I’m confused, are people really butthurt because it doesn’t look exactly like every other car Ferrari has put out? This is literally not even the first car they’ve put out that doesn’t look like a classic Ferrari. They literally make a SUV now. Sometimes I feel like people are just upset whenever a company that traditionally makes ICE cars all of a sudden start making an EV.
Slapping their name on a dumpy SUV was a a stupid cash grab too. For me, the difference is that I expected it to be a dumpy cash grab to separate mcmansioners from their poolhouse money.
If Ferrari said “we’re going to release a little electric, suburban grocery-getter”, my response would have been “well that looks about right”. Just like with the SUV.
When I hear Ferrari is releasing their “first electric car” my mind immediately starts thinking about what kind of little mean monster they could release with all that torque. I am disappointed when I see what looks like another dumpy cash grab, but this one is for missy mcmansion to take to her first day of college.
But then again, I care for speed alone. The scream of an ic engine is neat but to me, secondary. There are probably plenty of gasheads who are just pissy because “electricity is liberal” or something.
If you can’t understand why “gas heads” prefer ICE cars over EVs, you aren’t a car person. That’s fine, but don’t pretend to know why they prefer ICEs.
I’m not really sure how to respond to this. On the one hand Ferrari went public recently so this should’ve been more expected. On the other hand your use of the term missy mcmansion takes this comment a little too far into the sexist realm for me. I didn’t want to believe that people actually had a problem with this thing not looking “macho” but I guess that’s the world we live in.
In the meantime it can still do 0 to 60 in like two seconds…
It’s not sexist to think it looks like a car for people who want a cute, little compact car that lets everyone know they have scratch. That’s just what it looks like.
“Missy mcmansion” could easily be a young man who wants those things in a car. He will likely embrace the term because he doesn’t think women and their associated descriptors are inherently “less than”. This looks looks like a car for a cute purse, a blowout, and a manicure.
I didn’t use “missy” to denigrate. I used it as marker for lifestyle choices regardless of sex or gender. You certainly picked up on my dripping distaste, but it’s because I think the car looks silly, just like the SUV, and neither fit my lifestyle choices. When I think the big matcho SUV is dumb, am I being sexist?
If it makes you feel any better, I always loved the Miata, because it looks like she’s got skin under her nails, cute but not to be played with lightly, and that fits my aesthetic just fine.
This seems like two unrelated stories. It wasn’t his decision to buy the car, nor did he design it. So it seems unlikely that he’s resigning because people don’t like the design or idea of it
To me it looks more like an iphone than a ferrari
If ford had made it it would be heralded. But it’s just not Ferrari material.
Looks like a Volkswagen
That’s because it was designed by Johnny Ives.
Jon Ive ruined Apple.
This reads like a corrupted Garfield cartoon.
No it wasn’t. He only designed the interior.
I guess I misremembered then. Once I saw this car, my suspicion is that this may have been the canceled Apple car. My theory is Apple saw how much it cost: or something and decided to sell to Ferrari to recoup some of their investment. Apple’s biggest mistake (or saving grace to keep them out of this industry) would have been to not let him design the whole thing and Ferrari was left with this.
There’s no way Apple would have designed something that bad.
You must not remember the beige boxes they had in the 80s and 90s
The Apple from the 80s and 90s, 30-40 years ago, is not the same Apple as in 2026.
And today’s Apple isn’t yesterday’s Apple either or the one from the 2010s. I’m just saying I bet Apple expected another cheese grater or all aluminum design reminiscent of a cybertruck from Ive if they let him design the exterior.
Apple constantly produces crap (unless you are talking about looks). Case in point, every single one of their computer mouses… Even something common sense like placement of the power button eludes them. Their titanium laptops all had flaking paint and failing hinges, etc
They are good at producing good looking items, but, any schmuck could tell them they are overlooking basic BS. The only reason they get away with it, is because they produce a product which SEEMS well manufacturered
Of course I’m talking about looks, as that is literally the only thing people take issue about with this car.
Not a bad look IMHO, but yeah Ferraris tend to be distinct and this isn’t really
Yeah I think it’s a good looking car but it’s clearly not a Ferrari.
Ferrari has one of the greatest design teams in Pininfarina yet they choose a person famous for making a rounded rect to make a totally new product. This is what they get for their poor choices.
Lol it’s so ugly… It’s not that hard to create an EV. Which can also be beautiful.
And of course they chose dookie color to showcase it😂 not even the classic red color Ferrari is known for.
It’s lambo yellow. Xd
Jony Ive only designed the interior of this monstrosity.
Wow, that looks like shit.
Yeah it looks like a receptionist desk
How hard is it to put a battery on a testarossa.
Dumbasses tried to reinvent the evThe newly reissued testarossa has a hybrid EV drive range of like 100km. It’s definitely a start.
Seems like Ferrari would know what a Ferrari looks like. I mean, everyone else does.
There was no reason to make it look so out of place, unless they actually wanted to tank sales. Nothing about its look is necessitated by the EV drive train versus ICE.
That’s not a marketing issue, that’s whoever approved that design. Which, to be fair, may be the marketing boss depending on how their corporate structure is.
I mean, I feel nuts because I’ve complained about so many EVS that look terrible and not like a normal ice car.
Why don’t they ever do retro designs and bring back popular classic looks? An electric F40 would probably sell like crazy.
They just reissued the Testarossa.
And it’s a hybrid.
It’s definitely not possible to create something that looks exactly like that with modern safety design standards but they are being very stupid by not at least trying to evoke that more in their cars.
Then again, as far as I understand it, rich people are completely detached from my idea of good taste. So we might like the classic designs and the companies might know their customers prefer novelty or “the next big thing” over that kind of continuity
Plus the EV platform package they used is basic AF and the battery under the seats means you have to elevate the cabin a lot
Low volume high end cars usually had a lot of overengineered solutions to problems that are now easily solved in modern budget cars by software and new materials/manufacturing. They could come up with a complicated battery system that gives them more design flexibility if they wanted to. They fucking should frankly.
The one in the pictures had a fuel bladder system IIRC. Not as exotic as figuring out asymmetrical distribution of multiple different sized battery boxes, but they did weird stuff to make their cars all the time. That’s the point of exotic cars that look stupidly different from other cars.
Cars are a weird one because they are a big part of the system of why the world sucks and luxury cars are just absurdly expensive status symbols. But fancy cars used to mean cool engineering! I’m even all for keeping most cars running on gasoline so long as there’s 90% fewer cars on the road. Usually online you can’t hate cars (the economic-social phenomenon ) and love cars (cool torque machine living room) at the same time. And I hate that
Seriously marketing has so much power in my company. They dictate what products get developed. Meanwhile my so company they are treated like jesters.
Yeah, true. But to be honest, as the marketing boss he has to defend that bullshit thing and I wouldn’t stand for it as well.
I drive an EV
This sort of shit doesn’t help with idiots hating EVs on principle
In my view, the EV-drivers are the idiots. Although I’d prefer “ignorants” as those can be smart and dumb.
EVs are almost 100% cloud-cars full with surveillance and subscriptions and everything bad that comes with it. Not to say EVs are inherently bad, they aren’t. I would love one, technically speaking. I also love tech and gadgets. But not this level of remote control over “my” car.
I went from Bentley to cheap dumb cars over the years just because they all do it, some more some less. And EVs are the top of the “modern” shit. But the “entry-level” cars are still only filled with the basics. Even haptic buttons and dials (beside a damn touchscreen though).
You will own nothing, rent everything, and be happy about. I won’t.
Modern ICE cars have the exact same telemetry, even at the lower end models now. There are ways to circumvent some of the monitoring by deliberately terminating their antennas however. It really depends on the model though and whatever documentation regular drivers would be willing to share. My EV was modified this way and now I have a tiny reminder on the corner of the console that it can’t connect.
This is all a bandaid of course. We either come up with a gray market of workarounds or we demand legislation to remove this shit in a privacy bill. Considering we have a mandate by Congress starting in 2027 to install AI equipped driver facing cameras to disable the car if the driver even vaguely looks incapacitated shows that it would be a massive uphill battle however.
Terminating antennas doesn’t usually work in areas with good cell service. Traces on PCBs are good enough to transmit/receive to towers unless you’re in a rural area.
Best bet is to remove the modules that control data collection entirely, if you can for your car.
True, ICEs are not far behind the shittiness. But at least you still can buy NEW cars that don’t suck. Ours e.g. now has AC, assheating, rainsensor and android-auto (I know no worthy alternative to being independent to the car’s shitty onboard-system. anonymous account, VPN and dedicated phone.)
And yeah, congrats you could “hack” yours, but it’s indeed bandaid. It’s just a constant battle you’ll loose in the end. Same reason why I gave up on windows and android. I’m tired l, boss.
I went from Bentley to cheap dumb cars
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Youre right in that new cars are all shit. But that goes for ICE and EV.
Rolling surveillance mobiles and unrepairable. Total garbage.
Old (note, old to me means 70s or 60s, but I think younger folks now think 90s is old, so I’ll go with that) was better in every way. I’ll take a 99 civic over any new car today. Though id say about 2012 is peak if you want more comforts (I do not). Really sucks we allowed the government and corporations to fuck up cars so bad.
True, the ICEs grow more shitty from year to year. But the EVs are made to be “the future”. They begin where some ICEs end. Plus you can’t really make a totally dumb EVs.
But yes, I loved progress from manually winding windows to electric, or ACs, and even android auto (on an anonymous account on a dedicated phone). But with “going online” and 99% touch instead of haptic, nope. Go fuck yourselves.
We bought some “cheap” cars to test if it would work too. And sticked with a Mitsubishi. No bells, no whistles, only what we really want/need.
You also cant make a totally dumb ICE anymore with safety and emission regulations. If you buy a new car, it will have all the necessary tech in it to track you and send telemetry. It doesn’t matter how barebone the car looks unless you personally stripped everything down to the metal and remove every electric component that’s not 100% required.
Maybe in the US…here, customers have a tiny bit of rights and protection left. our car has no such nonsense. Expensive crap has been stripped out. In this model you can’t even get any connected features and we already have the top model of the bottom class 😁
If with “here” you mean anywhere close to the EU market, then I have to dissapoint you. An SOS button is mandatory which then also includes a GPS module.
Only applies to brand-new models. Ours does not have this, despite being just made because the model itself is there for a longer time :-) Besides, this thing poses no harm at all. It just sends an MSD to the emergency-hotline. That is absolutely helpful. Why would I, or anyone, mind that?
I do mind telemetry and whatnot going to some nasty corporations without my consent. And subscription-based crap due to a constantly connected car. All Shit I don’t even want but also have to pay for like the obedient lil consumer-filth that they take me for.
You wear your ignorance with such pride
My EV has no subscriptions or anything remotely like that
But, you seem quite keen to use “shit I made up” as a reference, so I won’t bother engaging with you any more
If you would listen very carefully, you might hear the sound of me not caring about that.
I don’t think marketing is to blame here…
depends if there were responsible for the design brief
The electric part isn’t the problem, nor the marketing, it’s the… well yk
Same energy
I think it looks alright, honestly.
Yes, if it was a Kia then it’d be great (at 1/8th the price, maximum).
Yeah, that’s exactly it. It doesn’t seem bad. It just seems out of place based on the price point and clientele.
I also think it looks alright, but if you saw one on the street, would you think it’s a Ferrari?
Yes, because it’s got the giant yellow Ferrari logo on the side of it.
I’ll preface this with the fact that I’m not really a “car person”, much less someone in the market for a Ferrari. I’d say it looks like a Ferrari from the rear more than the front. Isn’t that what you’d expect? It hasn’t got a traditional engine in it, so if you designed the front to look more like a traditional Ferrari, you’d have to design it to look like it has a traditional engine, but then form wouldn’t follow function, so it would be less beautiful by that standard. If I were a really rich person looking to buy an expensive car, which I’m not, I’d think I might consider it.
If I was him, I would too. That thing is a disgrace.
