• Lasherz@lemmy.worldM
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    Don’t forget Jamaal Bowman and Cori Bush, very normal of her to leave out the black people she could have solidarity with.

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      Zionism is just another White Supremacist belief (just look up how Israel treats Black Jews from Ethiopia if you have any doubt that their beliefs of ethnic superiority are only for Whites).

      It makes total sense that the power elites of the country which was created by White European “colonists” genociding Indian Tribes and using Blacks as slaves, love all forms of White Supremacism.

      America, like Germany, shows that the ways of thinking about other human beings which were the foundation that supported the ideologies that did their most henious acts, never changed in the minds of the power elites, even when whatever ideology sitting on top of those foundations was blamed for those acts and swept away.

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        Anyone who has witnessed and experienced Israeli tourists knows how racist they are. Especially when they are in a non-western country.

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      Personally, I wouldn’t equate Judaism with Zionism, just as I wouldn’t equate Islam with Isis, or Christianity with the KKK.

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    I CANT WAIT for MY Tax Dollars to go to ME My Children! My Community! My FAMILY! Israel!

    -Republican Voters!

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    The antisemites are adopting the language and style of the anti-Zionist left to sane-wash their delusional beliefs. Don’t fall for it.

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    this kind of reminds me the Wrestlemania stuff i watched long ago, when the “good” vs the “evil” fighters would switch sides to make the show entertaining.

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      Well, that’s the playbook. Trump and McMahon were good friends. Trump is in the wrestling hall of fame for being one of the best there ever was (for the mic work being a heel). Wwe execs are running parts of the admin. Now there is a fight (same company) on the White House lawn. Knowing and understanding wrestling is important to understanding what is going on right now.

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    MTG’s track record on Israel is getting more and more reliably correct.

    But that track record starts and stops at Israel.

    She is still a cunt on almost every other issue.

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      MTG’s track record on Israel is getting more and more reliably correct.

      I don’t believe her for a second. She started off with space lasers and now that there’s something real and obvious she can blame on (((THEM))) she’s taking the opportunity. But even if AIPAC exploded tomorrow she’d go back to pushing racist conspiracy theories because she’s a massive racist piece of shit.

      Unless I missed it she said she got fooled by Dump (never mind that it took her a decade to realize that raping kids was bad, good job Marge, here’s your fucking cookie), not that she was wrong about her past racism.

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      MTG’s track record on Israel is getting more and more reliably correct.

      MTG is a brazen opportunistm who never believed half the populist shit she said. She will say whatever benefits her in the moment. If AIPAC knocked on her door tomorrow with enough funding, she would turn on a dime.

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    We’re going to owe this woman one hell of an apology if it turns out Israel does have a space based orphan melting laser system.

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      Space based lasers exist to do really accurate land surveys and even some hyperspectral stuff. There is almost defintely classified systems designed to map enemy infrastructure and detect things like tire tracks on the ground and other subtle disturbances that can indicate enemy activity.

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        I mean you’re probably right but “Jewish space lasers” is from MTG seeing some blue-ish light over a wildfire and saying it looked like space-laser arson

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          Oh. But that is even more viable then using lasers for surveys. She in her position in government could have seen some info on space based laser weapons and was trying to talk about it with public information. But that is like trying to reason backwards I certainly wasn’t trying to justify her to myself before when she was crazy.

          I think she is good for MAGAts tho so I like her like that I very much do.

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    If the Rightwing was in any way form or shape genuine, they would’ve long been calling Traitor any elected representative in their nation which openly represented a different nation.

    In countries like the US and the UK the Traitor ball is right there, in the open, ready to score for any Nationalist or even Patriot politician and has been there for more than a decade.

    It shows just how many of the flag-shaggers are in fact frauds (many Traitors themselves) rather than Nationalists or Patriots that they refuse to score such an obvious open.

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    Yeah well Marjorie, choose. Left or right, bullshit or reason & truth

    Stop flip flopping, it’s unnerving

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    I still don’t understand how saying Benjamin Mileikowsky is committing a genocide against the semitic people who have lived there for thousands of years is antisemitic…

    Dude speaks Hebrew and changed his last name to Netenyahu, that doesn’t change his DNA.

    He’s a Polish guy committing genocide, saying that is in no way antisemitism.

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      Dude speaks Hebrew and changed his last name to Netenyahu [sic]

      Point of order: Benjamin Netanyahu was born “Benjamin Netanyahu” in Tel Aviv in 1949. His father, Benzion (born 1910), changed his surname from Mileikowsky after migrating to Mandatory Palestine in the 1920s from Warsaw. Never at any point was Benzion’s son “Benjamin Mileikowsky”.

      If you’re going to make this into an argument, at least bother to get basic facts right.

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        Benzion

        Lmao, couldn’t have picked a more “European guy rolling a Jewish character” name (I know he was already Jewish, yet it still smacks of European exoticization. I don’t know what the word is for “Middle-eastifying”, if there is one). Add him to the party with Johnchrist and Alimuhammed.

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          Ol’ Benzion was born in 1910, when an Israeli state wasn’t even on the distant horizon, or much more than an imaginary “Promised Land” told of in the Old Testament, in a time when European Jews had spent centuries being persecuted from the Russian Empire to the UK, and were still being bounced from pillar to post with a lot of pogroms in between. Some got lucky, like the Rothschilds, but a lot more did not. Many were just killed for being Jewish. Many more were thrown out of cities and towns on the whim of racists.

          That was the reality for European Jews in 1910. Benzion’s parents simply named him after their own dream, at a time when that dream was as far off to them as waking up on the moon would have been. It would have been a way to keep a symbol of something they longed for – security and safety – in their environment in a time when there was precious little of that for them and their kind. Also, I don’t know if you’ve seen some of those old-timey names yourself, Zebedee, but Benzion is infinitely better than some others I’ve heard.

          I’m not Jewish and never have been, but even this goy knows that much about their history. Laugh your ass off all you want, but there’s more to the story.

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          I’m going to ask you to politely and with an open mind reread what you just quoted with the knowledge that Nathan Mileikowsky is Benjamin Netanyahu’s paternal grandfather and that Benzion Netanyahu (né Mileikowsky) is Benjamin Netanyahu’s father.

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    MTG is absolutely an antisemite and not someone we need to give more airtime too. Don’t care if she’s railing against people I don’t like.

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      What part of “the California wildfires were started by space lasers controlled by the Jews” was antiemetic? /s (because we’re are living in that kind of timeline)

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      She absolutely is, but in this instance she is taking about Israel and she is right.

      There’s that insistence of Israel to equate Israel as the same thing as Jews and then when someone criticizes policies of the country call it anti semitism.

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      I agree, but she’s still useful. We shouldn’t just give up that utility because she’s a horrible person. The other side is doing whatever they can to hold on to power, and we need to use whatever we can to stop them. Being too pure is how we let them take power in the first place.

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        she’s still useful. We shouldn’t just give up that utility because she’s a horrible person.

        Idk, that strategy can definitely backfire. I’m sure significant chunks of the GOP regretted backing the ‘useful idiot’ Trump once he grew too powerful to control. Maybe what we should do with their conspiracy theorists, grifters and propagandists, is starve them of attention?

        Being too pure is how we let them take power in the first place.

        Was it though? Was Biden too pure? Or are you saying that this all comes down to “PC culture”?

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          I really fear this angle. “we can use her” will effectively sane-wash this person and make her seem more reasonable to the less informed voters. I don’t want a MTG presidency.

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          Maybe what we should do with their conspiracy theorists, grifters and propagandists, is starve them of attention?

          That is not something we can control. That’s in them, not us.

          Was it though? Was Biden too pure? Or are you saying that this all comes down to “PC culture”?

          He was too “safe” for sure. The left rarely is willing to get it’s hands dirty. The right always is. They will use anything when it’s useful to them, no matter how dirty it may be. If there’s a tool that’s useful to us, we need to be willing to pick it up.

          Now, this all should be couched in language like “if the crazy space lazer lady understood this, you should be able to.” It should always be reminding them she’s insane, just that they must be too if she’s this far ahead of them.

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          Never mind the GOP. Hillary fucking Clinton spent millions of dollars promoting Trump in the run up to the 2016 election, because she wanted to make the Republicans look more radical and dangerous, and Trump was the most radical, dangerous candidate in the race.

          Thanks, Hillary. Good call.

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            I guess you’re referring to this?

            Hillary Clinton 2016 presidential campaign (Wikipedia):

            In a review of Clinton’s 32 general election TV ads, the Associated Press found that 24 of those ads show or mention Trump. The majority of those 24 ads feature raw footage of him rather than others opining on his words and actions.

            Interestingly, the title of the mentioned AP article is “Clinton’s ‘nasty’ Trump ads are mostly his own words” - it doesn’t criticize the campaign’s choice at all.

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        Useful how? Harris was wrong to spend so many resources trying to attract Republicans that she thought could be swayed away from Trump. She converted very few voters, and lost a lot of voters on the left. Why should we repeat that same mistake?

        Using MTG aligns you with an antisemite, and if it attracts anyone to your cause, it will be more antisemites.

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        There are a bunch of rich pedophiles with guns pointed at you just out of frame. Play nice for a with the with the crazy antisemite, use her, do not sit there prognosticating on how your farts smell and how much MTG and JK Rowling suck.

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            Can’t even do something so basic as flipping a useful idiot. The DNC is truely hopeless. Spineless, idealistic children pretending this is a fairytale that will work out if you stick to your ideals, work hard and believe in the power of friendship

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          No, do not

          Because Greene and other right-wing anti-Semites are using you much more than you’re using them.

          They want views, they want attention, they want a left-wing audience, because that gives them more people to recruit and more opportunities to spread their racist, bigoted, generally shitty views.

          And everybody’s attention span is finite. The more space the left gives to Greene, and Carlson, and other right-wing propagandists, the less space is available for actual Palestinians and their advocates to speak. We need to hear from the people most impacted by Israel’s actions, not from racists jumping on the anti-Israel bandwagon because they hate Jews.

          You are not immune to propaganda. Nobody is. So don’t platform right-wing propagandists. KTHX.

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      The very word anti-semite kind of makes you suspect, Semitic peoples include the Arabs that is truth. So you are like tooled?

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        That’s not what antisemite means, as you should well know:

        Antisemitism (Wikipedia):

        Antisemitism or Jew-hatred is hostility to, prejudice towards, or discrimination against Jews. A person who harbours it is called an antisemite.

        Languge doesn’t always make perfect logical sense.

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    Its also not hard to appear sensible when your subject is frothing at the mouth while committing genocide.

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      You said that, what about your/our supposed political champion president biden? How is he on the genocide?

      Or any of the fucking rest of them but the very few exceptions even guys I thought I liked like what’s his name from Oregon Ron Wyden turns out he’s a piece of shit too.

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          Oh Come now, this is not my first day on the internet. Half of everybody pretends like the Democrats are doing a good job cuz they think that’s the way to win.

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            It certainly seems like it’s your first day on the internet, or more like you’re really fucking dumb and very much nitpick your views of what is said online to fit your agenda. I have never seen a generally agreed “the dems are doing good” view online, it’s all about them just being the lesser evil. Biden was only voted on to not have the absolute shit stain that trump is as president.

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            Even when Biden was in power, no one liked Biden. He was the compromise Blue Dogs forced on us because the idea of someone who might actually try to do something productive for a change instead of talking in circles chilled them to the very bone.

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            Half of everybody? Which half? Is it a top half vs bottom half thing, or a left half vs right half thing? Ooo, or front half vs back half! Actually I think you’re right, my ass is a shitlib! Thank god my face is a commie so it balances out.

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        Do the two of you have some sort of longstanding beef, or are you just making a wild assumption about this commenter…?

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        Biden was forced down our throats, after stealing the nom from Bernie for the 2nd election in a row.

        A Bernie presidency would have had nothing to do with genocide. He would have guaranteed Trump got routed from politics before he had a chance to fill the swamp, had Bernie not been screwed by Hillary in 2016.

        Our champion was never allowed to lift off, because the Dems wouldn’t let him. Many of those Dems are proud AIPAC shills, so let that sink in.