That’s completly misinterpretating the purpose and ideas of the vote quota. I don’t understand your reaction on limiting the vote from the top 10% voters.
The voting quota is set above the average vote made by users. So most of users won’t ever reach that limit. That meant 90% of users. For me it’s a good thing to limit our interaction a little and our influence on the fediverse.
But if you disagree with the choice made by piefed’s dev, you can try pylova from quokk.au. she will take a different path than Rimu and it will fit everyone because we will have different flavours of the same software. ;)
That’s completly misinterpretating the purpose and ideas of the vote quota. I don’t understand your reaction on limiteng the vote from top voter.
The voting quota is set above the average vote made by users. So most of users won’t ever reach that limit.
“We want less engagement and participation from the top users on our instance” is still “We want less engagement and participation on our instance”
That meant 90% of users. For me it’s a good thing to limit our interaction a little and our influence on the fediverse.
… so yes, it’s exactly what the meme is saying. You want less engagement and participation on your instance.
But if you disagree with the choice made by piefed dev, you can try pylova from quokk.au. she will take a different path and it will fit everyone. ;)
I’m fucking through. I’ve moved my comms three times, building them up from scratch each time. I don’t have a fourth in me, and the Fediverse isn’t lively enough on my fields of interest for me to go without and just browse, even if I migrated only my account and not my comms.
I don’t have another comm move in me, and I no longer trust the Piefed.social staff going forward, even if this is reversed. It’s too big a breach in trust, and, what’s worse, in-line with prior stated values and thinking. Not just some fluke or half-baked impulse.
I just didn’t think those thoughts and values would be implemented into the fucking instance.
I’m out. I had three years, and they were fun, but this is it. You wanted fewer power users with ‘outsized influence’, enjoy one less.
That sucks man I enjoyed your memes. I get it though. Maybe after some time away you might want to come back, but either way, thank you for your contributions to the fediverse o7
… so yes, it’s exactly what the meme is saying. You want less engagement and participation on your instance.
If we post a lot, why not. Yet we are both the top posters but that’s not a good thing. I think that’s a good way to limit the power we have on the fediverse and let other people express their opinion.
Even if we know jot thing, share lot things, i wouldn’t mind if someone told me to slow down.
And i don’t know where you got this idea that it was different. Since the beggining piefed tell how much hour we are connected and have a blocklist on far right website.
I consider it as part of our wellness to limit use of our screentime. But maybe you need it much more than us to escape this reality and be with the people you love.
I’m fucking through. I’ve moved my comms three times, building them up from scratch each time. I don’t have a fourth in me, and the Fediverse isn’t lively enough on my fields of interest for me to go without and just browse, even if I migrated only my account and not my comms.
That’s both the curse and the joy of free software. I alway moved to follow my values even thought i lose a lot each time. In a sense that’s also why i dom’t blame reddit users, they have enough and don’t want to change. They just want to be there with their friends. Sorry if the recent change didn’t fit your needs. I though a pylova account would be enough for you (not migrating you communities). :(
Maybe you have an alternative idea to suggest to piefed dev but mind that’s not a post quota but a vote quota.
Anyway, i understand if people desagree, i didn’t suggest it but i agree with the core idea, the reasons behind it. If there is a counterargument, i can change my opinion.
Okay, so you don’t actually think I misinterpreted the vote quota, unlike your original objection.
Yet we are both the top posters but that’s not a good thing. I think that’s a good way to limit the power we have on the fediverse and let other people express their opinion.
Whose opinion am I preventing from being expressed? What finite resource is being used up?
Even if we know jot thing, share lot things, i wouldn’t mind if someone told me to slow down.
By making any comments at all, you’re already in the top 1% of users. Wanna guess how high up you are by making almost (gasp) a whole comment a day?
I think you ought to be muzzled. For fairness sake, of course!
And i don’t know where you got this idea that it was different. Since the beggining piefed tell how much hour we are connected and have a blocklist on far right website.
What the fuck does that have to do with crippling your own growth and intentionally enshittifying the experience of your users?
I consider it as part of our wellness to limit use of our screentime. But maybe you need it much more than us to escape this reality and be with the people you love.
Hey. Father Knows Best, and users are just children, right? Us lowly users need to be told how much ‘screen time’ is ‘appropriate’ for us. Thanks, I’m so glad I’m being parented by a fucking admin while trying to destress from keeping my own life together and powering through local politics on enough anti-anxiety meds to kill a horse. Thanks for taking this from me, this will really improve my mental health. /s
I’m sorry I spend a few hours a day shitposting while I do other things, the same amount of time as it’d take to watch a movie, reading a few chapters of a book, or a few episodes of a TV show in the background. Clearly my crippled ass should be doing ‘real person’ things, like contact sports. And my friends should stop having ‘lives’ and ‘schedules’ and simply be available whenever I’m free (this I agree with, tbf, but is unlikely to come about).
That’s both the curse and the joy of free software. I alway moved to follow my value even thought i lose a lot everytime. In a sense that’s also why i dom’t blame reddit users, they have enough and don’t want to change. They just want to be there. Sorry if the recent change didn’t fit your need. I though a pylova account would be enough for you. :(
If you’re so concerned about the ‘average user’, then maybe you should consider what less ‘power users’ making content will cause the ‘average user’ to do. That is to say, participate even less - or abandon the Fediverse entirely.
But hey, as long as you show those power users what-for, kneecapping your own project is a small price to pay, right?
Maybe you have an alternative idea to suggest but mind that’s not a post quota but a vote quota. Anyway, i understand if people desagree, i didn’t suggest it but i agree with the core idea, the reasons behind it. If there is a counterargument, i can my opinion.
“If there is a counterargument”?
Fuck, there are nothing but counterarguments.
“Why do we want to restrict participation when the Fediverse’s core issue at present is low activity?”
“Why are we restricting something that does not consume a meaningfully limited resource and which is primarily oriented towards boosting the visibility of other content?”
“Why did we not take a basic class in statistics or do a quick fucking search for common activity distributions?”
“What benefit do we reasonably expect to see from this policy?”
A post quota was already proposed, and that’s one of the reasons why I no longer trust Piefed.social. This isn’t a one-off thing, this is an implementation of long-considered values.
That’s completly misinterpretating the purpose and ideas of the vote quota. I don’t understand your reaction on limiting the vote from the top 10% voters.
The voting quota is set above the average vote made by users. So most of users won’t ever reach that limit. That meant 90% of users. For me it’s a good thing to limit our interaction a little and our influence on the fediverse.
But if you disagree with the choice made by piefed’s dev, you can try pylova from quokk.au. she will take a different path than Rimu and it will fit everyone because we will have different flavours of the same software. ;)
“We want less engagement and participation from the top users on our instance” is still “We want less engagement and participation on our instance”
… so yes, it’s exactly what the meme is saying. You want less engagement and participation on your instance.
I’m fucking through. I’ve moved my comms three times, building them up from scratch each time. I don’t have a fourth in me, and the Fediverse isn’t lively enough on my fields of interest for me to go without and just browse, even if I migrated only my account and not my comms.
I don’t have another comm move in me, and I no longer trust the Piefed.social staff going forward, even if this is reversed. It’s too big a breach in trust, and, what’s worse, in-line with prior stated values and thinking. Not just some fluke or half-baked impulse.
I just didn’t think those thoughts and values would be implemented into the fucking instance.
I’m out. I had three years, and they were fun, but this is it. You wanted fewer power users with ‘outsized influence’, enjoy one less.
That sucks man I enjoyed your memes. I get it though. Maybe after some time away you might want to come back, but either way, thank you for your contributions to the fediverse o7
If we post a lot, why not. Yet we are both the top posters but that’s not a good thing. I think that’s a good way to limit the power we have on the fediverse and let other people express their opinion.
Even if we know jot thing, share lot things, i wouldn’t mind if someone told me to slow down.
And i don’t know where you got this idea that it was different. Since the beggining piefed tell how much hour we are connected and have a blocklist on far right website.
I consider it as part of our wellness to limit use of our screentime. But maybe you need it much more than us to escape this reality and be with the people you love.
That’s both the curse and the joy of free software. I alway moved to follow my values even thought i lose a lot each time. In a sense that’s also why i dom’t blame reddit users, they have enough and don’t want to change. They just want to be there with their friends. Sorry if the recent change didn’t fit your needs. I though a pylova account would be enough for you (not migrating you communities). :(
Maybe you have an alternative idea to suggest to piefed dev but mind that’s not a post quota but a vote quota.
Anyway, i understand if people desagree, i didn’t suggest it but i agree with the core idea, the reasons behind it. If there is a counterargument, i can change my opinion.
Okay, so you don’t actually think I misinterpreted the vote quota, unlike your original objection.
Whose opinion am I preventing from being expressed? What finite resource is being used up?
By making any comments at all, you’re already in the top 1% of users. Wanna guess how high up you are by making almost (gasp) a whole comment a day?
I think you ought to be muzzled. For fairness sake, of course!
What the fuck does that have to do with crippling your own growth and intentionally enshittifying the experience of your users?
Hey. Father Knows Best, and users are just children, right? Us lowly users need to be told how much ‘screen time’ is ‘appropriate’ for us. Thanks, I’m so glad I’m being parented by a fucking admin while trying to destress from keeping my own life together and powering through local politics on enough anti-anxiety meds to kill a horse. Thanks for taking this from me, this will really improve my mental health. /s
I’m sorry I spend a few hours a day shitposting while I do other things, the same amount of time as it’d take to watch a movie, reading a few chapters of a book, or a few episodes of a TV show in the background. Clearly my crippled ass should be doing ‘real person’ things, like contact sports. And my friends should stop having ‘lives’ and ‘schedules’ and simply be available whenever I’m free (this I agree with, tbf, but is unlikely to come about).
If you’re so concerned about the ‘average user’, then maybe you should consider what less ‘power users’ making content will cause the ‘average user’ to do. That is to say, participate even less - or abandon the Fediverse entirely.
But hey, as long as you show those power users what-for, kneecapping your own project is a small price to pay, right?
“If there is a counterargument”?
Fuck, there are nothing but counterarguments.
“Why do we want to restrict participation when the Fediverse’s core issue at present is low activity?”
“Why are we restricting something that does not consume a meaningfully limited resource and which is primarily oriented towards boosting the visibility of other content?”
“Why did we not take a basic class in statistics or do a quick fucking search for common activity distributions?”
“What benefit do we reasonably expect to see from this policy?”
A post quota was already proposed, and that’s one of the reasons why I no longer trust Piefed.social. This isn’t a one-off thing, this is an implementation of long-considered values.