Shouldn’t this be on the shitpost community??
I bet you were looking forward to ridiculing the half person of that 34.5 people.
Not to brag, but I’m in the top 100% of IQ scores.
I suspect my brother is smarter than I am.
I tested very highly. I can’t remember what the number was. Triple digits at least. It impressed people. I was placed in advanced classes and did very well in school, but I also got bullied and didn’t get girls.
My brother tested very low. People told him he was smarter than that. He said, “prove it.” He attended normal classes, had more friends, and had plenty of girlfriends.
Neither of us attended university. We both work for a living and do alright.
I think he threw his test. So who’s smarter?
Also to be clear: I don’t put much stock in the test itself. We were tested in elementary school. It’s been almost 40 years, so I don’t remember much. Not all students were tested. We were tested at my elementary school, but I don’t remember if it was the office or a classroom or even the library or cafeteria. We were also tested at different ages — I’m 3 years older. So I can’t even say it was a real IQ test. Some kind of aptitude or placement test though. But after, they all said I was some kind of genius. But I never felt like they proved I was any smarter than anyone, just singled out to excel, and for what?
IQ is barely good enough for a (skewed) rough estimate and only usable up to ±50% deviation. Exactly like BMI.
Well, I score very high on both!
That’s nice.
Triple digits isn’t a brag. It just means above average.
I wanted to post this so I’ll reply to you to do it. hehe: Triple digits includes “100” which is strictly average, so it can absolutely just mean average. :) Which doesn’t go against your point, like I said, I just wanted to throw that into the mix and you were the convenient target :)
they don’t put kids in the smartypants classes for 100 iq
My point is, even if I was in the top 1%, it’s not like I’m working at NASA or anything. I’m just a regular guy. So I don’t think the test was worth shit. If it was even an IQ test, official or otherwise.
Your brother got all of the benefits of being smart with none of the burnout or unrealised potential complex
I want to believe.
IQ tests are bullshit.
Online IQ tests are extra extra bullshit.
They’re not bullshit - you just don’t like them or understand what they actually measure.
It’s a highly studied field with tests that produce repeatable results that correlate strongly with certain real-life success metrics.
Agreed. Doing well on any test just proves that you’re good at taking a test. Intelligence is measured by far many variables then test taking. Nevermind that test scores can be raised by coaching and practice. If the IQ test were a true indicator of intellect the score would be fixed each and every time it is taken regardless of outside influences.
People with actual higher scores don’t need it to be explained, and people with lower scores don’t want it to be explained.
It is not what you have, but what you do with it.
I remember doing the Mensa free test for shits and giggles in high school. Basically just gave you a “129+” estimated score and told you they couldnt “estimate higher” due to it not being a “complete test” and then wanted your to book an in-person IQ test for +100€. I just found it so funny how much snob copium Mensa is, like theres no way I have 129+ IQ. If I would care enough to find out i wouldnt pay 100€ either. At best IQ is an irrelevant metric at worst its used by terrible people who think IQ is an all-encompassing intelligence metric to boast about how allegedly smart they are.
Paying for an IQ test is a test in itself. If you pay that much to get a number you can’t be that smart.
Also the actual “bell curve” is a lot more top heavy, and IQ is for peasants cosplaying as snobs.
everyone has something that they are absolutely brilliant about. that they understand and know. IQ tests just test for your ability in taking tests.
We had an IQ test as part of the performance review process in a company I worked in. It did not have any effect on the review, it was just there. The dudes with IQ above 120 were insufferable to work with. The dudes with IQ below 85 were insufferable to work with. Both managed to do about the same amount of work. The dudes who scored between 100-110 were a pleasure to work with, and practically carried the other two groups.
Like an actual general intelligence test or a cognitive ability test? Neither should be used in a performance context though so that’s wild. Cognitive ability testing should only be used for selection not for performance the fuck.
Ignoring that IQ is a grift and a lie: Sitting within a standard deviation of average intelligence is NOT a bad thing. If intelligence really could be measured it would mean you’re capable of doing anything about as well as anyone else.
Lol fantastic shitpost
Even better if it’s genuine
Friends:
hisses though teeth
“That’s good, buddy, good for you!”
IQ is just one factor of intelligence, and not even the most important one. And even so, 94 is only just below average, it’s not so bad.
Excuse me, it’s a quotient not a factor.
it’s neither bad nor good, it’s just a relative score. If everyone except you was einstein then your IQ would be 1, but that doesn’t magically make you dumber than you are now.
Basically everyone is constantly getting smarter (due to stuff like education and better access to food), so you can’t even compare IQ scores over time
Technically not even below! The average is 85-115 IQ.
Yeah, and if you’re below 85 you automatically qualify for a job in the current government of the United States. Vice president or something…
Can we please do this without the ableism? The US government is bad because the people are evil, not because they are stupid. Even if ostensibly they are both.
Good point. Thanks. I’m gonna self-delete this and take it as an invitiation to think about ableism.
You can say that, but it doesn’t make it true. I don’t think most of them are evil, and given their position they’re probably above average intelligence as well.
True evil is when causing harm (or suffering) is not merely a means to an end, but the end itself - the person derives pleasure or satisfaction from the act of harming others, independent of any larger goal. They don’t rationalize it as “necessary” or “for the greater good.” The suffering is the point.
Isn’t the average 100 by design?
And also by definition of what an average is?
It’s not an exact science for starters so a +/- 5 points seems a likely margin, but I guess its just inside one “deviation”. 125 would be at +1 and so on (just making example numbers here).
Which is fucking pointless to point out because 80% falls into that 15 point deviation.
If you want true average, a 5-6 point deviation is more useful. Especially given the vast difference between someone with an IQ of 86 and the IQ of 114 - former will be failing most of their classes whereas latter will be excelling in most (not accounting for other personality traits that affect scholarly results, of course).
No, ~68,3% fall into that deviation.
Given that tests only approximate the real value and that there are errors and biases, being too exact wouldn’t serve you any function.
But I think you are right that a deviation of 30 from under to upper limit of average IQ is pretty big.
Just curious, what’s the most important one?
I put more points into my Wisdom stat.
A thorough test made up of several tests can give a full scale IQ with component scores. Big gaps in the scores, like between verbal intelligence and working memory or processing speed, even helps us detect ADHD.
I feel like I need high processing speed more than anything else when playing competitive video games.
Sexiness
Rizz
Humans are social animals. If you can’t rizz your bosses to promote you and your coworkers to help you, then you’re stuck and alone.
I’d say EQ (emotional) is more useful on a daily basis
My only weakness! (Well also bright lights, rough textures, certain sounds…)
Maybe, but I don’t know if that’s a good thing. Social intelligence is how CEOs and other charlatans get disproportionate success in society, and if all we had was social intelligence humanity would be nothing but smooth-talking cavemen.
People often say that psychopaths act like they do because they don’t know how it makes people feel but the opposite is actually true - they know exactly how other people feel which is why they’re so good at manipulating them. They simply just don’t feel bad about taking advantage of that.
If we all had emotional intelligence, we’d be good at seeing through the shit of smooth-talking cavemen.
We almost all have, but those without (at least those with ego problems) hone their skills their entire life to fool everyone else. IMO.
Good point.
There is scientific evidence for the existence of emotional intelligence, but it not yet clearly defined nor easily measured.
It mainly exists as a tool for consultants to extract fees from corporate clients.
What you think the site should be like “Congratulations, you’re a retard”
Please, can we move away from the “R” word.
I went on a semi-rant about IQ in another top level post, but now it’s time to go on a rant about the R word.
I’ve worked with adults with developmental and cognitive disabilities. I was a supported living coach for a while, and also volunteered some at an adult day training school where my wife taught.
The school in particular taught daily living skills, but also art. The students were encouraged to paint, sing, write. They had a theatre program - which is where I mostly volunteered, running sound for some shows and helping backstage at others.
Before I started working with them, I was a bit intimidated and scared by them. I personally have a high IQ[1], so the concept of people living with a low IQ kinda scared me a little. What do they live for? How do they live? How do they survive with, like, limited thoughts or whatever? I had no clue.
Then I got to meet the community at the day school and I quickly realized… they’re human, like you and me. Of course they are. But I didn’t know. I learned that they have needs and wants, like all humans; friendships and gossip and enjoying some days and not enjoying other days. You know, seriously, like the rest of us.
One of the classes my wife taught was theatre, and she taught her class Shakespeare (among other things). When I say that her students understood Shakespeare, I mean they could explain what happened in the plays they covered. What I began to realize was that the main problem these folks faced was that they learned more slowly. Not that they couldn’t learn.
Also, as an aside: While it was mostly amazing getting to hang out and work with these folks that tended to be much happier than other groups of people I’ve dealt with, that is also a negative stereotype, expressed specifically in the stereotype that many people with Down’s syndrome are always happy. Well, like many steretypes, there is some truth there, but everybody has shitty days, and not only that, but everyone has their own personality. Just because you see happy people with Down’s in media… it ain’t all like that. But overall, there is some truth there.
But the main point of my post, after hopefully helping to humanize them to you and anyone reading, is to end with this: They know the “R” word. They hear it. They hear it used against and about them. And even when it’s not, they know the word and that they are its origin. When that word is used, you’re not just calling something “stupid”, you are referencing a whole group of people that absolutely do not deserve it.
As a final note, to anyone who wants to argue about how language changes and how words get retired and if we retire this word another will come along: First of all, I don’t believe you in this case. In the past 10-15 years, the word has fallen off in use, and the words that replaced it weren’t offensive in the same way. But I’ve had to start speaking out about it again because it’s starting to come back in the past 2-3 years or so, and I’d rather see it permanently quashed. Also, even if another word did come along that was offensive, THAT DOESN’T EXCUSE USING THIS WORD RIGHT NOW WHICH IS OFFENSIVE RIGHT NOW.
I’m not telling anyone what to do. You and everyone have the right to use the language you wish to. I and others have the right to judge people for the language they use, though. So I hope you and others that use the word will consider removing it from your vocabulary.
I did. Took me a while, but it was worth it.
I’m no saint. I lose my temper and rant against those I feel are supporting fascism, for example, far more than I should. So I’m not trying to say I’m better than anyone. I’m just humbly requesting that people who use that word reconsider doing so, as it makes the world a slightly better place. <3
Which is worth extremely little, q.v. my other rant in this thread ↩︎
to anyone who wants to argue about how language changes and how words get retired and if we retire this word another will come along: First of all, I don’t believe you in this case. In the past 10-15 years, the word has fallen off in use, and the words that replaced it weren’t offensive in the same way.
I don’t understand why you think this argument, which I’ve heard described as the Euphemism Treadmill, doesn’t apply to this word. Retard is used to describe the slowing of something, like fire, without any insult to people. It’s just a word. As you point out, that word can be, and is, used as an insult which causes harm. However, any word can do that. Take “slow”, which I used above as an example. If it became the new slang insult for people of below average intelligence would you ask that people stop using it? It sounds silly to think of today, but that’s just because we aren’t used to hearing it that way. There’s nothing stopping a new word from taking the place of an old one, and retarded is not special. I guarantee you if people used it to laugh at others or said it sharply it would become just as hurtful.
We used to call people without jobs or shelter bums, then homeless, then housless, now temporarily unhoused. Once everyone is saying temporarily unhoused what will the next word be?
We’re absolutely in agreement that slower people are people too and deserve to be treated with respect. However, the fact that intelligence is a sought after trait that you are ridiculed for not having is the root of the problem, not the word used, and I don’t think this word has some special ability to get around the euphemism treadmill.
Retard is used to describe the slowing
That word, the verb, is pronounced “ree-TARD”. The “R” word is “REE-tard”.
In the same way that “negro” (NEH-gro) in some languages means black and is perfectly fine, and the same way that Niger (american “NIE-jur” or original “nee-ZHER” is also fine.
I already made my argument and explicitely said I would not debate, but I will simply reiterate: I don’t care about words that USED to be offensive or words that MIGHT ONE DAY be offensive, the “R” word is offensive NOW.
Never go full retard.
I humbly request that you see one of my other comments in this thread and reconsider the use of the “R” word. I won’t repeat it here so I don’t “spam up” the thread.
I agree with your stance on the other comment (really appreciate you taking the time to write the post), however since this one in particular is a direct quote from a movie I think its grey enough to let slide.
What’s up with the word making a comeback tho? Rise of fascism in general and all the sludge it raises?
The word is making a comeback because people are fucking retarded.
What’s up with the word making a comeback tho?
Maybe people are just realizing that magic words don’t actually exist. There are infinite ways to be an asshole in the world without ever uttering a forbidden phrase.
Sorry
No apology required - at least not to me. But thank you <3
Yeah, no. This word was attacked by a monied campaign and it is 100% not a problem.
The webpage can shoot fireworks and confetti to help deliver the news.
Maybe it should just say “this means your intelligence is below average”. I genuinely think someone with <80 IQ would have a very low chance of understanding the text as presented in the screenshot.
Stupid people are people with human rights too, and they should be considered with empathy when building a society. That should be particularly obvious to a site that performs IQ tests. For every person with an IQ above 100, there’s a person below.
The thing is, people with low IQ and stupid people are two different groups. My IQ was once tested over 140, and I have done, and still sometimes do, some pretty stupid stuff. I can also be quite dense.
It measures you information processing capacity - not wisdom. High IQ people quite famously aren’t always the nicest ones to be around.
I didn’t just use charisma as a dump stat… wisdom too!
Just took a test out of curiosity, but the result screen is much different.
Disclaimer: Don’t take too much of the score for granted, the test isn’t that comprehensive, and just by knowing basic math and intermediate logic you may reach a similar score.
Did you really pay them? I just did the test and now it’s asking for 2€
I’m wondering the same.
A “real” IQ test also scores you on different types of skills, or at least the one I was given to take did. I ended up above average on things such as math and logic skills while scoring below average on language skills, which, knowing me sounds about right.
I have always wondered why language skills are in an IQ test. If someone speaks 1 language he’ll be better off than someone speaking 3 as the test is only in one language?
Yeah, there was nothing about language in it, but I took it anyway just for the sake of it.
Wish I could take an official one, purely out of curiosity.
