I’ve worked 2nd (afternoon), swing (evening), and 3rd (overnight) shifts for the majority of my life. I recently moved into a training position where I’m Monday through Friday, 8am to ~5:30pm (I get OT while I’m cleaning up and writing reports).

As much as the 2nd/swing/3rd shifts screw with your life in other ways, the difficulty in scheduling any kind of life services outside of working hours is maddening. Doctor’s appointment? Nope. DMV? Maybe Saturday, if you’re lucky. Chaperone your kids field trip? Hahahhah no.

I don’t want to burn sick time for a doctor’s appointment (I need to save those for when my kid is actually sick), and I sure as hell don’t want to use up a “vacation” day for it. How tf are you supposed to get anything done?

  • quick_snail@feddit.nl
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    22 days ago

    Block it in your public calendar as “doctor’s appointment” weeks in advance, so nobody schedules a meeting with you at that time. And send an email to your boss so they have it in writing.

    Be prepared to show the receipt to hr the day of, for documentation.

    Other things like friends meetups, laundry, grocery shopping happen after work and on weekends.

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    23 days ago

    I am sorry you don’t want to burn up sick time or PTO… you have no choice, or find a care giver that works on weekends.

    It really sucks.

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    23 days ago

    I have flexible time fortunately, which means I can start later if I have a doctors appointment. I make over hours most of the time so I can use those for these kind of events. Also I reduced my weekly working time to 80%

    It’s a privileged situation, but it is the only way to keep me sane. I can go shopping groceries at 3:30 instead of 5 or go to the gym earlier, it makes huge differences.

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      The job I have now is the first one I’ve had that ever offered flex time. It’s such a treat to be halfway through the day and the boss comes up and goes, “Would you like to leave two hours early?” It’s like being asked if you want free dessert - I have to contain my giddiness, and have yet to say no to the offer.

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    23 days ago

    Sometimes it’s using PTO or sick time (normally I’ve been able to take the time in 2 hour blocks), sometimes I’ve just been able to arrange with my supervisor for an extended lunch break, or just taking an unpaid break during the day and making up the hours later in the day or the week so that I’m not hitting my income or not completing my work.

    Also, there’s reasons dentist offices often open early, or work on the weekends. Other necessary services like that may offer extended hours on certain days of the week.

    EDIT: And things like chaperoning the kid’s field trip? Yeah, you’ll just have to use PTO or not do it. There’s a reason schools usually don’t have many parents volunteer for field trips; most parents can’t get the time off work.

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    23 days ago

    I spend all my sick days and a non-negligible number of vacation days on the kind of chores you can only get done during work hours. Back when we had “Work From Home”, I would also squeeze these tasks in during my lunch break.

    I don’t want to burn sick time for a doctor’s appointment (I need to save those for when my kid is actually sick), and I sure as hell don’t want to use up a “vacation” day for it.

    Well, good luck with that. My retired mother-in-law helps a lot with my son when he’s ill. And we can juggle my son between our individual sick-day allotments such that I haven’t run out yet. But yeah, eventually they’re all just “hours to spend that my boss won’t gripe at me for when I use them”. That’s meant dipping into vacation days when I needed to justify not being on the clock.

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    23 days ago

    We have an “occasional absence” policy where you can take a few hours in the middle of the day for a doctors appointment or such.

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      23 days ago

      My work has this policy too, i just don’t tell anyone when i use it and I’m honest with my hours off the clock to cover my ass if anyone asks.

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    23 days ago

    that’s the point. the capitalists want every minute of your life they can get to work for them, then make you scramble to fit the rest of your life in the gaps. they make more profit and you have less time and energy to educate yourself, think, and organize

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      23 days ago

      That’s why we need strong communities, solidarity and mutual aid. Get the burden off of individual shoulders and make space to organize.
      It’s as easy as asking your neighbours if you wanna take turns cooking dinner for each other or something like that so you have an hour to spare.

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        Especially if you have kids. Who’s going to pay for daycare, insurance, day-to-day needs? You basically become a slave to the company cause you don’t have the choice to quit in order to support family

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    23 days ago

    I don’t get this either. Good fucking luck getting to the bank when you work bank hours.

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      Lol fuck that. It was either a really shit pahing job or a really high paying job. If it was inbetween tat company fuck can jump off a cliff.

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      That’s a weird way to pronounce “we’re an abusive workplace and I advise you to form a union.”

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    Go get a PhD and an academic position. The pay is shit but nobody will care whether you show up or not.

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    DMV (or, our equivalent here) isn’t open on Saturday’s where I live. You have to go during the day 9-5 M-F, which yes, is when most people are working. Same with doctors appointments.

    The companies I’ve worked at are generally very understanding, and allow you to make up time later (which is easy to do especially since it’s remote work) if you have to take an afternoon off, that kind of thing.

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      Which is bullshit. We shouldn’t have to do that. Vacation days should be for vacationing, or at least lounging around doing nothing.