Less than 5mins long, Shoebridge explains and puts in a nutshell where we are now (and where that will take us) and what we need to do for a decent future.
Let’s get active!
I think labour are doing a good job, the greens want a perfect world where they get all they want.
Admitadly their goals are good, but the cunts won’t compromise on goals.
If you have mediocre or fake goals you get trashy results plus you confirm that you are a cog in a machine that will not listen and/or you know that you’ve sold yourself. If you have decent, authentic goals together with others you can respect yourself and keep working towards them. You can compromise until you become a hollow echo.
I, too, want a government that provides for its people and stops pretending it cannot.
Some goals are too important to compromise; many of those are in the Greens party platform.
Do you have important poltical goals you think should be open to compromise?
God I’m sick of this line
Labor can’t pass good policy without the Greens
They can’t pass bad without the Coalition.
I’ll vote those Green senators in again to do the same again; get better policy, stand up for the disadvantaged and stand against foreign policy spinelessness
Do you have an example in mind of something you think they should compromise on but haven’t?
Remember when shorten said lets remove negative gearing and tackle inequality and Scotty held up a piece of coal. People voted for the coal. Its not all about the party. Democracy means stepping up. I am surprised Labour has risen above the line again on this matter given the beating they got before. Greens have some great and defined policies, but people wont vote for them. They didn’t in good times so they certainly wont in tough times.
We don’t know for sure.
I’m an past green’s voter who has fallen off. Their policies don’t go far enough and will always be subject to the requirements of capital. The Socialists recognise there is really one war. There’s only one enemy. An injury to one. Is an injury to all and we know that Australians don’t just deserve the right to life, they have the right to a good life.
Yes, and not just Australians.
This is such an onerous situation. if we follow the current democratic model how can voting Socialist help us to get to that society we’d like to see?
The ultimate goal is to build a new constitution that serves everyone equally. There’s lots of ways to do it, winning electoral power is just one part.
Please provide a link to any information re what you say. I’d like to educate myself.
greens views on ukraine will mean they lose many …
It’s a naivety of theirs, but they’ve held firm on arms supply since forever.
It’d be nice if people judge the whole package and distribute passes based on how they do the same with the majors, because by pretty much every metric the Greens are better and there no questioning Shoebridge’s spine.
With this one thing, they still overwhelmingly represent us.
Yes, political parties in democracies can be very disappointing so you always have to chose the least bad. But being a tankie party is unforgivable. They are saying exactly what Putin & Xi want them to say.
Their view makes a lot of sense and it has to be explained properly to people. (I’m no fan of Putin’s Russia but the war would have not commenced if NATO & co had not been threatening Russia’s borders for a long time before the war with Ukraine started. Russia kept warning and warning to stop the threatening behaviour but they kept on.)
The Greens back the provision of
“basic humanitarian and civil assistance” to Ukraine, and support for anti-corruption efforts, but the party opposes global weapons transfers as a matter of principle.
The party would support providing military aid to Ukraine if it were backed by a United Nations Security Council resolution, he [Shoebridge] said, but Russia would use its veto power on the council to block any such move.
The party would support providing military aid to Ukraine if it were backed by a United Nations Security Council resolution, he [Shoebridge] said, but Russia would use its veto power on the council to block any such move.
So whether he supports Ukraine with military aid depends entirely on whether Ukraine’s direct opponent and the aggressor, Russia, decides to support it too? Genius logic!
It’s not his logic, it’s the party’s policy in relation to the UN Security Council. The party will only provide military aid to Ukraine (or any other country) if it is backed by the UNSC.
