Nice try Trump Administration
Dark humor
ITT: racists, and homophobics, and transphobics, and just genuinely the absolute worst people are outing themselves
ITT:
(It’s okay to like a show. Cartman’s voice just gives me a headache, you guys.)
Do you have a high res version of this?
I don’t, sorry. After some searching it appears the text comes from here: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/politics-news/south-park-politics-bush-obama-trump-1236356905/
“if someone disagrees im muting them” is the cry of someone i dont need to hear anything from
It’s even worse on websites where OPs can delete comments arbitrarily
The entitled American (and I’m an American myself). My country has fostered mentalities and behaviors that I can’t stand. We act like the planet owes us everything. Obviously not everyone is like this, but America has a unique brand of entitlement that I’ve witnessed pour out of both right-wingers ans even the most leftist people. I witnessed a local well-known white pro-Palestine activist refuse to participate in a march for the black community because police were present. They didn’t stop to think “this is lead by and represents them—I should stay to support their actions.”
No one is safe from being an entitled asshole and it’s healthy to have a reality check sometimes. Not everything is about America.
Oh damn I’m not one to defend the USA, but in this case I have to say, it’s not just you. I feel we absolutely live in the age of entitlement, as in, that is the biggest problem right now, and might even destroy us.
You have these far right movements going on everywhere, and they literally consist of people who, when presented with scientific facts, insist that they are entitled to have their opinion that says otherwise. And politically correct people can feel pushed to agree that, yes, they are entitled to their opinion.
But while that whole group is either that entitlement or selective ignorance, it absolutely exists on the left, too, like you said. I’ve run into LGBT+? folks that go “it’s not your time to talk, it’s your time to listen” in a comment thread. I’ll gladly talk WITH people in a respectful way, but if you just want to talk AT me… No, you’re not entitled to me being an audience for some kinda narcissist savior fantasy.
The red pill bugs, who feel entitled to women’s bodies. The female counterparts, who feel entitled to men paying for everything. The parents who feel entitled to everybody accomodating their kids. The customers who feel entitled to mistreat service workers. The people who say “I deserve” where others say “I earned”.
Entitlement, man. Work on not being entitled, and you’re already a saint among sinners.
Yeah, you’re not required to sit there and be talked at like a child. That kind of behavior makes me shutdown 100%. When I was a kid and adults resorted to yelling, I just assumed they were inept at communicating and tuned them out. It carried over into adulthood too. If a manager acted that way, I walked out and quit (I’ve done it twice in my life now). It’s similar to police in America expecting respect simply because they have a badge. Respect is earned.
The red pillers thinking they have autonomy over another human is a whole other level of insanity.
All of this entitlement and inability to communicate with respect is unique to 2 countries: America and Israel. Both are places that have drilled exceptionalism into their core values. I’ve yet to see other countries behave this way. A good litmus test for this is to use Rednote for a few months. Join chat groups, post about yourself and your country, engage with people. Your experience there will be 10x different than on Instagram. People on Facebook and Instagram will quickly resort to talking shit and being abrasive. On Rednote, the experience is completely different.
What I know about South Park:
- Its creators are libertarians
- There’s an episode which may have promoted climate change denialism
- The show may have also contributed to ‘both sides same’ idiocy
Doesn’t seem like my cup of tea tbh.
Wow, an outdated oversimplification and two “may haves” to sum up a show with almost 340 episodes (plus 2 full, plot-heavy video games and a feature film) over the last 3 decades.
Seems like your ‘cup of tea’ would be better described as a Dixie cup of lukewarm tap water with a single, uncut lemon seed. All those other flavors like Chai, Oolong, or Earl Grey? Nah, those are WAYYY too spicy and scawy! Heaven forbid you go out and ask an actual fan–or Hell, anyone who’s seen even one episode–instead of lightly skimming the Controversies section of their Wikipedia page
U mad?
Nah, you dumb.
That’s not me, you dipshit. Is this what a South Park fan like? Cup of tea, more like turd water from the toilet bowl.
You sound like you love South Park…
Not really? If anything, I’m more mad at how the point was presented rather than its conclusion. There are plenty of reasons to not like the show if one is so inclined, but simply saying “one episode may have contributed to ‘both sides equal’ idiocy” is just a terrible argument to make, even if it were true which is, to put it mildly, quite a stretch.
Nah. Fuck south park and fuck its fan base.
Is your username a portal reference? Because from what I’ve heard that game is super fucking sexist. It’s like a misogyny simulator, right? Chell constantly getting insulted for her weight and intelligence by some machine probably programmed by a man. How could someone be so sexist as to even like that game?
That is what you sound like talking about South Park.
Ah yes, the tried and tested “LALALALALA I’M NOT LISTENING LALALALALA” defense. Truly a classic
That was in the past though, they’ve changed tune since then.
In other words: Made lotta money -> went to the libertarian right -> got into hot water because they ofended rightwing nuts -> one step back to the left.
Wow, the real hallmark of principled ideals 🙄
People are allowed to change their minds
Edit: I thought I was in a thread about Graham Platner… So imagine we are when reading this lol
Sure, and if the thing they’re changing their minds from is fucking Nazism, then I have a very hard time supporting their political aspirations.
Yeah, people can think/say/do stupid shit when they’re young. Though let’s be clear that there are levels to this, and we’re talking about someone who was at Abu Ghraib and worked for Blackwater. This isn’t just like a kid who got radicalized by gamer gate or something, who has grown out of it. This guy killed many people (and is on record saying that he was very ok with that).
A person can think/say/do stupid shit when young, and if they decide to run for office, I reserve the right to not only judge them, but refuse to ever support them.
To me, it’s just not worth the risk.
Cha cha real smooth
You don’t need to politically agree with every joke you enjoy
I’m not going to discuss or argue about that statement about a show which I haven’t watched and don’t feel like watching (because what I know about it and its creators).
You have formulated opinions about the show that are clearly based on someone else’s opinions, and then admit exactly that but aren’t willing to discuss it. You would’ve been better off driving right by this post.
It’s amazing how butthurt sp fans are. If anything you guys are proving me right for not watching that shite.
I don’t consider myself a fan. Just someone that catches episodes here and there, especially now because they’re almost all pointing out how unhinged conservatives have become.
Am I misunderstanding? What is the point of a comment saying you won’t discuss it.
They’re just upset someone posted their tweet on here.
You don’t know very much, then. You have no idea if it’s your cup of tea… And that’s OK too, lotsa media out there. Can’t watch it all.
Not encouraging you to watch it, but this…
The show may have also contributed to ‘both sides same’ idiocy
Is kind of hilarious. I’m going to assume this is because of douche vs turd (aired 2004). It does mock both parties, but do you honestly think that the democrats never put out a bad candidate? Do you even remember who ran for dems in 2004 without looking it up? Don’t you think it’s an actual problem that most of the time a lot of people don’t actually like the candidates?
There is a deep problem in American politics, so a comedy show makes fun of it. And you turn around and blame the show for causing the problem. To be honest it is absolutely no surprise that your country is going to shit.
And just to clarify:
When Obama won, most adult characters that people like were celebrating for days. Like continuously.
When Trump ran the first time, they mocked him by replacing him with an awful existing character who ran on the platform of literally fucking all immigrants to death and had no idea what he was doing. Hilary was just… kind of shit. It’s incredibly obvious: one is awful, the other is uninspiring. Like real life where she actually managed to lose.
And in the most recent season they went harder against Trump than they ever have about a politician. He spent most of it cheating on his wife with literal Satan and trying to abort the baby with the help of Peter Theil.
In contrast, they didn’t even mock Biden as far as I recall?
Sorry to say you’ve been misled by someone who has another reason to dislike the show (or more likely, who also hasn’t watched the show)
To be fair, trump did lose the popular vote by 2% his first term. He also said he cheated the second time, I believe him.
Lol but only winning the popular vote by 2% against a patently idiotic, unqualified pedophile and rapist seems like a disaster on its own.
Since when was believing him a good idea? I think without some substantial evidence, the 2024 election deniers are just like the 2020 election deniers. We should absolutely look into it. But no evidence is no evidence any way you cut it.
Everyone points out that Kamala got no votes in a specific (NY?) county but it’s a religious community that is basically told how to vote by religious leaders. This is only from memory so feel free to correct/provide further evidence
Sure, but, if I recall, Gore was mocked for being afraid of man-bear-pig, their stand-in for Climate Change, but later man-bear-pig showed up started killing people, which is the show’s mea culpa.
Two of the hallmarks of both sides media is they never admit they were wrong and they invariably serve their power structure while pretending to be independent thinkers. Examples of this are the entire foreign policy establishment that cheerled the obviously disastrous Iraq war (while anyone against the obviously disastrous Iraq war was drummed out for not being serious), and Ezra Klein’s recent turnaround on Israel due to “new facts” from 60 years ago that he just learned (coinciding with a massive drop in Israel’s popularity and masterminding an obviously disastrous Iran war).
South Park admits they were wrong and they absolutely go up against power structures, so I throwing them in the “both sides” propaganda apparatus bucket is just wrong.
Because adults are just grown children, sometimes. Like, seriously, age says nothing about maturity, just hypothetical, lived experience.
How dare you like something I don’t like?
My take is that SP is a show about how everyone is capable of being hypocritical, petty and inflammatory. It touches on uncomfortable subjects because those are what bring people to show the aforementioned traits.
I don’t think “dark humor” is the point, it’s just there to keep the viewer engaged so they can see social issues from another angle and reconsider their views.
Yeah, it’s been a while since they graduated from sophomoric jokes into using their show to convey real messages about the world we live in. The satire is exquisite. My partner, who comes from a very different culture, typically doesn’t enjoy USA style comedy. She loves SP, though.
Why are people acting like this is not a Screenshot from twitter and as if SwissArmyKazoo personaly wrote that post???
I think the only unifying theme to South Park is that everything can be funny.
I would say that generally the characters with the least power are treated in the most sympathetic way, though, and those with the most power are painted with the worst brush.
They do have a sense of good and evil, but also acknowledge that evil is often given free reign because good people have a hard time organizing and gaining consensus as to what needs to be done about it.
I think some of the episodes have put light on things that need it. Scientology spring to mind.
Tourette Syndrome is another one.
The one thing they do is skewer pomp and pretension. They are the guys at a dinner party who say “everybody poops so why can’t we talk about it?” Or will ask the minister about his sex life if he asks about their relationship to God.
It can be genuinely stupid and annoying sometimes because it’s a blunt instrument. They assume that everything is fine and that anyone passionate about a cause is a misguided idiot.
Honestly, this.
No one is above reproach and they stay on the pulse.
However, I find the humor dated. It’s like if Jim Carrey did 30 sequels to Ace Ventura.
The Ace Ventura one is particularly apt because the one group they still punched down on a lot was trans people…
I haven’t noticed them punching down on trans people.
The entire arc with Mr/Ms Garrison?
How is that anti trans? Garrison was trans, then wasn’t, what about it? I fail to see how that is anti trans
Because literally the entire episode is basically “You will never be a real woman, no matter what”. Perpetuating the that trans people getting gender affirming care don’t know what they’re doing and are just mutilating their bodies. There’s literally a line where Garrison is talking to their doctor and says something along the lines of “Wait, so I’m basically just a dude with a fucked up dick?” and the doctor responding in the affirmative.
I genuinely really like a lot of stuff from Trey and Matt, but that’s one of a couple times where it felt far less like “poking fun” and was intentionally portraying trans people in a harmful way, in a way that an episode like “The Cissie” didn’t do nearly as aggressively.
I haven’t watched it in probably 20 years (whenever those episodes came out, time is an illusion and lunch time doubly so), but wasn’t that whole arc about Mr Garrison thinking they had to be a woman because they’re attracted to men and therefore couldn’t just be a gay man? Which seems more about old school homophobia or maybe the transphobic “trans women are just gay men trying to trick straight men into sleeping with them” autogynephelia thing. Plus there were all the usual Republican “I’m not 5ft 11! I’m trans 6 feet!”, trans-species, and trans-race “jokes” that are transphobic. Those were basically 1 step removed from them making an “attack helicopter” joke (if that).
Also, this?
Garrison was trans, then wasn’t
That’s transphobic. Being trans isn’t any more of a choice than being gay. Kissing the homies goodnight with full tongue isn’t you deciding to be gay for a day and then deciding to be straight again, and experimenting with your gender isn’t waking up one morning and deciding to be trans for a day.
You may try it and decide that it isn’t for you, but that doesn’t mean that you were trans or gay and now aren’t anymore. It just means that you ran an experiment that helped you learn more about yourself.
And to go further, breaking gender stereotypes (like femboys do, for example) doesn’t make you trans either, but it does make you cool for being brave enough to give the finger to society by not playing the stereotype they expect you to play. And if you try it and decide you don’t like it? That’s cool too, you were brave enough to step outside your comfort zone and the rules society wants to force you into in order to try something new.
Somebody’s got some sand in their vagina.
Either everything is funny or nothing is
Humour of color
Ftfy
Oh no, please don’t mute me, you mirthless twat.
