Funny how much the yanks bring this up to distract from their own food culture.
Don’t be too harsh on them, the second great war is the only time most of them got a holiday outside of the country.
The Bude Tunnel wasn’t even finished yet back then.
Nonsense. You can’t bite into an American meal without immediately tasting a wonderful selection of flavours, like:
- salt
- corn-derived sweetener
Ive had many great meals in the UK and less so in the USA
ITT people believing the self-deprecating jokes white cultures have been telling about themselves are actually 100% true
Do the “white people cant herbs and spices” joke have anything to do with the colonels secret recipe and the black-guy-love-fried-chicken bit?
No, KFC isn’t what anyone would consider spicy. The black people and fried chicken thing is a separate stereotype.
It’s not that though. It’s Americans doing the same overused “joke” about UK, completely different country. You can’t self-deprecate another culture.
White Americans say the same thing about themselves - that they don’t use spice. Salt is spicy, they love mayonnaise, etc.
Well, those memes aren’t saturating the space
Heard plenty of fellow white people make these jokes…
You mean in this post or irl?
There are several comments about Americans here. And as far as the real world, it’s a very well known trope in America. So much so, it became a news story in the 2016 election, when Clinton was accused cultural appropriation for claiming she always carries a bottle of hot sauce in her purse.
Everywhere. Not saying it’s not happening, everyone does a bit of self-deprecating humour some times. But the amount of slander Americans do against non-americans is just on another level.
There’s somewhere between 10 and 20 spices in the food pictured, why do you think its orange?
onions and tomato
I mean the beans mostly get their color from the molasses and sugar but lots call for Worcestershire sauce which is going to have a bunch of stuff.
Baked beans outside North America don’t have molasses, and generally only a small amount of sugar (if any). The colour in British baked beans is from tomatoes.
Tomatoes are my favorite spice
Bean juice?
Use sparingly:
Salt
Pepper
BBQ rub seasoning from ???
Onion powder
Garlic salt
Misc. dried Italian herbs you’ve owned for years
Anything else left in your pantry
sparingly
onion
garlic
Garlic and onion seasonings are measured with the heart, not the brain.
Camping advice from a feral Redneck, throw garlic and onion powder in your pack. It’ll come in good if you need a bit of oomph for your food, or you pull a me and over season the unholy amalgam of top ramen noodles and flavoring, chili, mac and cheese, and a hot dog tasted meh but the calories meant I didn’t need to eat for 30 hours so it was fine.
“spices”, in this context, is Obese American for " salt, butter, and bacon grease"
my dude have you ever gotten a sandwich in Ljubljana? It’s bread, salt, butter, and bacon grease. that’s it. And they’re fucking amazing. I don’t think europe has any room to criticize.
The bread in Europe isn’t drowning in sugar like American bread though
I don’t know from what American bread you’re taking about. Subway? Wonder Bread? I know one person who likes them and doesn’t eat them out of economic necessity. He just got out of the navy and we are working on training his palate on real food.
Sourdough? Tiger bread? There’s a sandwich shop I eat at just for their focaccia. Fuck I wish I was eating there now. They didn’t ímport those. Might have imported the floors.
Almost all non-artisan store bought bread in the US uses sugar in some degree to feed the yeast.
oh i’m a bread snob i eat artisan bread exclusively
my first job was right next door to this amazing bakery and it ruined bread for me. fuck. i need some broetchen.
That’s one thing that’s hard to explain to Europeans - the US has good food, some of the best in the world.
It’s just not the usual fare, and you will pay so much for it.
There’s great artisan bakeries - but here in Barcelona, every bakery has good fresh bread without additives for a euro or two right by your house. In the US, same things would take a specific car trip and cost much more.
People think Britain doesn’t use spices. Read Mrs Beeton’s recipes from the 1800s. It’s ALL the herbs & spices - all spice, curry, chilli, cardomom, fenugreek, ginger, mace, nutmeg, pepper, saffron etc. British cooking really hasn’t changed that much if you look at it in its entirety.
Sure, privately and those who have time. But the public houses aren’t going to stock a full cabinet of spice, replacing a spice cabinet is spendy.
The evidence is out there to see. Perceptions may be distorted by the hardships the UK suffered of rationing during WW2 and after. But the reality is that herbs and spices were always important and still are.
The tragedy is that many of the spices most jealously traded for became so integral to British and international cuisine that memesters don’t even realise that they were ever unusual or expensive. I guarantee you that those baked beans have a bunch of black pepper in them and guess what… pepper don’t grow in Britain! It’s in more or less every single kitchen thanks to a global spice trade that is now forgotten. Ginger is a main flavour in many British recipes and also doesn’t grow in Britain.
But Britain was in fact not that big a player in the spice trade, being beaten by the Dutch, who got there first and had better financial backing. The British East India Company tried to make its way by raiding ships of the Dutch East India Company but after a bunch of wars eventually had to settle for less exciting endeavours - trade in cotton being a staple.
The Dutch are themselves not renowned for their food either, though it is my firm belief that every country has great food if you’re willing to look past your prejudices, and stamppot is great.
There’s some fantastic dutch food!
I just wish long pepper was more widely known, I can get it easily from Indian shops in the UK but it’s not so widely known or available. It’s among my favourite spices, think black pepper but way more aromatic and ‘flowery’. It was known to the Romans but fell out of favour many centuries ago in Europe.
I bought some to make some old recipes (from Tasting History, which I imagine is a not-insignificant driver of online types having long pepper…?) but had to go online. The local place I go to for spices also didn’t have lovage or savoury - tsk!
Haha guilty as charged, him and Historical Italian Cooking both introduced me to it.
One thing that’s somewhat more annoying to get hold of is Colatura di Alici, the garum-like anchovy sauce. You more of less must order it from Italy and ship internationally. Absolutely top-tier stuff though, I use it in modern dishes too. I can see why it was so popular.
Did you ever compare it with asian fish sauce (I think Thai fish sauce is most common in the west, but many other east-asian/south-east-asian countries have it)?
What do you guys think tea is made of?
Dammit Hony, now I need to order yet another good Darjeeling Fall leaf tea…
Haha, with such a reply I might have to get one myself to try. I love tea.
Yeah that’s definitely not matcha.
We only got them to stop the Dutch getting them.
Anyone shit talking fish fingers is going to get a visit from me and my sledgehammer in the middle of the night. You’ve been warned!
Leave my motherfucking fish fingers out of this!!!
I have eaten fish fingers in the UK and fish sticks in the US. The UK ones are delicious. This meme is not from someone who has ever eaten them.
You, I like you.
Fish don’t have hands. Where do the fingers come from?
… you don’t want to know
Fish fin
gers was just added on as time went by
Neither does mozzarella but who doesn’t love dipping fried and breaded mozzarella fingers into some marinara.
Fingers are for sticking in something, including but not limited to mouth.
Do you like fishdicks?
Britain stole all those historical artifacts and culture but couldn’t steal a recipe.
We’ve stolen lots of recipes. Modern British cuisine is basically a massive rip-off of every other country’s cooking smashed together.
Fusion, if we’re being polite about it.
I dated a British girl in high school. She microwave broccoli in water. No salt or seasoning. No butter. No nothing.
She took it out, drained the water and told me her dish was done.
That was the last time she made anything for us.
Sounds like me, except I would drink the broccoli water.
Once you reset your palette, cutting out excess salt and sugar and cheap fats, and processed foods, you learn to enjoy the taste of whole foods all on their own. Salted ourselves to taste, which is far less than processed food will add.
…there’s gotta be a healthy solution somewhere between industrially processed meals and plain microwave-boiled broccoli
No! If you don’t take an extreme stance on this topic, you might be seen as boring!
The fact that you think it can only be one or the other is really fucking sad.
A toaster oven, or regular oven I guess if you’re fancy, some olive oil and a sprinkling of red chili flaked will get you done delicious roast broccoli (400°F/205°C for ~15 minutes)
Oil makes a huge difference. Or butter. Even fat drippings, like turkey gelatin from cooking one.
the biggest mistake of vegan food is that it uses too little fat in most cases, i think
because “health”. meanwhile plant oil is actually healthy
Yeah but… microwaved? Just switch that for an oven and we might have terms.
Microwave is brilliant for cooking broccoli. I want it fast, fresh and moist. You kill the flavour and the nutritional value by overcooking it in an oven.
You can put it in a bit of water on the stove for a few minutes and get the same result too, without overcooking it. I know microwaves are faster though, but I have a different appreciation of time I guess…
Yeah I use my hob (British for stove) when I have a larger quantity to do. It’s also an excellent way to do it.
I feel like I’m missing something, was her task not to cook the broccoli? What is meant by “dish”? It is just broccoli? Am I Bri’ish?
That doesn’t sound all that bad? Not everything needs to be salted. Broccoli in and of itself has a nice flavour, imo
I don’t know. I normally bake or sauteed my broccoli. Never heard of microwave boiled.
Walking down a high street in the UK. I smell loads of spices from even the shit takeaways.
curry doesn’t count.
Then burgers don’t count for Americans either then. They’re a German invention
Why not? If that is the case then American cuisine is limited to corn syrup and growth hormones.
Because including any kind of Anglo infusion cuisine would go against the narrative that food in the UK is bad.
Lol. You went to Florida and only ate fast food, didn’t you?
No, because if you deny everything British that is similar to something else you must do the same for everything American. Doesn’t leave you with many options.
So it is the case?
Take it a step further then. Why does Italy get modern pizza? Tomatoes are not native to Europe.
Because they send a dude over to liberate the tomato from those silly Americans that were just wasting it’s potential!
There’s more than one American cuisine. Southern, Northern Mexican (Cal-Mex, Tex-Mex, etc), New York (basically fusion of Jewish and Irish in a few things), American Chinese, etc.
American fast food is common, but not the whole thing.
Nope, if Britain can’t have anything similar to another culture then America can’t have anything Irish, Jewish or Mexican either.
or Mexican either.
Uh ‘Mexican’ isn’t indigenous either . . . it results from the fusion of Native American, Spanish, and French cuisines, among others.
And there isn’t a single Mexican cuisine either, there’s multiple.
There are some indigenous mexican peoples still around, and with that their cuisines.
A minority cause of all the invading and pillaging done by Europe and America, but they’re still around.
Latest census data: 11,800,247 self-identified Indigenous Mexicans (9.36% of the total population of Mexico)
I’ve got a recipe from my Ojibwa neighbor’s Grandmother for roasted grouse made with nothing more than honey, salt, and cranberries roasted in duck fat. Served with wild rice cooked with cranberries. The subtleties of the dish will blow your mind. It makes delicate Japanese dishes look like all show and no go flavor. The smokiness of the hand parched wild rice set against the tart cranberries is to die for. A meal meant for kings, (And Queens if you swing that way)!
And she can’t get enough potato klub, lefse, and lutefisk when I make those Norwegian dishes I learned from my Grandmother and Mother.
It’s like there is no accounting for food tastes.
The rest of the world thinks that Britain doesn’t use spices, what we don’t know is that for some reason, we seem to use them in our confectionery.
We really like ginger.
I like Gingers as well.
Ginger is tasty
The British eat so much Indian food it’s crazy. There’s a Nando’s on damn near every corner in London.
Nando’s is South African
South African and Portuguese fusion food.
The history is that South Africa had a lot of Portuguese immigrants during the Portuguese civil war, and that then made a whole new cuisine that’s a fusion of South Africa and Portugal.
And the owner was from that region, and brought that cuisine over to England, big hit, made a chain of it
I think they were connecting two seperate cuisines which heavily feature spices, not goving Nandos as an example of indian food.
It’s just like how in America there is a Mexican restaurant in every small shitty town.
But there’s also Mexican food in the nice towns too
And Chinese and interestingly Indian food is catching on also.
i think in germany it would be turkish food?
It’s specifically Kebabs. They cornered the market of fast-food completely. Not the regular restaurants though, those are all Vietnamese.
those are all Vietnamese.
and we are all better off for it
Oh very much so. I’m a huge fan.
I’m assuming those are meant to be unrelated statements?
Cause Nandos is Portuguese-African fusion food
:-p My mistake.
But it’s generally spicier than beans on toast, is my point
