Footage of Vance during the negotiations:
This made me go look it up out of curiosity, and apparently Star Wars kid is 38, Vance is 41. Close enough.
That’s wild and kind of makes me want to see him do “Star Wars middle age man.”
Dude has to get up for work tomorrow, he doesn’t need the shoulder and back pain just for your entertainment.
Source: similar age, sore shoulder from randomly sleeping on it “odd”
But maybe if somebody would place a nice stick or broom near him he couldn’t resist.
Ha, that’s fair and very considerate of you!
I miss the days when the scariest part about sleep was just nightmares…
he was busy surveying the persian couches in iran.
Star Wars Kid deserves better than to be compared to the VP
Star Wars Kid was so ahead of his time. Nowadays, that video would just be the first in a series called “can I train to be a Jedi in 30 days using only household objects?”
It’s fascinating how they were able to blockade something in 3d space with something that looked a lot like a 2d structure. Must be some Liu Cixin kind of shit going on there.
I don’t think they have the concept of orbits in Star Wars. Damaged ships just happen to fall into planets all the time.
They usually come out of hyperspace just above the planet so they won’t have orbital velocity.
Why not?
The polarity of the Khyber crystals or something.
I mean it really looks like they exit at a speed of some sort and the rest is imagination, usually when a science hole is found in the space opera it is pretty huge
A lot of sci-fi suffers from space ships hanging in the air in exactly the way that bricks don’t. Trek does it too.
It exists but isn’t really shown for the same reason reasonable battle tactics are a super power in Warhammer 40k, rule of cool.
It still doesn’t explain WHY the blockade was happening. The horrible forced love scenes that made no sense. “I’m a senator!” As well as rolling around a hill of flowers. Not to mention the rest of all of the prequels and dealing with medichlorions as a medical fact rather than the mythos of force sensitive beings having measured for power. I still enjoy them, no doubt. But they got issues.
The OT was also corny. People who pick apart details like this are thinking too hard.
Yes. The entirety of all filmmakers think too hard about their craft…
I mean… yeah?
You are just jealous that you never rolled down a hill of flowers
Hill of sand just ain’t the same
The blockade was happening because Palpatine and Plagueis arranged it. The trade federation said they wanted a better trade deal, but were really there to avoid being killed by the sith (motivation) and to militarily take over the planet (goal given to them by the sith). They likely also had an expectation that they’d get a better deal, which might have been better prices, reduced tarrifs, setting their own tarrifs, exclusivity/monopoly, or anything that could be used to increase their wealth. The specifics weren’t important to the overall plot, main point was that they were attempting to ecnomically dominate Naboo at first and then were financially backing one side of the clone wars and their main motivation was because the sith would kill them if they didn’t (which was their fate in the end even though they did because they were always just tools).
The planet was picked because it was Palpatine’s home planet and he was the senator; it was a false flag attack intended to garnish sympathy that he would leverage for more political power.
Yes. These are all true facts that I have come to realize over several rewatches. I am not so sure it was that apparent in the first watch. And that’s where I take issue with the writing. Granted I still love the franchise. Great world building. Lots of fond memories. But I think the story could take a few things out and tweak some presentation and it would have been epic.
Shockingly similar to real life as well.
An established, well-rooted but also horrobly compromised superpower is made to act as an aggressor in order to advance an elite minority lest they either kill or scandalise said superpowers leadership.
No rhyme nor reason, just pure machination and suffering.
The new trilogy had similar issues. People complain about how bad the middle one was - and it was pretty bad - but at least it was setting things up for a more interesting, more complex plotline, like when the one dude was talking about how the same corporations making weapons for the rebels were also manufacturing for the Empire.
And then JJ Abrams took the reins again and… somehow… emperor palpatine returned.
I have a hot take and think that 8 is the second best film of the 9. And that is as a film. How he told the stories and the character development. I also loved how Luke finished off Kylo Ren. But I know no one agrees with me on it. So don’t shoot me.
Except that was all wrong. THE empire had its own dedicated ship manufacturers … for instance, Sienar Systems in its various forms made TIE fighters for the empire and first order. That’s it. They made Imperial ships.
Ruin Johnson just didn’t check lore.
Politics in film can be interesting when it is executed well. The problem with the prequels wasn’t necessarily the ideas, but the execution was just awful.
speaking of which, do you guys know of any good fan edit that fixes the bad execution for the prequels?
Kind of impossible to fix IMO. The editing and pacing isn’t particularly egregious. The direction, the dialogue, the stilted acting, and the overuse of CGI are the main problems, and short of cutting out the worst offenders, you can’t change that.
Yeah. The elements were there.
I mean - the scene where Anakin turns on Windu and joins Palpatine was executed terribly, but the bones of the scene were solid. Windu, the head of the “enlightened” Jedi order, was about to kill a defenseless enemy out of fear.
Anakin had never been trusted by the Council, but when he decided to show faith in them, the Council betrayed him by being no different than the Sith.
But the execution was terrible and it made the whole thing feel rushed and out of left field.
that’s sad. I hope I this doesn’t come out as heresy to any Star Wars fans (I mean, I am one, but mostly for the games and the TV series) but I really wish they could redo at the least the prequels.
Like, I don’t know, maybe redo Episode I,2,3 in the style of the Clone Wars show, give a season with 6 episodes for each movie and really expand the idea better on them. Maybe I am the only weirdo who would like that lol
I really wish they could redo at the least the prequels
Disney:
Didn’t somebody make a cut where they just clean took out jar jar?
Probably, but Jar Jar was the least of that trilogies problems.
the prequels politics were really interesting. it was most things else about them that sucked
Love that they went deeper into the politics in the prequels. Wish the trade route blockade bit had been more fleshed out.
I want to see more Star Wars plotlines that aren’t JUST about the heroes. Of course I haven’t seen the more recent shows or played too many of the games. I think S1 or S2 of The Mandalorian is the newest thing I’ve seen. Haven’t had the time to keep up and maybe there’s lovely new Star Wars content that’s perfect for me and I just haven’t seen it yet.
I’d really love to see something in the lower levels of Coruscant. Like the cancelled game Star Wars 1313. I’d love to know more about the politics of different eras.
There’s an interesting universe, interesting planets, interesting species and people. But most stories are about a select few heroes and villains (thankfully more than just the Skywalker and Palpatine lineages now). There’s so much more that could be done without being repetitive. It’s like a money printing machine that they’re just not using.
You would like Andor if you haven’t tried it already.
I have not, but I’ve heard good things. I’ll see about adding it to my server.
It’s about the inner works of the start of the rebellion, there are “heroes” yes, but it very down to earth and refreshing. One of top points of the series after Rogue One.
Nope, I’ll never get those 20 minutes back from the senate scene
Come on man, “Meesa call for a vote of no confidence” is the height of political drama. Sorkin and Penn Warren got nothin on Jar Jar.
He’s still on the hook for the special editions which were a worse crime than any of the prequels
I’d take Obi-Wan vs. Anakin over Jedi Rocks any day
Got a little to far into the K pile one new years and spent multiple hours trying to figure out if I was hallucinating or watching the remastered versions. I’m still not sure
There was a star wars movie with this in the plotline at some point? He lost me after New Hope, and upon re-watching New Hope I realize that was because I got older than 7.
not liking something is the opposite of a personality. grow up.
and for your question: the phantom menace
So edgy. Almost as edgy as a fucking sphere. Piss off.
About as edgy as the Death Star if you count that trench as an edge.
Thats at least 4 more edges then this emo has
You really get that triggered that I continued the joke that is in the meme in the Political Memes community?
And you call me edgy?
Someone has a different opinion and that is “edgy” to you? You kissing Lucas ass for a reason?
I really did like it when it came out, and then it was downhill from there. Re-watching as an adult, does not hold up well.
It’s not the opinion that’s edgy, it’s the context. Imagine you’re at a casual gathering and someone made this joke and everyone started joking about star wars.
Does it help the conversation or anyone’s enjoyment to jump in with a “oh, I didn’t like those at all. They’re pretty dumb.” ?
Star Wars fans are the worst.
Context? Seriously?
I didn’t reply to any comment, I commented on the post, which is in Political Memes.
If this were a Star Wars community it would be inappropriate, but here?
Joke to me is Lucas actually got one thing right. Finally. Couldn’t write dialog to save his life, which is why his wife did it.
I didn’t reply to any comment, I commented on the post, which is in Political Memes.
Yes, it’s a star wars joke in political memes.
And while everyone else is joking around, having a good time you decided that a worthwhile contribution would be to announce that you don’t like Star Wars because you aren’t a child?
Maybe you really don’t get social cues. Or you’ve decided to be unpleasant for no reason. I dunno, it seems like you came in, wanted to pick a fight and then whine when people point it out. It’s weird way to decide to be and more than a little sad, especially for a grown ass adult.
you know what’s fun? i’ve spent the last sixteen years slowly taking in every star wars property with my wife. because she loves star wars and i love science fiction. the stuff for adults, the stuff for kids, the
wookiee pornchristmas special, all of it. why? because cinema doesn’t have to just be for smelling your own farts. it can be for enjoying and analyzing.we’re excited for the maul series coming out, just because we love maul and the actor who plays him. we have high hopes!
Its amusing that people need to defend star wars in a political meme community. Its a joke on a joke. A hat on a hat.
Like whatever you want, you guys take it way too seriously.
Lucas never was leftist enough to write a good political driven plot as much as he could a rebel based one. He just had too much liberal in him to do it justice.
too much liberal i see in you, yeeess, the liberal side of the force is strong in you
The man is a billionaire now.
exactly. too liberal
I also don’t want it to happen and I want it to end and I want to get off this wild ride. Bit like Ep1.
I want to see Iranian Jedi negotiators…
Hopefully this war will be limited to droids vs clones
But how would that kill innocent people?
Wouldn’t the clones be innocent people?
Now you have two corner stones of future politics: are clones people? Do droids have personhood and do they have rights?
Also, the theme of unforeseen consequences of individualism and elitism have on a person is spot on for Lucas. Yeah, individualism can be good, especially as someone who came from a collectivist culture where conformity is being upheld, but I have to admit it killed community. It’s one reason for the male loneliness epidemic, which is the low key theme of Star War prequels and how Anakin became Darth Vader. This is alongside with toxic masculinity on keeping a stiff upper lip, and not being attached to emotions including love. The blind rationality of elites dismisses emotion, even though the latter is just as real as facts. Corruption also drives populism and the yearning for dictators. George Lucas presented these interesting ideas and themes, but have done so in such an awkward way on the prequels. I think the amazing action scenes are what lifted and saved the prequel series rather than the heavy themes.
Credit where credit is due. I feel such themes will always be awkward because at the end of the day, they are so fundamental to the human experience that you will always upset someone without even trying when you bring them up.
You have people who hate individualism because they grew up neglected even in their own homes and isolated from any sense of community and family.
You have people who hate collectivism because they were pressured since youth to perform or conform to a specific route.
Both extremes are always wrong, but its important to address by reframing the narrative.
That, for me, has always been the strongpoint of fiction and entertainment.
If you don’t mind some spoilers for Jedi: Survivor
Tap for spoiler
Cal decides “The Jedi fucked things up, I’m not beholden to their rules” and starts a relationship in that game. It feels nice
Wait, so it was always Trade Wars?
🔫🧑🚀 Always has been.
The theatrical 35mm scan versions of the prequels floating around on the internet are really cool if you’re a fan. Not quite as polished as the 4k77 or Despecialized stuff, but still super neat to watch if you saw the prequels in theaters.
Where can I find them?
