Some will cheer, some will be mildly disappointed. But I’m out, I think.
My federated social network is ruined.
I’m sorry to see you go but I understand why you feel you need to leave. We’ll miss you around these parts. Take care PugJesus!
I’m sorry if this misses you, but your memes and wonderful breakdowns of history always made me smile. Thank you for everything.
Thank you for everything you’ve done, and for your history posts, I always looked forward to seeing them. The fediverse will be a grayer place without your posts.
Thank you for making fediverse so much more enjoyable all this time. Sad to see you leave, but totally understandable.
Aww man, I’m sorry. You were always awesome, and boy do I understand not wanting to start over. The Fediverse is great in some ways, but the Roguelike Social Media aspect is… not it’s most endearing feature.
I can’t even savescum like I did with ADOM back on my shitty laptop in 2005 DX
Yeah… man, I understand the technical limitations but it sure would be convenient if you could transfer user profiles.
Honestly, as I said elsewhere, I could do it if it was just my user profile. Communities are the real issue. Building up activity to the point where I’m not always the only person posting takes months of constant activity, every time.
I just don’t have it in me again.
Ah, yeah somehow I was envisioning user profiles including communities and… yeah, anyways, I for sure get it. I helped get a bunch of communities started over on reddit back when I was in college, and these days I just don’t have anything like the
adderallfree time that really requires. Much love for the work you already put in, your history posts really were a highlight of my mornings!
Quick! Let’s build an iron curtain to contain him!
Peace, brethren. We need more like ya - and that’s just the problem, getting communities to a critical mass in this medium is kind of unsustainable. Maybe we should go back to forums.
I feel like critical mass is very much possible and sustainable in this medium. I remember watching Reddit communities hit critical mass, and it was generally similar to the curve here, just on a faster scale.
The issue is the instability, and the instability is largely because of poor planning (God love Ernest, and I hear he’s doing better health-wise now, but he shouldn’t have been running the instance basically solo to begin with) and decisions.
The instability is definitely a sour note. I don’t disagree with your choices at all, for the record. I just feel like this format is probably better suited to being run by actual organisations, rather than loners with weird motives.
If there was a nonprofit org (or god forbid, an employee owned company) that ran a link aggregation platform, I’d see that as far more sustainable in human terms. It takes sysadmins, active moderators whose agenda is actually aligned with the mission of the platform, and dance commanders like you (is that a good word for it?) to bolster engagement and build community.
Just thinking out loud here, I’m not trying to talk you into anything or whatever. You deserve some extra free time.
Hosting instances by a nonprofit org definitely seems like a good idea, it’s why after feddit.de happened feddit.org is now in the hands of the Fediverse Foundation
Yeah, I agree. Institutions running instances would be much more reliable. Unfortunately, we play the game with the cards we have, not the cards we want.
Wait are you really leaving?
Yeah. Continuing to post on Piefed.social feels futile, and I just… don’t have the energy to migrate and rebuild my comms again.
I’m not happy about it, and I wish I had more to give. But I also learned a long time ago not to press myself beyond my limits.
Oh nonono, we do not authorize you to leave actually.
thank you so much for all that you gave to us. You were one of the cornerstones of the fediverse and I thank you for all the information you gave us. I hope you have a great life. All the best.
Well, I know I can’t convince you, so, good luck on your life out there! :)
Oh shit I’ll be sad to see you go
I’m really sorry to hear this.
If you ever deicde to try again in the future, please give Piefed.zip a shot.
While I don’t use it (I’m on the sister Lemmy instance, Lemmy.zip), I’ve got nothing but praises for the Admins.
To this day I haven’t seen a single thing to even so much make me think about migrating.I concur, piefed.zip has been my home since lemm.ee went down and so far so good!
Not sure why that’s the last straw? I thought that feature was why we like this place??
Vote limiting was only implemented (or even suggested) earlier this month.
I came to the Fediverse in the hopes of cultivating a non-corporate-controlled forum/social media alternative to Reddit. I came to Piefed.social in the hopes of avoiding the fascist genocide denying devs of Lemmy.
Vote limiting isn’t nearly as bad as fascism or genocide denial. But vote limiting makes my experience significantly shittier, and I’m only here, ultimately, as long as the experience is more good (by my perception) than bad.
Now that the experience is more frustrating than not, my choices are to migrate (and thus, since most of my activity is concentrated in comms that are currently on Piefed.social, moving and trying to rebuild the communities from scratch, for a fourth time in my Fediverse career), or to simply… stop using the Fediverse.
I don’t have the energy to migrate a fourth time, though I wish I did. The thought itself is… crushing in its Sisyphean futility. So… I’ll probably just go back to doomscrolling Tumblr and playing games with my free time, instead of shitposting about history.
Thanks for the explanation, will you just stop using one all together? Or are you going to a different kind of place?
I’ll probably go back to doomscrolling Tumblr and the like. I was a lurker on Reddit for years - while I don’t intend to go back to Reddit, lurking is what my social media consumption was before the Fediverse, and it seems that is probably what it will be after.
That’s completly misinterpretating the purpose and ideas of the vote quota. I don’t understand your reaction on limiting the vote from the top 10% voters.
The voting quota is set above the average vote made by users. So most of users won’t ever reach that limit. That meant 90% of users. For me it’s a good thing to limit our interaction a little and our influence on the fediverse.
But if you disagree with the choice made by piefed’s dev, you can try pylova from quokk.au. she will take a different path than Rimu and it will fit everyone because we will have different flavours of the same software. ;)
That’s completly misinterpretating the purpose and ideas of the vote quota. I don’t understand your reaction on limiteng the vote from top voter.
The voting quota is set above the average vote made by users. So most of users won’t ever reach that limit.
“We want less engagement and participation from the top users on our instance” is still “We want less engagement and participation on our instance”
That meant 90% of users. For me it’s a good thing to limit our interaction a little and our influence on the fediverse.
… so yes, it’s exactly what the meme is saying. You want less engagement and participation on your instance.
But if you disagree with the choice made by piefed dev, you can try pylova from quokk.au. she will take a different path and it will fit everyone. ;)
I’m fucking through. I’ve moved my comms three times, building them up from scratch each time. I don’t have a fourth in me, and the Fediverse isn’t lively enough on my fields of interest for me to go without and just browse, even if I migrated only my account and not my comms.
I don’t have another comm move in me, and I no longer trust the Piefed.social staff going forward, even if this is reversed. It’s too big a breach in trust, and, what’s worse, in-line with prior stated values and thinking. Not just some fluke or half-baked impulse.
I just didn’t think those thoughts and values would be implemented into the fucking instance.
I’m out. I had three years, and they were fun, but this is it. You wanted fewer power users with ‘outsized influence’, enjoy one less.
That sucks man I enjoyed your memes. I get it though. Maybe after some time away you might want to come back, but either way, thank you for your contributions to the fediverse o7
… so yes, it’s exactly what the meme is saying. You want less engagement and participation on your instance.
If we post a lot, why not. Yet we are both the top posters but that’s not a good thing. I think that’s a good way to limit the power we have on the fediverse and let other people express their opinion.
Even if we know jot thing, share lot things, i wouldn’t mind if someone told me to slow down.
And i don’t know where you got this idea that it was different. Since the beggining piefed tell how much hour we are connected and have a blocklist on far right website.
I consider it as part of our wellness to limit use of our screentime. But maybe you need it much more than us to escape this reality and be with the people you love.
I’m fucking through. I’ve moved my comms three times, building them up from scratch each time. I don’t have a fourth in me, and the Fediverse isn’t lively enough on my fields of interest for me to go without and just browse, even if I migrated only my account and not my comms.
That’s both the curse and the joy of free software. I alway moved to follow my values even thought i lose a lot each time. In a sense that’s also why i dom’t blame reddit users, they have enough and don’t want to change. They just want to be there with their friends. Sorry if the recent change didn’t fit your needs. I though a pylova account would be enough for you (not migrating you communities). :(
Maybe you have an alternative idea to suggest to piefed dev but mind that’s not a post quota but a vote quota.
Anyway, i understand if people desagree, i didn’t suggest it but i agree with the core idea, the reasons behind it. If there is a counterargument, i can change my opinion.
If we post a lot, why not
Okay, so you don’t actually think I misinterpreted the vote quota, unlike your original objection.
Yet we are both the top posters but that’s not a good thing. I think that’s a good way to limit the power we have on the fediverse and let other people express their opinion.
Whose opinion am I preventing from being expressed? What finite resource is being used up?
Even if we know jot thing, share lot things, i wouldn’t mind if someone told me to slow down.
By making any comments at all, you’re already in the top 1% of users. Wanna guess how high up you are by making almost (gasp) a whole comment a day?
I think you ought to be muzzled. For fairness sake, of course!
And i don’t know where you got this idea that it was different. Since the beggining piefed tell how much hour we are connected and have a blocklist on far right website.
What the fuck does that have to do with crippling your own growth and intentionally enshittifying the experience of your users?
I consider it as part of our wellness to limit use of our screentime. But maybe you need it much more than us to escape this reality and be with the people you love.
Hey. Father Knows Best, and users are just children, right? Us lowly users need to be told how much ‘screen time’ is ‘appropriate’ for us. Thanks, I’m so glad I’m being parented by a fucking admin while trying to destress from keeping my own life together and powering through local politics on enough anti-anxiety meds to kill a horse. Thanks for taking this from me, this will really improve my mental health. /s
I’m sorry I spend a few hours a day shitposting while I do other things, the same amount of time as it’d take to watch a movie, reading a few chapters of a book, or a few episodes of a TV show in the background. Clearly my crippled ass should be doing ‘real person’ things, like contact sports. And my friends should stop having ‘lives’ and ‘schedules’ and simply be available whenever I’m free (this I agree with, tbf, but is unlikely to come about).
That’s both the curse and the joy of free software. I alway moved to follow my value even thought i lose a lot everytime. In a sense that’s also why i dom’t blame reddit users, they have enough and don’t want to change. They just want to be there. Sorry if the recent change didn’t fit your need. I though a pylova account would be enough for you. :(
If you’re so concerned about the ‘average user’, then maybe you should consider what less ‘power users’ making content will cause the ‘average user’ to do. That is to say, participate even less - or abandon the Fediverse entirely.
But hey, as long as you show those power users what-for, kneecapping your own project is a small price to pay, right?
Maybe you have an alternative idea to suggest but mind that’s not a post quota but a vote quota. Anyway, i understand if people desagree, i didn’t suggest it but i agree with the core idea, the reasons behind it. If there is a counterargument, i can my opinion.
“If there is a counterargument”?
Fuck, there are nothing but counterarguments.
“Why do we want to restrict participation when the Fediverse’s core issue at present is low activity?”
“Why are we restricting something that does not consume a meaningfully limited resource and which is primarily oriented towards boosting the visibility of other content?”
“Why did we not take a basic class in statistics or do a quick fucking search for common activity distributions?”
“What benefit do we reasonably expect to see from this policy?”
A post quota was already proposed, and that’s one of the reasons why I no longer trust Piefed.social. This isn’t a one-off thing, this is an implementation of long-considered values.
PugJesus, you are completely awesome and your contribution to the success of the fediverse is immense. Thank you so, so much.
I can’t believe anyone can be so stupid as to think that stopping the most engaged people being engaged in the community would be in any way sensible. And limiting voting? When you can only ever vote once on each post or comment? Piefed developers: “this popularity really needs capping”.
Have you engaged with a mod/admin ever? They’re usually fucking idiots.
wow, look at that!
the thing I complained about came true.
piefed was just a grift to kill federation.
piefed was just a grift to kill federation.
what
when piefed was publicly released there was a concerted effort to flood lemmy federated platforms. People were writing, now obvious, LLM generated comments about how much better piefed was over lemmy.
I even went as far as to call piefed a cult with how viciously piefed users “defended” piefed.
I warned people that the movements seemed unusual for a new platform and more like a hostile takeover. I was downvoted and told to stfu.
so here we are today. I’m not entirely sure why a social media platform would want to do what piefed is doing other than just attempting to fracture and destroy the federation.
I think that’s less the developer of Piefed than the users on Lemmy who cannot abide their political differences with the Lemmy devs.
The hostile takeover before piefed I remember was the failed forced migration of 196 from Blahaj to .world. And that was by a gaggle of transphobes who ultimately opposed Blahaj’s zero tolerance policy on transphobia. Those transphobes have considered Blahaj to be a tankie instance and all of Lemmy to be tankie since.
And those folks were early adopters of Piefed and were very vocal about it.
The hostile takeover before piefed I remember was the failed forced migration of 196 from Blahaj to .world. And that was by a gaggle of transphobes who ultimately opposed Blahaj’s zero tolerance policy on transphobia. Those transphobes have considered Blahaj to be a tankie instance and all of Lemmy to be tankie since.
… it’s astounding that you think the original 196 mod team, which was comprised primarily of trans folk, left Blahaj because they were transphobes.
