So European Union countries specifically?
The little text on the image mentions “the survey was only held in EU countries”, the big text on the image doesn’t care.
Probably the EU fash government seeing how far they’ve come in their promoting of the artificial Euronation
Funny how nationalists, can’t possibly imagine that there could be something other than national entities and communities, as if the Westphalian paradigm would be really so total as it pretends to be.
There is no “Euronation”, there doesn’t need to be to have a common European Union, with a common civil society, legal and judicial institutions and common law, to do the things the member states can’t do on their own. Of course Russia and the US hate that because they’d rather prefer those things being decided in DC or Moscow instead, without the influence from anyone from all these European countries.
LOL
Of course ther can be something other, we have that monstrosity right now.There are no bigger bootlickers to DC that these sell out EU traitors.
They bend over and let the US terrorists blow up our ges supply so they can benefit, sanction ourselves and thank them for the tariffs.
And support these scumbag nazis in their unprovoked attack on Iran.
And we suckers now also have to buy more US war crap.It’s the Eurorats who have destroyed European independence.
We are nothing but their pawns to be used as proxies against Russia.You keep imagining this EU farce makes us somehow strong while we’re rapidly being destroyed and bankrupted.
It is probably a waste to ask you, how it is that the US is driving the same anti-EU propaganda that Russia is and supporting even the identical parties for that. It makes zero sense if the EU is “the biggest bootlicker to DC”.
Member states have shifted substantial arms procurement away from the US, contrary to your claim too.
Given the delusional stuff you are saying about gas and your opposition to the sanctions against the Russian regime, at least it gets clear where you are coming from. If you prefer being ruled by DC or Moscow, after destroying Brussels.
It’s clearly you who is delusional if you don’t see these EU traitors are nothing but sell-outs destroying Europe for the US regime.
Maybe you were sleeping when the US terrorists blew up Nordstream and denied us cheap gas from Russia.
What did our EU ‘leaders’ do? Nothing.
On the contrary, they decide to buy 8x more expensive fracking gas from them.
And you can keep sticking your head in the sand and not see how that is destroying our competitivity and many companies close, fire workers and/or move.
And then the US regime start bombing Iranian schoolgirls unprovoked causing even more crisis for us.
And what is the reaction from our bootlickers? Sactions on the aggressor? No, they sanction Iran for defending themselves.
What did that embarrassing lapdog VDL say about this clear violation of international law? “Europe must accept the world as it is”.
And worse, many EU countries even send ships in support.
Same as they keep supporting the genocide state despite their cheap empty words.
I bet you buy them too.Member states have shifted substantial arms procurement away from the US, contrary to your claim too.
You offer zero sources for your faulty claims.
Again simply suckered by lying politician’s words and ‘intentions’.So not so long ago, while we’re already being bankrupted and these EU bastards were already stealing our pensions and social welfare money to throw in the bottomless corrupt pit that is Ukraine, the orange clown said we should pay even more for their wars. We already more than tripled imports. Europe now accounts for 33% of global arms imports.
Paying even more while we’re already in shit was a bit too much to sell to the EU population.
Guess what happened then?
Trump does his little act as if EU is no longer friendly, some meaningless threats pulling out of NATO, posturing and talk about Greenland and suddenly the EU lapdogs now have an excuse to say we need to be ‘independent’ and buy more weapons.
Hey look, exactly what Trump wanted in the first place.
58% of all major weapons imported into Europe we buy from that warmongering country. 217% increase from 2024 to 2025.
That’s really “moving away from the US” right?
Thank god the media is pushing the important achievements of independence like making our own Office software. That will show em!Facts are the US regime is out of stock with all their illegal wars and now has effectively outsourced a big part of the anti-Russia effort and bill to us so they can concentrate on bombing brown kids in the middle-east or further antagonize China.
There are long term agreements and contracts making sure we still buy more US crap.
And guess what will happen in 2 years when Trump is gone?
Just like that we will be best friends again, and the temporary EU independent show can end. Of course we will have spent all those billions by then and we can use these arms to support their endless imperialist wars like we always have done.
Like good vassals.But you can’t even look ahead that far and have no grasp of geopolitics.
Keep buying the independent strong EU nonsense talk, and don’t look at the devastating consequences for the population while living in your fantasy world. We’re definitely not ruled by DC!Wow, you are really into the full Russian narrative. Never mind that this mythical cheap resources from a regime that is openly waging a hybrid war against the rest of Europe, did not help Hungary at all in getting energy prices down, let alone keep inflation in check. Its way worse than in Poland which has done everything it could to get away from that “cheap energy”. Those not falling for Russian propaganda are doubling down on the transition to renewable energies and the necessary infrastructure modifications needed to support it. The shift in the last 5 years has been very substantial and is already paying off during the price shock caused by the US regimes war against the Iranian regime.
But yeah both, the US and Russian regime support the identical parties in the EU, which are reliably acting against the national interests of their own countries and for the interest of their sponsors. Surprise, surprise.
The EU is massively investing in strategic autonomy, which of course cannot be achieved over night but there are very meaningful programs going on right now to get there. All of them are wildly opposed by people supporting your stance. Those programs also will not disappear when Trump is gone. Galileo is there to stay, so will be Iris2, European arms programs, improved coordination etc. Unless of course those parties sponsored by Russia manage to convince the majority of the voters. In that case those projects might be killed and we will enter the age of true national sovereignty … for sure.
Also known as a map of narrow minded people. Eerily accurate.
Why does this make people narrow minded?
It overlaps significantly with areas where there are strong nationalist and sometimes separatist movements.
What a surprise!
Budapest: HELLO BROTHERS!! I LOVE YOUUUUUU!!
The rest of Europe: Fuck off, dude, we just live in the same neighborhood.
A tiny bit of context:
Hungary just had national elections ~2 months ago, finally pulling the handbrake and getting rid of the previous government’s 16 year old reign. The previous PM (Orbán) had been inching closer to Russia every year, and this year the elections were (among many other things) basically about showing loyalty to Europe instead of taking the final step on the slippery slope and becoming a Russian lapdog again. Since the opposition was the strongest in the capital city, chances are the (only?) red colour on the map represents this, and not Budapest’s all-time excitement over the EU.
Also, historical Hungary used to be larger at one point in history, which could (partially?) explain the regional colours in Western Romania and Eastern Austria. Not even necessarily because of the nationality in mind, but it certainly had an influence over culture and politics.
I’m not an expert on Germany, but their regional divide might be in part due to the East-West divide after WW2. Please correct me if I’m wrong, since there’s a good chance.
(also, OP, I think you wanted to spell ‘feel’ in the title)
Hungary = Mongol horde
The image notes that the survey was conducted in 2021. Would that change your assessment?
Haha, lol, I didn’t even notice that : ). TBF it’s been a topic for a few years already, but in that case it might have been a different reason just as well.
I think you were right about opposition being strongest in the capital My experience is big cities are more pro-european in general and rural villages generally more ‘pro-region’, I don’t know about Hungary in particular but i wouldn’t be surprised if that were true there too, not just since Orbán left but also in
20222021Definitely for at least decades, if not for eons. Obviously there are exceptions, but on average the countryside is just not as open and accepting as the average large city dweller.
You see this with support for progressive / conservative policies too. Must be countless studies into what the cause is for this effect.
You’re indeed wrong about Germany, the different attachments don’t follow the iron curtain at all. Both west-and east Germany have regions with different attachment color.
Most of the regions with a strong regional attachment seem to correspond to the larger independent states before German unification in the 19th century: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unification_of_Germany. Mecklenburg, Wurttemberg, Bayern and Upper Saxony are all 4 recognizable on the map of the op. The bit below Denmark was ruled in a personal union by the Danish monarch before the unification wars.
France tried their best to split Saarland off from Germany several times, which might explain their strong regional attachment.
Well, at least I was right about me being wrong. I guess it’s Friday again.
Sorry, and thanks for the correction! Today I learned.
Oof, thats gotta hurt for the UK, now that they’re part of Antarctica.
Whatever differences they may have, at least Europeans can rally around their true common interest: not being Americans. 🇪🇺 🥰
What the FUCK is a kilometer?!?!
Dear Europeans, recognise what you have before you let some insane populist convince you that you don’t need the EU.
Over the channel, we’re economically 8% down from where we would have been if we hadn’t left, there’s no money for anything and we’ve lost a chunk of consumer protection, a lot of data protection and our supreme court seem to be busily dismantling our equalities legislation, despite all that supposedly wonderful parliamentary sovereignty we were told we would regain. It’s all fucked up. Don’t do it. The EU is flawed, but you so very much want to keep in it, trust me.
Don’t worry, here in germany we also don’t have money for anything, and costs for public healthcare are rising again soon, and other social services receive cuts as well. Our infrastructure is shit, digitization barely exists, rents are rising faster than wages, gasoline and Diesel are expensive, and our chancellor tells us we are lazy pieces of shit who don’t work enough whereas in the very same moment companies are doing mass layoffs. The economy as a whole is stagnating and hasn’t experienced meaningful boosts since pre-covid. Our education system is basically the same as it was in Prussia. We have a massive lack of teachers and school buildings are crumbling. And the uncontrolled mass migration makes literally everything I just listed a lot worse.
So don’t worry, you can be in the EU and still everything sucks.
it’s your VDL and her fascists that want to spend all the money on war for the benefit of the US fascists, the ones who bew up out gas pipeline.
there’s no money for anything
There is, but there’s no political will to spend it where it’s needed. The government’s spending limits are self imposed.
Something about this comparison stinks. I don’t know what it is, but it’s statistics with an agenda. Something is implied and I don’t like it.
Indeed. There’s a bunch of downvoted comments at the bottom that explain it and get downvoted because of what you described.
What a stupid propaganda piece
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Lmao, like strong nationalism isn’t being used to drive division
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I wouldn’t have that expectation if I were you. Based on how both our comments got downvoted I suspect the beautiful Lemmings on here still live with a “no! I don’t accept, we’re better than this”
Yet once you go to those (especially orange) areas and you see how flamingly openly full racist and white nationalist those people have become in the last 10 20 years, it becomes harder to think of a culturally aligned Europe.
People forget this post WWII near 90 year on continuous peace time was extraordinarily exceptional and not how Europe typically fares through a century.
I would’ve definitely guessed Parisians were like New Yorkers who looked down on all the hicks living in the countryside.
Yes, they do, but in their mind Paris IS France, so yeah.
I’ve seen this before but what’s up with Budapest?
It’s a city-as-a-region; cities tend to be way more cosmopolitan (from cosmos: world, and polites: citizen - citizens of the world, so to speak) than any surrounding village. I bet if they had Amsterdam as region, it too would’ve been more attached to Europe.
Then again, EU and Europe tend to be conflated anyway, so these diagrams are poisoned via the well.
countries that depend on the EU for money have a higher attachment.
I’m not surprised.
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So edgy, so revolutionary, so brave. Please teach me how to be cool like you
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You realize the data includes the opinion of non-whites too right?
And Europeans invented racism? Lol, that vile exists everywhere, and long before there was a European civilization.
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White people cannot experience racism.
That is racism though.
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You’re confusing things there, buddy. You say racism but you describe white supremacy.
white supremacy, beliefs and ideas purporting natural superiority of the lighter-skinned, or “white,” human races over other racial groups. (www.britannica.com/topic/white-supremacy)
Saying white people are not able to experience racism is racism, also saying all white people inherently desire white supremacy is racism:
racism, the belief that humans may be divided into separate and exclusive biological entities called “races”; that there is a causal link between inherited physical traits and traits of personality, intellect, morality, and other cultural and behavioral features; and that some races are innately superior to others. (www.britannica.com/topic/racism)
You simply must admire Switzerland’s commitment to neutrality.
*money
That’s not Europeans, only EU.
