What is the point of a paid service with ads? Its just really odd, like who has money for Netflix and whatever shit they are advertising? And everyone will resent these added ads on this platform, so why pay Netflix to make people hate your product.
What is the point of a paid service with ads?
Cable got away with it until it didn’t.
Yeah and where is it now? Oh yeah in obscurity.
Specifically because we could binge watch without ads changing the vibe OR THE VOLUME
Cable was a shitty service. It was expensive, you had to subscribe to a bunch of shit you didn’t want for just a few programs you did, and was full of ads. People dropped cable for streaming because it was cheaper, centralized, and didn’t have ads.
Now that cable is essentially dead, streaming is bringing back the high prices and the ads, and now you have to sign up for a bunch of shit you don’t want for the few programs you do.
What’s the point? They know customers are full of piss and wind, threatening blue murder while doing absolutely nothing beyond jaw flapping. (Same with gamers).
Amazon’s service model, for example, is to twiddle the knobs to just under the point where the majority ragequit: the sweet spot of maximum profit right now. Everyone else is copying it.
And the sweet spot moves - probably like boiling a frog. A major player does something many hate, but not everyone/enough and those people live with it. Then it becomes the new normal. Twiddle the knob. Rinse and repeat.
I canceled my Netflix when they did the account sharing shenanigans, and filled out the exit survey explaining why. I had only kept my Netflix because my parents watched it, then they made it so hard to add a family member addon account I said fuck it and canceled everything.
My parents signed up for their own account, so Netflix didn’t lose total count, but they lost the extra subscriber that was the whole point. I know I am an edge case in not just complaining while taking it, but there is always hope.
Amazon’s service model, for example, is to twiddle the knobs to just under the point where the majority ragequit
I mean, I get Amazon Prime via their shopping service whether I want it or not. And half of their “library” such that it exists is just links out to other paid premium services. Nevermind their Netflix-esque habit of cancelling or delaying popular shows while churning out lots of AI slop to fill in the gaps.
There’s no strong incentive to drop Prime Shipping (because it’s dirt cheap and I still do plenty of retail shopping on Amazon). But I find myself going to their TV / Movies selection less and less frequently. Occasionally just pirate the Amazon show I already have access to out of convenience.
Can’t say the same of Netflix, though. Cancelled that shit a few years ago. Barely anything left worth pirating from it anymore.
I kind of doubt prime is a good deal considering how many online store offer free shipping (with out a paid subscription!) and actually give you REAL arrival estimate dates.
I haven’t seen anyone doing a better job. Lots of hype around the new things, though.
They still offer an ad free plan
Oh boy! Let me guess its 2x the ad plan and like YouTube red will also have limited ads soon.
Do it!
The fact that they keep pushing the envelope with more and more ads and higher costs show that people are willing to go along with it. That is sad to think about
No one should be surprised, cable tv played out the same way. Got you hooked on content and then started shoving ads in so often they sped up credits or ran the credits under the commercial break to squeeze just a biiiiiit more out of you
Then they sped up the actual tv shows. It’s crazy, and they got away with it.
Goddamn, that’s ridiculous. I can’t say I seen that one myself, but I also haven’t really watched cable in like a decade. I wish I could be surprised or even consider the idea even remotely hyperbolic.
TBS were the biggest offenders. It’s only slightly sped up. I only noticed because they were airing reruns of something i had watched 1.2 billion times on dvd. Really fucks with the comedic pacing when they do that. But any amount sped up can make a 22 minute show air in 21:45 or even 21:30… One or two commercials more.
Netflix plan to bring even more ads to even more parts of it’s service…and I plan to continue not being a customer.
TBH it’s just for their ad tier.
Back in the day, the “ad tier” for shit was free and you only paid money to not have ads at all.
Back in my days they had no ad tier, and their prices were reasonable.
Damn, how old are you that you remember when TV didn’t have ads?
I don’t think they were talking about TV :)
But yeah, I used to export shows from my Tivo, decrypt them, run them through comskip, re-encode to divx them with handbrake and store them on cds :)
Most 30m shows had at least 7-8 minutes of commercials. Some cartoons had 2 shows in a 30m timeslot, commercials up to the 1m mark, 10m of show, commercial break to the next show, 6-7m of ads, ran up to 2-3 mins before the half our and had another commercial or three shove in the outro.
Now that cable has moved into a streaming online service not much room left for TiVo. Commercials will reign again.
Yeah, that makes my heart sad, but my tivo went out in the trash before 2010.
HDMI copy + comskip still exists, though.
You still pay money to have no ads at all 🙃
What’s an ad tier? Honest question, I never used any streaming service.
AFAIK a cheaper subscription, but it shows ads
Oh I see. And people still pay for it…
yarrrrrrrrrr
Morons… cutting off one’s nose to spite one’s face.
Morons or masters of revenue?
We all hate it, but for every one of us who will cancel there’s ten more who will just keep paying no matter how bad it gets.
Just takes one show and a lack of motivation to self host a solution, and these companies own every popular show and nearly the entire pipeline of creation.
Advertisements work so well everybody is trying to put them everywhere to make more money. It’s just that simple. Reddit is effectively full vertical video and photo content if you browse the site without logging in, because a few second video format is enough to slip in a quick ad without triggering people as much as a long format ad does, like infomercials of yore.
If we want the ads gone we need to regulate them away.
This really opens a new niche for people to help newbies setup self hosting.
Really itching to try that golden goose recipe.
The morons are the people willing to pay for ads. There is seemingly an endless supply of them because these kinds of subscriptions are very popular.
Hey ! Looks ! This thing it’s called jellyfin. It’s installed on something that’s called Truenas. It’s doing the same thing as netflix.
That’s just misinformation. I put some shows onto a Jellyfin instance and not a single one has disappeared. Not even an email about something being dropped soon. So that’s a core part of the Netflix experience you’re just not getting with Jellyfin.
Heck, it doesn’t even randomly force me to watch in 1080p or 720p despite being on the 4K plan and the show/movie being available in 4K. It’s like Jellyfin isn’t even trying.
The last drop in the bucket for me was when Jellyfin didn’t show any ads.
Maybe we should fork an Enshittyfin and add these vital features.
lmao that would make a good April fools bit
There’s also Emby and Plex.
Yeah, and Plex is also enshittifying. Fuck Plex. Go FOSS or go home.
Plex is pumping the gas on going down the drain faster than netflix, netflix just has a head start
I’m glad I unsubscribed to Netflix.
We’re paying for ads now. They’re double whammying users and we’re eating it up because everything’s just too expensive.
I don’t want to live in this society anymore…
There will be a subscription based cancellation fee before you leave.
The high seas are callin us boys! 🏴☠️
It would be hilarious if all those company killed by streaming platform suddenly crawl back up from hell and make physical rental widely available again.
all streaming services is hemorrhaging money just to push out slop content. the streaming services will disintegrate before they go back to physical media.
They’re one step away from dictating the content to be tailored to ads. Which is the natural end of running ads on your fucking service.
Apple TV+ remains the only streaming service I continue to pay for.
Enshittification is inevitable. The only variable is how long it takes.
Cancel your subscription & come over to the Dark Side! (I do recommend learning some basics beforehand though)
Yes that. Come to the dark side, we have 🍪
There is a great episode on the podcast “99% invisible” called “enshitification “ that precisely describes this action. Every device or ‘service’ will do this once they feel they have you locked in. The case study was about John Deere and Apple, but applies here too. Interesting that John Deere settled their case and had to pay $99 million.
Sounds like a really interesting concept that podcast invented
Surely they gave credit where credit is due.
Edit: indeed they did.
Do it!
New Netflix tier: Platinum
Platinum plan: 100% ads 24/7 400days out of the year.
Price: 50$50$…… per day.
