Florida Republican Representative Kat Cammack was widely criticized after opening up to reporter Tara Palmeri about having trouble accessing abortion for an ectopic pregnancy in Florida after she helped pass a six-week abortion ban in the state.
Cammack told the Wall Street Journal that she faced delays in receiving treatment for a life-threatening ectopic pregnancy shortly after Florida’s six-week abortion ban took effect in May 2025.
Cammack blamed those delays not on the law itself but on what she described as misleading messaging from abortion-rights advocates that had made healthcare workers fearful of legal repercussions, telling the Journal:
“It was absolute fearmongering at its worst. There will be some comments like, ‘Well, thank God we have abortion services,’ even though what I went through wasn’t an abortion.'"
Sometimes I think being too stupid should be punishable by law.
While I get the sentiment, mental retardation was targeted by the Nazis. Given the current situation and the government’s propensity for Nazism, I am disinclined to support that sentiment.
Being a Nazi should be punishable by law.
Stupid is curable, these dumbfucks are willfully stupid, those with intellectual disabilities are unfortunately lacking that option quite often.
shamefully clueless
“It was absolute fearmongering at its worst. There will be some comments like, ‘Well, thank God we have abortion services,’ even though what I went through wasn’t an abortion.'"
‘My abortion is different and special’
Downside: She learned nothing.
Upside: She failed to reproduce.
No abortion is moral unless they require it.
I’m sure you know this, but for anyone thinking this is an exaggeration, Joyce Arthur gathered stories of them telling providers just that almost 30 years ago in the article ‘“The Only Moral Abortion is My Abortion”’ from doctors in the US and a couple other countries, including picketers that come back the day after their abortion to picket the clinic.
It’s in rare cases like this that I wish a doctor could call a patient out on their shit publicly, but I understand that HIPPA privacy is much more important than calling out these fakers
Oh sorry if my post wasn’t clear, this article is exactly what I was referring to. Every woman should have the right to choose what happens to their own bodies.
I assumed it was, I just wanted to make it obvious for anyone who hadn’t come across that article and might have thought you were just being cheeky
Oh no, a few hours delay while they verified that they weren’t going to break Florida’s draconian laws and face criminal prosecution. You should celebrate, the law is working as designed!
You came in that thing? You’re braver than I thought.
Fucking gutter scum.
The sooner we rid ourselves of the conservative/regressive cancer killing our society, the sooner our quality of life improves.
Fuck that stupid cunt.
Actually, don’t do that, she obviously doesn’t understand how anything works.
And all the kittycats go “MUNCH! CHEW! NOM!”
She should be happy she lived. Some don’t.
I’m very much unhappy she lived.
“Misleading messaging” i.e. saying that the law prevents things like this instead of just straight-up shooting a toddler in the face, which is what most Republicans seem to think abortion is. Rot, bitch.
Again I say, the bottom 1/5 of the populations idiots shouldn’t get to vote, I in no way believe we couldn’t make a comprehensive test using international standard to prevent minority group targeting, give those people large ubi (20k pegged to inflation) so they be reppresented, they can act as or strongest consumer and creatives, build buisness and futures(I don’t want them rounded up into camps or anything, I just want them out of federal decions makeing, they can do other things to make society a better place and make they’re mark.) cap assets owned in Canada to 5 billion with a 90% tax rate if you touch this level by the end of the year. And maybe tax v smart individuals a bit more due to there natural advantage (only a bit and not if your broke) finally, if the rich want more they have to push social devolpment if they ever want that total asset cap raised.
I in no way believe we couldn’t make a comprehensive intelligence and decision making ability test using international standards to prevent minority group targeting and peroperly sort out the stupids from everyone else
I do believe that. Especially since whatever organization you task with that can still be bribed or manipulated.
I’m personally partial to a different, more objective mechanism: we already restrict voting and eligibility for office for people that are too young, don’t we? Let’s do that for people that are too old too. Take the life expectancy of a country and anyone that’s beyond that can’t vote or hold office. You’ve already done enough to shape the country, now leave it to people that might actually get to keep living in it.
Yes but this is harder to do and can be tracked, that and the substance of the test would also make it obvious if a group was being targeted
I’m not really confident in what can or cannot be tracked considering there was an island where most of the world’s elites were flying to have sex with little girls and we started having the smallest idea after like 10 years.
The fact that it would be obvious wouldn’t really matter either: first, reality itself has already been denied plenty of times (see the above “my abortion wasn’t an abortion”), and second, even if we all agreed that a group was being targeted… what of it? Would anyone be able to do anything about it? We have a huge list of people who have 100% been on Epstein’s island and therefore at minimum knew what was going on. How many suffered consequences? Is anyone arresting or prosecuting them yet?
Sorry if this comes off as defeatist but recent years really made me lose most of the little faith I had in law and common sense. It feels like people in power WILL exploit any tool you give them for personal benefit and there’s gonna be nothing to stop them.
Well I mean you would be able to tell if a test was flagging one specific group in the same way most people can tell that an iq test is actually reading a person’s pandern recognizing ability under time pressure, many would still notice the discrepancy unlike the island of pedo that were specifically hiding from everyone to avoid scrutiny.
Oh and people from epstine’s Island have faced justice, outside of the USA and isreal…
And no no, your not wrong to be skeptical, I mean look at how many people came out of the wood work to attack me rather then actually engage with the question, what matters is transparency and people’s willingness to hold people accountable.
This is all obviously not going to happen, if I believed this would actually work I wouldn’t be here right now talking about it on this messaging board, I’d be attempting to talk to politicians and the rich but we both know those 2 group depend on these systems to hold power and they’d never Willingly let it happen because it would screw them.
Oh and people from epstine’s Island have faced justice, outside of the USA and isreal…
Eh, the only one that comes to mind is Prince Andrew, apparently Peter Mandelson too but I just found out. Every other person on the list has barely been questioned to my knowledge, and while most of them are American, it’s not all of them.
In any case, it’s just an example of how, even given clear evidence of “something being wrong”, the law ultimately does nothing to most of the perpetrators. And it happens with the police, with giant corporations, with world politicians… I just don’t think anything would actually be done even if it was apparent that the test was discriminatory.
And then of course, as you said, I don’t think this can realistically happen either with our current landscape, we’re just “whatif”-ing on the internet and that’s fine.
I’m convinced most Americans don’t believe in democracy, not just our leaders. Exhibit A:
A. Not an American
B. how is still letting 80% of the population vote not majoritvely democratic,
and C. Your right, I think in a full democracy people are way to easily swayed by emotions and lies. By cutting out some of the more easily manipulated and giving them diff social dutys, I believe this with be mitigated better.
D. A good number of people on this page are liking death threats to the person this is about. But I’m the bad guy for suggesting people who are measurably dumb shouldn’t vote, yah ok buddy.
E. It’s not like they have family or friend that wouldn’t still support and appreciate them or anything, are you saying I’m somehow preventing that from happening?
I did not attach judgement to the observation. But thank you for sharing
Sure, I’m apparently just an example of why a country’s people secretly hate democracy, deff not attaching judgement to anyone making that statement. at least when the others tried to attack me they didn’t try to lamely cop-out when i corrected them in the end 🙄
I must have missed the part where you corrected me (at least beyond not being an American). If anything it sounded like you were offering more evidence. You can attack me for saying the quiet part out loud, however it doesn’t diminish what’s being said.
“Nuh uh, I won’t explain anything” yah later.
If you want me to explain something then just ask. And no, I don’t think you having an opinion that democracy has it’s limits is preventing families or friends from acting differently.
You can’t do a little eugenics without risking Full Blown Eugenics, unfortunately or not.
I’m totally for a basic civics test in order to vote. You should understand what you’re voting for and what it means and why.
even if it was just this, i’d be happy.
And it was easy to decern this and instead of making a proper federally recognised standard you threw the baby out with the bath water and again, I’m seeing people here liking literal death threats to the person this post was originally about, is that better then having a civics test, you people act like you both have all the power and none of it at the same time.
Yeah, yeah, but your scientists were so preoccupied with whether or not they could that they didn’t stop to think if they should.
Can you do anything other then quote other people? What you just posted has nothing to do with that I said.
You fundamentally don’t know what eugenics is, I’m not trying to breed anybody and I’m not trying to get rid of anybody. This is what a real meritocracy looks like
And an asshole to boot!
Me pointing out your wrong about a term is me being an Asshole? Really now. It sounds more like I struck a never in some self contious people and there looking for a fight like you are right now.
They’re probably one of those 20% you mentioned.
Yes but it’s rude to throw that in people’s faces, I’m not saying I’m a genius or anything either btw
Hope you get better soon!
Republican: Starts a fire
Republican: sticks their hand in the fire and burns themselves
Republican: in their panic, they set their entire house on fire
Republican: “THE EVIL GODLESS DEMOCRATS ARE RESPONSIBLE FOR ALL THIS, GOD DAMN THOSE WOKE LIBERAL DEVILS!”
They do it because it works. How often do you see a post where the comments make it clear that most people read the headline, but not the article? If enough people internalize the headline, and passes it on socially, the message spreads like wildfire because we are more inclined to believe news we have heard from known friends and because the article with real information is separated from the conversation and probably difficult for the person to find.
We don’t live in a society based on facts anymore. It’s reactionary headlines playing a game of telephone
“Blame the Democrats” works as a strategy because conservative Democrats will just mirror whatever a more-popular Republican is saying in order to win votes. That’s how Al Gore fucked us all in 2000. That’s how John Kerry fucked us all in 2004. That’s how Hillary Clinton fucked us all in 2016 and Harris fucked us in 2024. Nevermind all the downticket races where some empty suit or partisan hack tries to run to the right by screaming “I hate liberals!” louder than the Republican in the race.
Florida is absolutely flush with “Pro-LIfe” Democrats. It’s not uncommon to live in a blue county in a red state, where liberal municipal officials meticulously enforce fascist legislation on the grounds that they’re powerless to do otherwise.
The end result is Republicans getting away with this bullshit by insisting “We don’t oppose all abortions, just the wrong kind of abortions” and then pointing to the Democrats stuck with the drudgework of enforcing their shitty laws when it comes time to pass blame. Democrats could resist Republican legislation as fiercely as Republicans fight liberal laws in red states and districts. But if they’re just the lackeys of reactionary state government, they’re easy whipping boys.
I’m not a Harris fan by any means, but what did she do to “fuck us?”
I mean, her stance on Israel and Palestine wasn’t great, but it was massively better than Trump.
what did she do to “fuck us?”
Three months campaigning with Liz Cheney, one of the least popular politicians in the country, just for starters.
And shutting down Palestinian voters, saying she’d stick to the Biden plan, not saying no more money, vetos, and weapons for genocide…
Yes, letting the guy who actively supports the genocide win was a much better option. I’m sure she learned her lesson.
I mean… trying to win over moderate, independent, and anti-Trump Republican voters seems like a reasonable approach given the way the current voting system works.
If anything, it seems that Biden and the DNC fucked us by not having a primary. Biden should have committed to a one and done. She may have fucked us by accepting the nomination without a primary, but I honestly blame Biden for that far more.
I do agree that Kamala didn’t help the situation all that much. But I still don’t see how she really fucked us.
I mean… trying to win over moderate, independent, and anti-Trump Republican voters seems like a reasonable approach given the way the current voting system works.
How many elections must they fail to win before it finally becomes obvious that, no, it is not a reasonable approach.
And to really drive the point home, how much did Obama go to the right to win? Or how much did he run on actually trying to improve this fucked country?
I’m a bit confused, are you saying Obama was not center left and occasionally right leaning? I would have sworn he relied on market-based solutions for healthcare, supported for free trade agreements, aggressively used executive military power and drone striked the shit out of the middle east, and the maintained many Bush-era tax rates. He even had a beer with a cop who arrested a black man trying to get into his own house as an “apology” for stating the cop acted stupidity (the cop did) during his first term. So, he went to the right during his actually presidency. Am I mis-remembering these things or something?
I’m clearly pointing out how Obama’s campaign breaks your assertion that you have to go right to win, despite the Democrats losing every election this century when they tried to go to the right.
Obama explicitly campaigned to the left by advocating for policies to make thing better, hence that whole last bit. Whether his presidency veered more towards the right is immaterial to the point at hand.
Also, how much of your paragraph is related to the campaign and isn’t just you trying to find any excuse why your a argument doesn’t hold water? Because we’re not talking about the presidency, that’s you moving the goalposts. This is about the campaigns that were run (and lost!) by democratic candidates despite your incorrect assertion that campaigning right is necessary to win.
trying to win over moderate, independent, and anti-Trump Republican voters seems like a reasonable approach
It consistently failed to win elections
It was how Biden won his election, so… it has won elections. It was just a bad strategy for Harris.
It was how Biden won his election
Biden ran to the left of Sanders in 2020
She ran as a republican
Time for this one again: https://joycearthur.com/abortion/the-only-moral-abortion-is-my-abortion/
Jesus Christ, what a stupid bitch.
In a follow-up interview with Palmeri, Cammack said her experience brought her "down a path of understanding…
Yep. Sounds legit.
Empathy? Never heard of it
These peopleIf Conservatives had empathy they wouldn’t be conservative.
