• Cleo ☭@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    Like someone here in the commercial said, today the labour is to much diverse and there probably couldny be just a few symbols. I Just fucking love so much the red star, it’s very iconic but also simple. Idk thou

  • Cowbee [he/they]@lemmy.ml
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    8 months ago

    The same, honestly. These jobs never went away, they were just shifted out of the imperial core to the periphery.

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    8 months ago

    It didn’t symbolise that. It symbolises the unity between the industrial proletariat and the peasantry. It’s not about different proletarian occupations; it’s about a class alliance between two working classes.

    The peasantry doesn’t exist anymore in most parts of the world, but imo most people understand the hammer and sickle to symbolise communism anyway so it still works.

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      8 months ago

      Can’t believe I missed that in the title, yea, peasantry aren’t proletarian but instead they are their own class.

  • certified sinonist@lemmygrad.ml
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    8 months ago

    I think about this a lot. I genuinely think this is a really important question for the future. I’m not sure if we can reclaim the hammer and sickle in the eyes of the masses but the idea it represents of the two largest labor forces joining together will forever be important.

    • pineapple@lemmy.ml
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      8 months ago

      That is a very good point actually. Most western people look at the hammer and sickle and see evil. If we changed it to something else to make people feel more represented and avoid peoples gut reaction then it would really improve things.

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        8 months ago

        I disagree. I don’t think the symbol is tainted, but the core idea behind it, because of the red scare propaganda. Once people realise what the new symbol stands for, they’ll dislike it just as much, if not more so because they feel ‘tricked’.

        We have to reform the good name of communism instead, rather than throw it out wholesale.

  • RedLink@lemmygrad.ml
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    8 months ago

    As an artist I’d love to see suggestions in this thread. The specific recommendations might be different country to country or smaller districts. Something thats difficult for the US is that a lotta people are doing jobs related to tech and there’s not really a single unifying symbol for this. Hammer and sickle to represent farming and manufacturing is possible, and I believe adding a brush branches out to a wider movement.

    But finding symbols to speak to the workers as a whole can be difficult with how diverse it all is. Theres so many hyper specialized machines and tools.

    When making Icons before I’ve used my states iconography and Black panthers, and queer symbols like the pink triangle. This is extremely important and a good symbol will speak to the audiences you want and pull dedicated people into the movement.

    It might be necessary to focus on smaller regions within the US and Unite those before creating broader movements. (OFC whichever is in the best interests of the end goal of revolution at that time.) I can only speak to the US however

  • Pirat@lemmy.org
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    8 months ago

    a manual particle collector (broom) and a manual particle shifter (shovel).

  • EveryMuffinIsNowEncrypted@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    8 months ago

    Definitely just the hammer & sickle. It still very much applies.

    Alternatively, though this is not strictly Communism but Socialism, I really like the common logo used for Democratic Socialism, the Fist and Rose!

    I also really like the logo of the Democratic Socialists of America!