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  • pticrix@lemmy.ca
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    1 month ago

    Wild to call out a character that suffers from neck-down alopecia. Waow.

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        Eh it’s over twice the length of the original BBC one. I wouldn’t have minded seeing more. But it ended at a good spot at least. Honestly surprised it lasted that long with Elijah in it post LOTR.

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    There’s this story that Mark Hammil tells about being on the set of Star Wars and he mentions to Harrison Ford that their hair should be wet, since it was just wet in the previous scene.

    And Ford says something like, “This ain’t that kind of movie, kid. If the audience is talking about our hair, something has already gone wrong.”

    • Courtney (she/her/they) @lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      Ford’s attitude about the films has always just pissed me off. If you don’t like something, which you clearly don’t, why you do it in the first place?

      Hell, I’d argue his career wouldn’t be what it became without star wars and he should at least be able to acknowledge that.

      He always just comes off as “I’m better than you, I’m better than this franchise, I’m better than anything”

      Christopher Eccleston famously hated Dr who, and he never seems to say a negative thing about it. Plenty of MCU actors hate the MCU, they don’t talk shit, and I can’t see them talking shit about them for several decades either.

      • Blue_Morpho@lemmy.world
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        Christopher Eccleston famously hated Dr who

        its my understanding that he hated Russell T Davis because Davis was abusive to the staff.

      • turtlesareneat@piefed.ca
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        Ford struggled with anxiety and imposter syndrome early on, and developed his tough, flippant exterior around that as a coping mechanism. So there are a lot of stories about him saying callous, tough guy things. But he’s quite a softie who really loves the art of acting, so I don’t think he’s really dismissing everything and everyone outright.

      • VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world
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        1 month ago

        I think Ford’s attitude is similar to Guinness’ attitude - it’s not that he hates Star Wars, it’s that he hates that it’s completely overshadowed his other work and nobody ever talks to him about any other part of his career.

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            And fucking ACED every one of them.

            That’s the sign of a consummate professional. You show up and you do it anyway, and you nail it.

            Famously, Agatha Christie hated Hercule Poirot, yet she still wrote him into some of the best detective stories in the world.

      • Ann Archy@lemmy.world
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        MCU is genuinely mass market slop though. I cannot believe people watch that drivel, and I judge people who do. That’s all I have to say on the matter, good day, Sir, I SAID GOOD DAY.

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      I actually really like that line. I remember watching the latest Star Wars trilogy and just nitpicking. I’m not a super fan, I don’t even own anything Star Wars. But, the movies kept pulling out stupid takes that my suspension of disbelief was gone and I kept focusing on hyper details.

      I also like that Harrison Ford calls everyone kid.

      • BillyClark@piefed.social
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        Mark Hammil does an excellent Harrison Ford impression, so there’s a possibility that the “kid” is part of the impression, rather than a direct quote. Also, I was doing the quote from memory, so I might have remembered it wrong.

        But I also like the thought that Harrison Ford calls everyone kid.

      • Ann Archy@lemmy.world
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        Please remember that Star Wars was released in 1977. It absolutely blew people’s minds because they were doing something that nobody had ever seen before, to an audience that was just perfectly ripe for receiving it. It would have been impossible for them to cover every single base, when they were doing such ground breaking things, you kind of have to see it in the light of that, like you would watch Metropolis by Fritz Lang, or Nosferatu.

        You can’t nitpick it the same way you can Marvel slop in 2026, there was so many ground breaking things, most of all it was a genuinely alien experience because we hadn’t really seen such a well designed intergalactic society and world building before, that all the minor stuff is just afterthoughts to what the greater story was.

        It’s like finding flaws in a renaissance painting, or the Iliad, or classical opera- which is a fitting comparison considering SW is the definition of space opera, down to containing one of the most genuinely masterful, memorable, and well crafted scores of all time.

      • SpaceCowboy@lemmy.ca
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        Rise of Skywalker gave everyone what they wanted.

        If you watched it wanting a fun action adventure movie, it gave you what to wanted.

        If you wanted a movie you could nitpick and complain about on the internet, it gave you what you wanted.

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    Forcing actors to grow body hair in their more intimate areas should not be a virtue. That’s weird and over the line and you should be ashamed.

    It’s a movie. It’s not a realistic story and shown through a camera, not someone’s real eyes. Suspend your disbelief or leave.

    • Xerxos@lemmy.ml
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      1 month ago

      This, and I hope that it wasn’t a body hair fetish that triggered this post.

      • velma@sh.itjust.works
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        1 month ago

        God forbid women want to be more accurately represented in media. Noooo, it has to be a fetish.

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        Exactly, but even so, it’s an actors job, many lose weight, gain muscle, grow hair, lose hair, all the time for the role. Such a strange thing to be angry about, let the actors decide themselves lmao. What’s with the new trend of people getting offended on behalf of others?

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          It’s ok if they do it. It’s not ok to be mad if they don’t go far enough. Are you going to cripple the house actor for realisms sake?

          Creating these demands and expectations is not ok.

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              Thanks. Thought they said the actor should just do all the afformentioned things.

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            You are forgetting that acting is a job. One the actors have the freedom to decide and negotiate their terms.

            It’s perfectly reasonable for a character to have armpit hair, even if that personally offends you.

            The actor can decide what to do with the director or whomever. You dont need to project your own opinions onto some random actor, they have their own.

            Also, it is absolutely fucking okay to expect consistency in a film/show.

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              1 month ago

              I don’t expect them to have shaven armpits. I do not care either way. It’s a weird thing to notice anyway.

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    Not everybody’s armpit hair is dark black and long and curly. This is what my spouse’s armpits would look like whether they had shaved recently or not.

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          The discussion isn’t around the differences in people’s body hair. It’s about media’s representation of women’s bodies.

          Your comment would have more of a point if it was commonplace to see unshaved women in media.

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            If it was common place to see unshaved women then my comment wouldn’t have made any damn sense. My comment is only relevant because there are people who don’t shave and yet still look like they do.

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              The most likely reason the actress was portrayed as unshaven was because women are overwhelmingly presented as hairless in media. Not because some people have naturally light hair.

                • velma@sh.itjust.works
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                  I already explained why I replied to your comment - the reason this actress is portrayed as hairless is because we live in a patriarchal society that has strict gender expressions for women and that includes being hairless.

                  I wish that the conversation could be around the differences in people’s bodies instead of the media presenting a very specific image of how women are supposed to present.

            • CalypsoGirl@lemmy.today
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              Anyway I just had a tangential thought: my opinion of women showing off their armpit hair is identical to how I would feel about anyone who never wipes their ass after they shit. Both equally vomit-inducing. Just my opinion.

  • Buffalox@lemmy.world
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    IDK it says BBC America, so I guess the explanation is quite simple.
    It’s because Americans are crazy. An having perfectly natural hair under her armpits would be unacceptably disgusting for an American audience.
    While torture, killing and poor hygiene is not.

    • NOT_RICK@lemmy.world
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      1 month ago

      Or this actress didn’t want to grow out pit hair for a comedy show. Not everything is that deep

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        1 month ago

        Which goes back to the above: “Americans are crazy. having perfectly natural hair under her armpits would be unacceptably disgusting for an American”

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            1 month ago

            As an American woman with armpit hair, I get a lot of unsolicited comments.

            It would be nice if there were more representation of adult women’s bodies in media.

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          Wouldn’t want to accurately portray women’s natural bodies lest they think it might be acceptable to be unshaven.

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            Natural body is a polite way of framing ungroomed. Men nor women like seeing poor hygiene. Some types of poor hygiene are seen as worse than others. Dirty hair? Sorta gross. Body hair? Disgusting.

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                I mean, I’m morally consistent on this one in that I think everyone looks better smooth. Yall can be hairy if you want though.

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                  It’s a great way to filter out men who don’t deserve access to my body.

                  My sex life never diminished when I stopped shaving.

                • Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                  My husband loves my hairy body. 🤷‍♂️ Finding hair disgusting and unsanitary isn’t a natural state for men, it’s something you’ve been taught. Clean hair isn’t unhygienic.

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                Isn’t that for you to decide? I know gay men who think facial hair is disgusting. Some like it. Regardless, I don’t get to tell my audience what they like, which is what you’re trying to do.

          • Courtney (she/her/they) @lemmy.blahaj.zone
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            Or maybe she, the actress, prefers it, and she, the actress, didn’t want to change something superficial for the show.

            Personally I don’t like body hair. It’s coarse and irritating.

            • velma@sh.itjust.works
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              I still believe there should be more representation in media of women with body hair.

              We should normalize picking what’s best for each person individually and not trying to portray a certain way that women are “supposed” to look.

              Funnily enough, I personally prefer body hair because it’s softer than stubble. But that’s my personal preference and not one I tell others that they should do just to please me. (not saying you are doing this, just putting thoughts to words).

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                Fiona Dourif did a fantastic job portraying Bart in this show. If being clean shaven is how they wanted to appear on screen, I think their right to do so supersedes any obligation they have to ‘normalize’ anything for anyone else. It certainly did not harm the performance.

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                  I’m not criticizing their performance or their individual choices.

                  I’m criticizing how the media wants to portray women as completely hairless all of the time.

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    I think the joke was more that she doesn’t know what fruit shampoo is. She was excited to shower, she knows that bathing is even if she doesn’t do it often.

    Does that mean she’s removing body hair? No, I get why it seems inconsistent. I do think humans have a very diverse expression of body hair and some people have barely any visible body hair even if they don’t remove it.

    If I want to appear hairless I need to shave daily (or more, dark hair on pale skin RIP) whereas I have friends who appear hairless on their legs and armpits unless you get really close. No, it’s not from waxing or laser, it’s just the texture and colour of their body hair.

    I’m not trying to suggest this is definitely what is going on here and it would be nice to see a wider expression of appearances in media. Maybe then we’d get over the narrow view of “acceptable” body hair.

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      My ex gf never had to shave anything because she had alopecia. Looked completely normal from the neck up but from the neck down the only place she grew hair was in the crotch, and even that was thin and faint.

      Her legs and pits were naturally hairless.

    • velma@sh.itjust.works
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      You’re not wrong.

      There’s literally a comment in this thread that pointing out the hairless pits must be because OP has a hair fetish. EDIT: There’s now 2 comments sexualizing this topic.

      Everything is sexualized with women’s bodies. Removing hair is not exempt from that.