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      About to install it on my new rig. I am using Mint, which is fantastic and it stays on my other PC, just wanted to try the nice baked in gaming features.

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      Yup bazzite with KDE plasma for my gaming rig now, thing works very well for use case!

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      Bazzite is amazing. Pretty much all Ublue based distros have been the most painless Linux experience I’ve had in years. The biggest problem I think most users have is the Dominance of Nvidia graphics hardware. Nvidia does “work” but it’s much more unstable than the much more stable AMD driver. I bought an AMD 7800xt and I’m pretty much problem free now.

      Since I have so many Nvidia cards I’m regularly testing Nvidia under Bazzite on a spare 2070super. It’s impressive but it’s not ready for average users.

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      Installed Bazzite this weekend, most the games I’ve tested run fine and the OS is quite pretty. Microsoft forcing everyone to Spware OS after Steam released several versions or Proton are the one-two punch that will help tons of people move to Linux. 🐧

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        I recommend buying a separate drive instead of repartitioning your current one. You’ll have more space, no nonsense with bootloaders (just switch the drive in UEFI), etc. Configure Linux to know about the Windows drive and then you can boot into either really easily.

        When you’re ready to ditch windows, just remove/reformat the other drive. I still keep windows around for the 1-2x/year that I want to test something out.

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    This is the third time today that I have seen a reference to the sword of Damocles. Almost as if the entire fucking world feels like it’s only a thread away from destruction…

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      I’ve been seeing it a lot more recently, too. IRL even.

      Did it get used by sometime famous recently or something?

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        There was a king once named Damocles that had a sword suspended over his throne that could come crashing down at any random moment and kill him, to remind himself of the fragility of his power, and human life.

        I have no idea how that anecdote might apply to people in power in this day and age, or why people would reference the anecdote.

        Glares at the fraying rope

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    There are still people so powerful they manage to use Windows XP in this day and age. My intuition says most people will be able to use Windows 10 for at least one more decade with minimal issues, after that it will gradually become trickier, but it will still be usable even in 20-30 years with advanced hacks if humanity doesn’t go extinct by then.

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      Seriously the posts on here make me laugh so much. Linux has never felt like more of a cult than since I’ve been on Lemmy… And I use Linux! But I also use Windows! I used Windows XP, 7 and 8 all well past their prime and will do the same with 10.

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      There are still people so powerful they manage to use Windows XP in this day and age

      Those people are called doctors and they deserve your respect!

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      “Powerful” probably wouldn’t be the word I’d use given that security updates have stopped. Maybe “foolhardy”?

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        Yeah, I don’t use critical software that doesn’t get security updates, and an OS is super critical.

        If you’re going to stick with ancient software, at least throw it in a VM so it can’t screw up everything else (and don’t let it touch the rest of your network).

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    Microsoft said Windows 10 would be the last version I’d ever use. They didn’t know how right they were. I’ve been gradually switching to Linux, and will absolutely never use Windows 11 or any other version they put out.

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        Adobe needs to be abandoned as well. Clip Studio, Krita, Gimp, Affinity are either free OSS or one-time-payment great alternatives without the AI and privacy BS.

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          I’ve also mentioned this before but for those that need a more photoshop-like GIMP experience, try taking a look at PhotoGimp, it’s essentially a reskin+remap of all of the hotkeys to more closely match those of photoshop, and it works wonderfully.

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          I will never stop laughing at the absolute fucking joke of a suggestion that Gimp is a suitable replacement for Photoshop. It’s like saying MS Paint is a good enough replacement for Photoshop. No. Not even REMOTELY. I want alternatives, but Gimp is absolutely not it.

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          Are any of these a smooth transition coming from Adobe programs? I really don’t want to re-learn my entire workflow in InDesign, Illustrator and Photoshop.

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            I’ve heard that Clip Studio is pretty close but I have not tried it yet. My experience with Gimp and Krita is that they are fairly close to Photoshop. That is to say that it would be easy for a Photoshop user to jump into those and start working. I have searched for the occasional “how to do XYZ in Gimp or Krita.”

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          Affinity

          Unfortunately, I seem to recall that Affinity doesn’t run well under wine. If only they would officially port it to Linux, that would be a major move for them and for Linux. Follow DaVinci Resolve’s and BitWig’s examples.

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              Sure, that’s definitely an option, I suppose with GPU passthrough (I’m not sure how well this works). My idea when I switch to Linux is to have Windows 11 and macOS VMs.

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      I built a new gaming PC and installed Linux on it. After years of threatening to do it, I finally followed through and made the switch.

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        I just bought a laptop last year (portability and space constraints, I’d love to build a pc when I have the space for it) and it was supposed to come with windows 10.

        I got a windows 11 model shipped to me. I didn’t ask for this. And I have to say… I fucking hate it. Why does the start menu need to change locations…

        My next computer will absolutely be Linux, and it’s Microsoft’s own stupid fault. Windows 10 WAS supposed to be my last windows OS…

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          There’s no reason to wait. You don’t need to buy the computer with the OS installed. Just install Linux now. They should be punished for forcing Windows 11 on you, not rewarded by you using it for a few more years.

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          Why does the start menu need to change locations…

          The INFINITELY bigger question is why isn’t it my choice? I actually just modified my windows 10 to have the start menu be centered, but like, it should just be completely customizable to your liking… as if it were your own computer or something. If I wanted everything locked down and baby proofed I would have just bought a Mac.

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              I don’t think you read my comment before you decided to respond to what you thought it said.

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            Oh fuck yeah gimme that customization and personalization options

            I used to use a program on one of my computers called rainmeter I think, and it allowed me to customize my desktop to look like the Animus menus from Assassin’s creed 2. Then decided to go with hexagons everywhere, with the replacement start menu dead center screen and other buttons areayed out from there.

            Haven’t used it in many years, but I’d love that level of customization* on a pc nowadays. It seems like no matter where I go, every UI looks the same. Good for familiarity, not so much for “oh this is neat, they made it their own” factor.

            *without learning entire programming languages, I hyperfixate on things but programming has never been something I’ve been able to get into

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              Switch to Linux. KDE is pretty easy to customize out of the box. There’s other DEs that can have more or less, harder or easier options too, but KDE is probably the best moving from Windows.

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          Win 11 is the reason I finally decided to switch. My work gave us all Win 11 machines and I hate it.

          Fortunately I don’t do too much on my computer besides gaming so Steam can do all the heavy lifting for me

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            That would be great, but unfortunately for me I have too many programs that depend on windows, don’t have Linux options, and if I’m being honest with myself I really just don’t want to learn an entirely new ecosystem. I will if forced, but the moment this laptop shits itself or they discontinue support for the OS, I’m getting a crash course.

            I’d love to turn an old tablet or somethinf into a Linux device in the meantime so I can at least start something. Too bad my parent’s old kindles won’t work, there’s enough of them laying around their house…

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              Most Windows programs can run through WINE, and the ones that can’t can usually be run in a Windows virtual machine. Try a Bootable USB with the distro you might want (I personally recommend Garuda). You don’t need to commit right away, but I bet you’ll have an easier time than you expect.

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              I’ve been making the switch on my own new PC, some programs I was concerned about can be run ok through Lutris. It’s been an adjustment but no regrets

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          I bought a laptop right after windows 11 was released. I hated it so much, I returned the laptop a few days later and bought a windows 10 one instead.

          Completely Linux now except that gaming laptop, but this year is the year of the Linux desktop! For me at least.

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      I upgraded to Windows 11 on my gaming rig two days ago, and at the same time I switched the default boot option to Linux. Let’s see how this pans out.

      I’ll still need Windows around for specific games, but the ones I usually play seem to work on Linux.

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        I’m curious which specific games you still need Windows for? I’m only aware of a handful (Riot games and some Chinese ones).

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      Just like a Linux user to tell everyone they use Linux. Classic.

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    Windows 10 LTSC is supported until 2032 or so. I’ll be avoiding upgrading for a long time.

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    I finally upgraded to 11 last week by accident. Apparently one misclick means straight to next version with no cancel. So after the upgrade first thing I did was get o&o shutup10 to kill the spywares.

    P.s. I know I can revert. But that’s also effort.

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      Have you succeeded in making things less crappy? I’ve been debating the upgrade for a while and I’m basically hoping this is possible by the time I do it. I already use shutup10 on win10, but I wasn’t if win11 kneecaps it somehow or not.

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        Get a copy of Win 11 Pro

        Install with English (UK) as your language (doesn’t prevent you from using whatever keyboard layout you want or setting your clock to your timezone)

        Activate using tools they can easily be found on the interwebs

        Deactivate the privacy infringing stuff

        Tada, none of the problems people complain about

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          This is a good overview though I wouldn’t know how to do the specifics like get pro (I have 10 home), or deactivate all the infringing stuff.

          What’s the UK trick? Is that just a better version or something?

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        Start menu is permanently lacking features. But besides that it’s not a major change. There is third party softwares that puts back 10 style or other start menus, but heard there are issues with windows updates. Besides that just get shutup10 again and tick stuff off. Pretty much solves it imo.

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          What’s missing from start? I don’t actually use the start menu much so not sure I would miss anything anyway.

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            I thought I already replied to this, but apparently not. Sorry for the late response.

            The start menu no longer has the windows 10 tiles. It’s just search and icons of apps you’ve pinned. Similar to phone app menu. You can put some into folders/groups together. And that’s it. There’s no further customization possible.

            You can get third party solution to bring back more features such as Start11 from Stardock, but that means paying for an additional software and I’ve heard it gets buggy with windows updates.

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      Revert then.

      This is exactly what Microsoft are counting on, that people will simply go “oh well” and just carry on with Windows 11, because any effort needed to move away is too much effort.

      Prove them wrong. Stand up for yourself.

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    The whole point of the Sword of Damocles was that the threat was always looming and Damocles didn’t know when it might fall. We know exactly when Microsoft says they are going to drop support. There’s a decent chance that they’ll push that date back due to slow adoption at least once.

    This is more about rats not fleeing the sinking ship until the sea has reached the bow.

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      With the shit they built into 10 I really would not be surprised if they put in a kill switch

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        “Sword of Damocles” like bitch we used service pack 2 XP for ever. “We won’t support something” means nothing if the original product was built right.

        …Ohhh now I see the problem. Nevermind, everybody, carry on.

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          I know people still running XP sp3 (firewalled off the net) and it still does the job. They claimed to have killed 7 but between FOSS and enshittification pushback I reckon it’s gonna be like the PS2

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      More like rats not joining a leaking ship. I’ve been through enough windows upgrades to know: Don’t be the first! You’ll only end up paying to be a software tester for a product MS had to ship before it’s ready to keep the shareholders happy.

      Don’t be the first one in the water after the shark warning …

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      Well, the real moment it becomes an issue is when a significant vulnerability is found after EOS. So I guess after EOS is when the sword of damocles starts hanging above every win 10 user…

      Personally I’m on the edge of the ship just waiting to jump off once i have my new pc (probably next week).

  • If I did anything other than use my PC as a glorified gaming console, I might care about w10 not being updated anymore. Until games literally can’t work on the OS, I’ll stay on it. And when they do stop working, I’ll probably just install Linux.

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    Pry it from my cold dead hands. I have linux on multiple computers, but it still can’t play all the games and give me my 5.1 surround. Despite all the claims, it’s still not ready for primetime to do all the things windows does.

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    They are gonna have to pry windows 10 from my cold dead hands. I was sold 10 on the premise that it was going to be “the last windows OS I would need”.

    Fuck you Microsoft.