Equal Rights == None of us fucks are allowed to drive.
Trains and trams and busses.
God I wish… It costs me $250 a month for my car and I own the fucking thing (if you include maintenance costs) so I drive to work twice a day, five times a week, and try to get errands done during my return commute. I might drive once or twice on the weekend, and there are about 4.4 weeks per month on average. That means I spend $5.28 every time I drive. That is WAY MORE THAN TRANSIT COSTS!! Especially if we spent the money we spend on roads and cars, instead on trams or busses
For reference I also pay for car centric stuff through my utility bills. 10-30% of my utilities might be effectively me paying for the externality of ripping up roads to replace buried infrastructure, that then needs to be paid for AGAIN using my taxes when potholes form over prior ground disturbance, and paid for AGAIN when the road fails early and needs to be ripped up to fix the subgrade.
Trains and trams and busses.
But who will drive them? 🤔
Honestly as a bicyclist I feel cars are way to powerful for regular people. Ebikes are great, fast and small
Driving is a privilege, not a right. Easy fix.
I’m gonna be real with yall, the only person that should ever have even allowed to drive is Dale fucking Earnhardt, I include myself in that but the only time I hate humanity more as a whole than on the road is in a busy Costco
The guy known for aggressive driving and died in a crash is who you think should be allowed to drive? Not sure I follow that one.
Not so fun fact: a friend of mine was trying to get me into watching racing with him. To this day that’s the only NASCAR race I’ve seen and caught it live when I was a kid.
Ain’t 3’s fault no one else was qualified to do it right! Raise hell praise Dale!
Solid public transport would fix a lot of that but Ford and GM gonna Ford and GM.
People go “ooh, a trolley car!”, when’s the last time you heard anyone go “Ooh, a Lyft”?
Somebody watches CityNerd!
I don’t, I actually got that from my friend who’s son is obsessed with trolleys right now. I’ll have to check them out of that’s a philosophy they jive with
Definitely do check him out, he’s dry humor about cities’ unique challenges and wins for mass transit. On Nebula or any of the YouTube variants
Synthesis is: no-one should be allowed to drive
The US huge. Unless you live in a metro area and never leave you’re going to need a vehicle.
Moving state to state, generally, it will take you an entire day at a freeway speed to get 2 states over. We have 48 on the drivable side.
The size isn’t that relevant. Trains are far better than cars for long distance travel. The problem with the US is the many areas of low but non-zero population density.
To accommodate that you need a good rail network and then probably cars to take you the last few hours. This would work best if those cars were self driving, so they can get back to a hub rather than wherever you are in bumfuck nowhere.
I agree that subsidizing more rail would be good, but it’s pretty fixed, location wise. It’s already in place for most intercity travel.
Rural/outside city living is diffuse, scatters in all directions from a city. It’s why there’s rush hour in most cities. How do you run rail to all those locations? Can you imagine the nimby screams? It also significantly drops real estate values having trains rolling through the backyard.
According to Wikipedia there are three U.S. cities with populations over 2 million that have no intercity passenger rail service (Las Vegas, Columbus OH, and Nashville). Dozens of cities used to have rail services but don’t any more. In European countries, it’s normal for all cities and towns with a population of at least, say, 50,000 to be served by intercity rail, so there’s a lot of improvements possible.
I’m not saying that US rail should aim to serve the rural population - that’s what the cars are for.
You could similarly say that Europe is huge, or that China is huge, or that the whole planet is huge, and therefore the people living there must need a vehicle. Except, most people dont leave their local area all that often, and when they do, theres nothing that inherently requires that the vehicle used to do so much be individually owned. This isnt to say that nobody needs a car, obviously if you live way out in the middle of nowhere, running transit might not be so viable- but that does not describe how and where most people live, even in the US, and for the majority that do live in urban areas, the size of the whole country is irrelevant to if they would need cars if we just built the proper infrastructure.
The Local Group, which includes the Milky Way galaxy, is over 10 million light years, so you can easily see that I have no choice but to own a car to be able to get around.
Intergalactic travel is rough, make sure you get all wheel drive
Most places in Europe and many places in China have functioning mass transit. Most places in the US do not. The car lobby is very powerful in the US, and they work hard to make life impossible without a car.
Well yeah, that’s my point though, there’s nothing about the US’s size that means it cant have that stuff, the big country argument is functionally just an excuse to distract from what the car industry has done here.
The problem is that even in my local area the infrastructure is built for cars so much that walking takes 10x longer than it should.
There are many such areas, what I was trying to say was more that that is a solvable problem, if the government of the area was sufficiently motivated to solve it, rather than something like “we’re too big for anything but cars”, which is more of an excuse to not do any of that change to the infrastructure because it implies that nothing can reasonably be done and that cars are simply the natural way of things.
The problem is that making my area pedestrian friendly would involve doing a lot more than just adding sidewalks.
For example, it would make much more sense to link all the cul de sacs with walking/biking paths. But to do that we’d need to bulldoze some houses, get easements from property owners, and a then pay for the paths to be put in while hearing construction equipment for months.
And our local government just doesn’t have the power to do that in a reasonable amount of time, or with any guarantees of it even surviving election season.
And that’s not even talking about dealing with improving the main thoroughfare which is a state highway, meaning the local government has no say in how it’s built.
You may like : « Traffic management » with Michael Douglas (Falling Down,1990)
The golf course scene was good too.
Driving isn’t a right, it’s a privilege.
Driving is g a right
In a city without public transit, denying someone the right to drive is denying them personal autonomy.
A vehicle is 3000lb bullet. If you’re not competent, or irresponsible with chemicals, then everyone on the road is at risk.
No one likes picking up body parts on a road or extracting what is basically meat from a vehicle. Or meeting people who should’ve had a norm as l life and are now paralyzed from the neck down. Or, alternatively, a TBI. Broken neuro wiring like someone took an egg beater to sections of their brain, leaving them just save enough to know they’re fucked up.
That isn’t a privilege. Competency should be required with 3000lb bullets.
I don’t disagree that better mass transit is needed in some cities, but that doesn’t mean we hand drivers licenses to incompetent or irresponsible people.
that doesn’t mean we hand drivers licenses to incompetent or irresponsible people.
Judging by the way people drive in my city, that’s exactly what it means :(
A vehicle is 3000lb bullet
How fast do you think bullets move?
No one likes picking up body parts on a road or extracting what is basically meat from a vehicle.
You could make the same argument about train derailments or plane crashes.
That’s not what is at issue. Virtually nobody is seriously suggesting we de-industrialize transit.
The problem at hand is profit motive. Personal vehicles force people into debt, both directly through purchase and through secondary demands - parking, gasoline, maintenance. That’s what generates the economic pressure that keeps them in place.
If we were fixated on safety, we could make cars smaller and slower and we could shield pedestrians from them with infrastructure. You’d save far more lives by lowering the speed limit than raising the DMV licensing standards.
that doesn’t mean we hand drivers licenses to incompetent or irresponsible people
People aren’t consistently competent or responsible. So you either install some kind of panopticon for drivers (the private insurance model) and try to price people you suspect are high risk out of your personal risk pool. Or you get people out of cars entirely, knowing anyone can have a day that makes them highly prone to driving mistakes.
So you either install some kind of panopticon for drivers
This is what they’re doing. New cars will use cameras and sensors to determine impairment and then refuse to start.
You’re being pedantic. We call them 3000lb bullets to describe what they are when not controlled well, not because of their speed. As a driver, it’s good to think of your vehicle in those terms too.
As for monitoring, check out Loyal Moses. His vid on what tech Ford just patented.
you’re right, but the solution is not to give everyone the inalienable right to drive, it’s to redesign the city such that people who can’t drive can still live in it fully (i.e. build public transit and walkable/cyclable path of ways)
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Everyone should have equal rights
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To ride the bus
Boom. Solved.
As a bus driver, hard disagree! There’s people who will wait at a bus stop, wait in line to board the bus, and only then will they spend 5 minutes digging through their pockets or bags for fare.
Or ask where the bus is going, expecting me to tediously list out all the places this bus goes, and when asked the very reasonable question"where are you trying to get to?" Become cagey and refuse to answer. Then ask the same vague and open ended questions.
These people should report to the nearest artillery practice range asap
Never understood why bus stops didn’t have little kiosks to buy a ticket there, like train stations do.
Too expensive. Most bus stations are basically just a sign, sometimes you also get an ad poster and a shelter. Bringing kiosks would imply setting up electricity and internet. When you could instead just make a phone app.
Those are solvable problems though, there’s plenty of busses who don’t accept change already. You can add ticket ‘vending machines’ and have better signage for this.
Usually when someone asks “where the bus goes?” they mean the last stop of the bus, but maybe it’s just in my place idk
I like the ones we have around here waiting at the bus stops on our main boulevard which is a perfectly straight road you can see up and down for about a mile and a half in either direction, but who will stand out in the travel lanes and craaaane their necks in this ridiculous pose apparently hoping this will allow them to see the bus coming sooner.
The first part could be fixed by making buses have no fare
I’ve seen people lose that right. Hell, I almost did.
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my metronome take is: everyone should have a livable wage / bigots deserve to be houseless
bigots deserve to be houseless
Eliminating homelessness goes a long way towards curbing bigotry. It’s far easier to exploit and abuse folks with no permanent place to live. And our propaganda machine loves to pin problems produced by structural failures on the victims.
Once you house the homeless, a lot of the low hanging fruit of fascist agitation fades away. And a significant pool of young, uneducated, easily exploitable people are no longer in easy reach to radicalize.
You have the right to exercise your driving skills, if you have them
Who decides who can drive? The cops and the prosecutors and the city governments and County officials? Fuck that.
I’m fine with the DMV deciding who can drive.
The DMV is working off the information of the police. You are fine with the police telling you what is. Seemingly unaware that the police lie as they speak.
If the tester at the DMV thinks it’s dangerous for you to drive, it probably is.
My driving test was pulling out of a parking spot, driving once around the lot, then pulling back into the same spot.
Now imagine how badly you’d have to do it for them to fail you…
✨fuck cars✨
Driving is not a right, it’s a privilege.
I was at my first gun show with an older friend who knew guns better than I did who I was following around to keep me from making any stupid decisions.
There’s a table with a sign for “Constitutional Carry,” where they don’t think you should need a special license to concealed carry a handgun.
My friend walks up to these two guys at the table, and says “Hey, just so you know, I hope you guys fail.”
The younger of the two kind of bristles, but the older one, a dude with a long white beard, says “Oh, why?”
My friend says “Because I worked in a gun shop for fifteen years, and I helped fill out more concealed carry applications than I can count and…” at this point she gestures around at the huge room behind us, “I wouldn’t trust 95% of the people in this room with any gun at all.”
And the old dude behind the table smiles and nods his head and says “Yeah, that’s a fair point.”
So anyway, that’s the day I bought a Ruger GP-100 in 357 Magnum.
So anyway, that’s the day I bought a Ruger GP-100 in 357 Magnum.
explain joke plz me chronically stupid
“Wonderwall” is a song that’s very easy to learn on guitar so the meme is that bad guitar players will bust out a guitar and subject you to their bad rendition of the song at inappropriate times when nobody asked for a performance.
15 years ago me and a buddy were shooting pool in a local bar, maybe a dozen total people in there. Some I finished taking guitar lessons last month douche was playing acoustic in there and it’s the same list of basic songs you’d expect. Partway through his set he was giving the usual platitudes, suggesting tips and saying we’re a great crowd, then says “So anybody wanna hear Your Body is a Wonderland?”
At the same time we both casually said No.
He was some college age kid in jeans, a white v-neck tshirt and a Glock on his belt…in a bar.
So you’re the one who puts pointless red circles everywhere?!?
Such a heartwarming and inclusive remark
man with gun go “bang bang bang”. man with guitar goes “bang bang bang”. one with gun the other with instrument.
ah so the meme was in american, got it
Yeah, you unfortunately have to manage your expectations here
It’s better than reddit, but still mostly 'Murican, and hence pretty stupid and with a warped sense of what constitutes freedom
wow…what an incredible sense of humor…how can you possibly be so funny…
In a civilised country, driving would be reserved for those capable of doing so safely and efficiently (the qualifications would be on a par with certifications for operating similarly powerful industrial machinery, and would not be graded on a curve to ensure a car-dependent society can function), but infrastructure would be designed so that one could live a full life without driving.
