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Just don’t use it. It’s that simple
I mean if they break the law there should be some consequences.
Tired of waiting for consequences that show no sign of happening as yet. Best thing to do until such things come to pass would be to boycott the platform.
I want it banned regardless :D
i wish this was worldwide
I think all USA/Israel social media application must be banned.
What is a Israel sozial media application?
American ones it seems like. American politicians sure love Israel for some reason.
All USA social media indirectly product of Israel .
I’d rather not see a great firewall of Europe.
I’d be happy to see them banned from doing business here though. Hit them where it hurts, their money.
Yes, I wish they would ban Tesla cars in Europe. That would be amazing.
There are an outrageous amount of Tesla vehicles in Lisbon. But there are some beautiful Chinese brands that are now undercutting them. With I think Forthing as a direct competitor.
Yes, it is unfortunately becoming increasingly clear that even in the EU, billionaires and their companies are above the law. The legal situation should be clear here and there should be consequences - but there apparently aren’t any.
Unfortunately, this applies not only to Twitter, but to most US tech giants in particular, to meta, for example. I have already stopped counting the massive violations of the GDPR that meta and others are constantly committing, because nothing happens anyway. If anything, the fines are so low that violating the law brings these companies far more revenue than it costs them.
So unfortunately, the same major issue that brought the US to the brink of a straight up dictatorship also applies in Europe: even the most blatant violations of the law have no serious consequences for the richest of the rich – and that is why billionaires are becoming more and more powerful.
The situation may be better in the EU for now than in the US, whose legal system obviously no longer even maintains the appearance of fairness, but even in the EU, the enforcement of the law is miles away from anything that could even remotely be called justice.
The reason seems to me to be the same as in the US: concentration of power in a tiny billionaire class that asserts its influence through corruption.
I think that if things continue like this, and I see no indicators that they will not, it will not be long before even the appearance of justice is abandoned in the EU as well.
Nearly half? Sheesh.
Maybe it’s because most Europeans don’t have a strong opinion about X. I really don’t think it’s quite as popular here as in the USA. Which is also the reason many don’t know how unhinged the current admin is.
To be fair, the only time I used Twitter was in a data science course that required to capture some data from the “firehose” (unsorted and unfiltered realtime stream of tweets). Other than that I never cared for it. Wouldn’t affect me at all if they ban it, so it’s easy to be in favor of such a ban.
A lot of politicians and governments still use it as an official platform. I wish they would stop doing that and giving it any sort of legitimacy.
That was always a bad idea and feeds my mild Cassandra complex.
No government should be relying on private platforms like that.
It should’ve been banned long ago. It’s insanity that, it is not banned yet. There’s so much illegal content through Grok and so many hatred on X.
I want them banned even if they aren’t. Twitter is a shithole and has only made things worse since Elon has taken over. If people aren’t gonna move off it because it’s a Nazi shithole then force them to move off.
How about just banning it for the good of humanity?
Weird to be that low for “continues to break the law.”
They’ll immediately ban “from the river to the sea” and prosecute everyone who says/displays it. but a multinational corporation is just allowed to break the law and maybe the politicians will at some point allowed them to face the law.
Uh. You do understand that this law breaking includes not cracking down hard enough on illegal content? Like that Hamas slogan?
I’m expressing how much their laws are bullshit. they are draconically applied on people protesting a genocide. while the question of “should the law be applied to corporations” is left open as a debatable topic.
Laws are made to protect the ingroup and bind the outgroup.
and even though it was an example of their hypocrisy and not the point of the argument I’ll say it regardless
From the river to the sea Palestine will be free
From the sea to the river Palestine will live forever
Uh. So… Prosecuting bad. Not prosecuting those who do not cooperate with the prosecutors also bad because hypocrisy.
Do you think maybe some laws can be bad and others good and that encouraging enforcement of a good law doesn’t mean encouraging enforcement of the bad ones?
my point is: Why when it comes to the public, laws are enforced to the letter, but for corporations, the question of “should the law apply” is a public debate instead of a “Duh. of course”?
Yeah. I understand what you mean. That is simply not true. Ok, teachable moment.
In Germany, that slogan is considered a Hamas slogan. Hamas has been classified as an extremist organization. That means that using its slogans and symbols is illegal under the same laws that make Nazi slogans and symbols illegal. That’s the hate speech and illegal content that online platforms are supposed to remove.
Failing to crack down on hate speech is one of the biggest complaints against X. If you demand that authorities to enforce EU platform laws harder, then what happens is that this slogan is suppressed harder. You understand?
i don’t think you get the point
I think you are just not making any sense.
I would like to know the percentage between if they break the law and regardless if they break the law
And there is our main argument against ChatControl.
What is?
ChatControl is pushed with the excuse of CSAM. If that was a true concern of the proponents, we would have a push towards stronger and faster enforcement of the DMA and in particular of X. Instead, nothing.
I see. I have some doubts about the motivation of these people, too. But regulators are going after X.
Consider that the chatcontrol equivalent would be going after services that don’t spy enough on their users.
ChatControl would be going after all messages of all users by default. And CSAM is the excuse.
People know you can just not use it, right?
Sure, but I don’t really want to share a reality with people who do.
It’s making them not right.
It’s not just about not using it, it’s about punishing a company breaking the law, profiting from it, and feeding an authoritarian regime.
I mean, I’m aware I can just not murder people, but I still want murdering people to be banned. (Admittedly this is a false equivalence but the point stands)
This is exactly why I’m against any regulation of any kind. Its up to the consumer to make those choices. Say if a baby food company put deadly amounts of arsenic in their food. That’s those dead babies fault for not exercising their power as consumers. A bank steals all the money the customers put in? Shouldn’t have picked that bank, tough luck. Buy life saving medicine from a pharmaceutical company and they send you sugar pills? Your fault.
Companies don’t commit crimes and are never liable for them. Its on the people who choose to use them. Couldn’t agree with you more. Well said.
I’ve been online to much today I took your comment at face value at first 😅
Not really if everyone else uses it and you need information from them
Nearly half is less than 50% democracy therefore says it stays. Seems pretty clear cut to me.
