Going by comments in the post, the required login is coming in waves, so not all people may notice immediately.
Still, as Reddit is strong-arming its way across, maybe worth signaling to people there that the fediverse may be used without an account, so long as there’s even one instance that implements logged-out view as the protocol allows it?
I don’t have access to my account any longer, possibly VPN ban, though I never tried to recover it so I can only guess why mine is lost, else I’d post myself.
How do you view the lemmy’s logged out? You have to choose an instance or can you irc (or is it icc)it? I don’t really know what I’m talking about so I’m probably using the wrong lingos.
Just go to whatever instance url and you can see what’s on this instance as well as what’s on the instances it federated with. No need to login for reading. You are logged in lemmy.world so check jlai.lu for example.
Thanks!
I think most of the lemmy apps will work right away without logging in.
If I may add, I’d also suggest picking a more generalist instance to have access to a broader range of posts, like lemmy.zip, lemmy.world (yours), or using other softwares, kbin.earth and piefed.social.
I thought kbin closed?
Dunno its history, but Kbin.earth is Kbin in name only, at least nowadays. The instance is powered by the engine’s currently maintened fork, Mbin.
Most of the frontend apps let you browse things unauthenticated as far as I know. You can’t post/comment/vote without being signed up though, of course. You can also visit an instance’s url directly in the browser to look at things unauthenticated. So for your home instance, you’d just go to “https://lemmy.world/” in your browser. For my home instance, you’d go to “https://sh.itjust.works/” in a browser. Etc for the various other instances out there.
I made this firefox extension that might help with the transition. https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/reddit-to-lemmy-reposter/
All files are free and opensource here to do whatever you want with it. https://github.com/jamesey10/reddit2lemmy
I don’t understand how anyone can be an unpaid mod on that site now. Don’t they see articles and headlines about stock prices and shit and wonder why aren’t they getting a cut?
If they are still on Reddit, then they fucking deserve the enshittification.
I’m convinced that at least some of the Aussie subreddits have a lot of “contributions” from lobbyists. As, I quite often see things that don’t seem Australian… Like a lot of weird pro-gun stuff that in Australia we don’t have in our culture.
I’d rather not have them here.
Municipal subreddits and local subreddits are absolutely astroturfed, any hot-button topic would always be flooded by hot shit takes that (before they removed your ability to see post history) would prove to be people running through different city subreddits blasting agitprop
It is actually insane how powerful social media as an unfettered platform is for that kind of manipulation
Reddit is turning into orange Facebook at this point.
God I hope the fediverse gets bigger than it is now
I don’t want to be mean but Reddit has a fuckload of really niche and weird interests and hobbies that I happen to be in that lemmy just doesn’t have.
God I hope the fediverse gets bigger than it is now
Haven’t checked your post history so saying that generically, but hope must be accompanied by action. So to those that have the same feeling, I invite to look for ways they can help.
Start posting then buddy
I actually just got the “You used old.reddit.com you need to log in to view” and decided to see if any more people had adopted Lemmy. It’s more active than it was last time I was here, but probably still not active enough to move most casuals.
I’ll probably come back for the next couple days and re-build my communities, and see if it can keep my attention, but I’m not holding my breathe.
It’s unfortunate that Mastodon has also struggled, I’m glad Bluesky exists as an alternative but it would be nice to see federation more widely adopted by the masses. Maybe in time, with constant growth.
I saw the r/FauxMoi post today about the subreddit being marked sensitive information and de-prioritized by the algorithm and it’s clear enshittification is in full swing, so it’s just a matter of time before Reddit is mostly abandoned.
Mastodon has a decent usercount, but I really wish they would at least put a minimal effort into working with the Threadiverse better. It would be a huge improvement if they just made it so following a group/community didn’t put all of the comments on your main feed. Also rendering the contents of Threadiverse posts instead of just giving you the title and link to it.
https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/17008
https://github.com/mastodon/mastodon/issues/139
Mastodon seems to really not care about any other platforms aside from themselves.
Maybe some other microblogging platform will take over some day, like Catodon.
What Threads is doing is an old strategy of embrace, extend, extinguish.
Google did the same thing with XMPP. When it joined it was welcomed then they introduced incompatible features to encourage existing users to switch to their GTalk. Eventually they “accidentally” broke communication so anyone on XMPP couldn’t talk with users on GTalk and effectively killed XMPP.
I’m confused, I didn’t mention Threads. I think we actually did a good job of keeping Threads out and they already kinda gave up on ActivityPub
Threadiverse = Lemmy+Mbin+PieFed, it’s a term older than Meta’s Threads
Yeah, as you suspected, I wasn’t familiar with that term and wrongly assumed it was about Threads. My bad.
Thanks for the clarification.
This is kind of my problem here. There’s a lot of hobby based communities in Reddit that hasn’t made the move and pretty dead over here so it’s what keeps dragging me back.
But gah, the new style is completely unreadable to me.
same, some tgc games, catching up on drama on certain tgc industry like mtg. PTGC, things that involves plants, animals, and a nich yt channel, location based subs.
Unfortunately the only way to change that requires work. If community is dead it won’t become active unless someone will post there and we might need to be the ones to do it.
If you have some community that you would like, start posting there (if you don’t know content you can copy from Reddit) as long as there is content and people interested in it, it will grow, but someone has to do the dirty work unfortunately.
In the beginning it might be better to create generalized communities that encompass multiple topics so it would be easier to find people. Not start with very specific ones. That’s how Reddit grew.
Exactly there’s a lot and I mean a lot of very specific niche communities that you just can’t find help with issues on any other platform. Especially stuff like health insurance denials and stuff like niche hobbies. I personally am pretty upset because they banned me over essentially nothing. And yes while it is my own fault because I had more than one username and posted in a community that I had been “banned” from a secondary username. I had absolutely no idea they would completely obliterate all of my logins and make it so I absolutely could not use Reddit at all. The IP banning nonsense should be illegal on a platform as big as Reddit, YouTube, Facebook, and Google. When they are essentially the biggest social medias they should not be able to ban you permanently for things that are basically nothing.
Moved over here after I kept getting a popup I couldn’t close pushing their app.
Reddit is finally dead to me. Good riddance.
I’m so sick of everybody and their dog trying to strongarm me into using their app.
You should take his word for it, my dog’s app is in fact the goodest app.
My cat would end me if I took a dogs advice.
welcome welcome, do you know your way around?
FYI, in case you ever absolutely NEED it (people still post actual content sometimes only on Reddit that simply does not exist here on the Threadiverse), YSK that Ublock Origin has opt-in “annoyance filters” that definitely takes care of that popup.
Obligatory fuck spez anyway:-P.
Fortunately AI bots (which they claim this supposed prevent them from siphoning the content) don’t use uBlock /s
Going by comments in the post, the required login is coming in waves, so not all people may notice immediately.
It appears this has become the tried & tested means of choice to minimize pushback. Users frogs in slowly boiling water.
No, just no. Just stay off reddit lmao, not trying to be harsh or whatever but it’s a very simple answer.
there will definitely be some users over there that discover the fediverse and join us, there will also be some that won’t. And we don’t want them all to come, ghislane maxwell can stay on reddit forever from her country club prison computer, for example.
So just keep doing whatever it is you’re doing to contribute to the fediverse, either by being a powermod or just a lurker, and as the fediverse grows and adapts it will attract those it should attract.
Going back and contributing to a website owned by literal trump funders just seems like a complete nonstarter to me.
Idk, tell your IRL friends, discord friends whoever, sure, i just don’t think posting on reddit is the answer to doing anything positive for the fediverse.
Oh she has an unbanned account over there I’m sure
Being over here for about a month I’m finding being kicked out of Reddit isn’t that rare
One of us! One of us!
Her main account (which was once the reddit account with the highest amount of karma) is not banned and still a moderator of many big subreddits
No, just no. Just stay off reddit lmao, not trying to be harsh or whatever but it’s a very simple answer.
I second that!
It’s a similar situation with Youtube. People keep complaining about the enshittification, yet they keep giving their audience to the Google platform. People could argue “Oh, nah, I use Invidious/yt-dlp/Grayjay/etc, I don’t give Youtube my clicks” and this is a very naive take, because in the end of the day Indivious/yt-dlp/etc still rely on Youtube, and these peple are relying on content maintained by Youtube.
I myself have been boycotting Youtube for two years and counting, and I never looked back.
Yes, Youtube and Reddit have gazillions of content. Yes, we’re often unable to find said content anywhere else. Yes, life can become more hard if we refrain from said content. But while we keep seeking their content (even, and especially, through circumvented manners), they will keep enshittifying because they know they have what the complaining people are ultimately seeking and they know people are seeking it so badly. Once we finally stop, maybe, just maybe, situation would reverse and Youtube and Reddit will be the ones seeking us so badly.
those people are the worst, i see them complaining about youtube on the YT subreddit, and they go on defending it when you point out the pervasiveness of rightwing content, and people like mr beast getting views. i was saying which is it, do you like youtube or you dont. and no i wont be logging in to youtube just to curate my feed, google wants this so they sell this part of your data.
I didn’t even know who Mr beast was until last year That’s how much I don’t watch YouTube
The only thing I use YouTube for (and I can’t believe people use it for anything other than) is tutorials. Like I need to replace the window actuator in my car and I can look it up how to do it and there’s a video. I can’t believe people watch you tube like a streaming service. It’s kind of mind-blowing to me that people watch as much as they do. Like literally the only thing I use it for is tutorials.
We definitely need the 1.0 release of Lemmy now more than ever… Keep up the good work devs btw!
Yay devs!
Good thing piefed.social is following in reddits footsteps! Oh wait that’s really bad
I’m out of the loop. What are they doing…?
Trying to recreate a worse version of reddit karma and locking their instance behind a login page/requiring an account to view anything
slightly less worst than fb, fb would block people unless they login.(there is a workaround with ublock though.
I just opened piefed.social in a private window and it works fine
Was not like that yesterday
CCP-style shadow profiling, among other things.
If someone sees an instance requiring an account to do anything on they’ll think anything using that software will require one.
Also almost like the point isn’t about if you can host it yourself or there are other instances when the main dev is literally doing what everyone is angry reddit is doing 🤔
Oh, this is about the login wall?
lol that was just a temporary measure to fend off the scrapers. They’ve been really bad the last couple of weeks, especially.
I’m testing out a custom-built Anubis now, that should mean we can do without a login wall.
datamining perhaps, i would be wary too.
In what way?
I can’t say otherwise you would call it harassment and push for all instances to ban me/anyone else that explains it again
You know, the ways you’ve been told. Are you this dense?
What is this ‘reddit’ you’re talking about? /j
Why bother, if they want a good community they will seek one out. Growth isn’t necessarily good for this place.
we at least need to make sure we don’t shrink, which can sneak up on you and be difficult to stop, better to maintain some growth
Also we need a stream of new users to replace leaving users (there will always be churn), especially when an instance goes down many users won’t signup again
we do need growth because its quite stagnant and contracted since instances keep disappearing. the problem with reddit is they allow alot of botting, astroturfing going on. with the last big instance shutting down i noticed it became super stagnant.
I’d say the fediverse is somewhat protected against the drawbacks of growth in a way Reddit isn’t.
eh, kinda? Decentralisation means one instance can learn from the failures of another, and there’s bo one thing that can bring the entire Fediverse down. But that’s a worst case scenario.
What I fear is this: A spike of interest in the fediverse leads to many instances being overwhelmed, and the general newbie experience quickly turns many people away, leading to lots of people leaving with a sour taste. In the meantime, instances successfully adapt and new ones spring up, but most users aren’t coming back.
Imo that’s a more realistic scenario than some grandiose failure, and you could say it’s already happened several times.
A spike of interest in the fediverse leads to many instances being overwhelmed
they could just disable signups when they get too many users, or maybe use an invite system to limit signups
Well yeah, that’s what being overwhelmed means
It’d be a good way to get people to spread out and make sure they don’t all join the same instance
Blåhaj has that, works pretty well
As long as instance owners can handle the traffic, yes.
Overgrowth certainly would have some drawbacks, but stagnation probably isn’t good either
I find the fediverse to be quite lively (more than reddit) even if it doesnt have 5 posts a second. Quality > Quantity. Would rather have 1 good post that gets engagement than 10 shitposts nobody ever sees.
Bump. (he he he) :p
goes back to lemmy where every 10th post is a shitpost about beans
I agree, make the place too big and it will become unmanageable the same way it went for reddit.
