Haha, won’t get us all. BEEP-BOP MOTHERFUCKERS!
What did you say about my computer’s mother?!
is it true, though?
Depends on what you call bots. Yandex is a Russian search service, so it needs to constantly crawl the web, just like Google or god forbid - DuckDuckGo. This traffic is 43% down, and not what Lemmy calls bots.
I don’t think DuckDuckGo does any crawling, it just searches Bing for you.
DuckDuckGo is just over 9000 Microsoft Edge running in background
Yes. It’s hard to prove because ruzi trolls are mostly real people with 24 phones proxied through real resisential/mobile ips. But, these ops still need datacenters to orchestrate everything etc. So the trolls are not destroyed just inconvenienced temporarily.
There will be very good research here in some time as it takes a lot of work to put this together as social networks do not have accessible research apis anymore. So to analyze content sentiment you need a lot of resources but there are other metrics like tracking resource utilization (like proxy pools) etc. With all that I think a good lab could produce good evidence if they wanted. The bigger problem is - why? We’re already well aware of ruzi troll networks.
Idk why that wasn’t target number 1. They would’ve received a lot more global military support if they just blew up all those data centers before anything else.
I’d imagine that - similar to the oil and infrastructure targets they’re also hitting in the last 6mo - it has taken awhile to get the technology and personnel into locations where they could actually hit them.
Russia is a big country, which means that getting in far enough to hit the “good stuff” isn’t easy, but it also means that protecting it all now that Ukraine has made inroads is also going to be difficult.
Remember to donate to Ukraine so they can do it again!
Alternatively, you could blockade the tanker about to offload 300,000 tons of Russian diesel in Wilmington NC
I’d actually put good money on this not happening. Russia isn’t really geared up to deliver oil like that they’re all about the pipelines.
Also whatever tankers they do send will have to get past if fleet of pissed off European fleets. Remember countries like Estonia went through some relatively severe economic hardship in order to sanction Russia, and then the United States comes along and does a deal with Russia to save themselves from a war that they started. Perhaps maintaining good relations with the United States is no longer worth it? I could totally see an oil tanker getting bordered.
It already happened. It docked last night, it is currently offloading the diesel in the Wilmington port
That deal was all about lifting sanctions on Russia and trying to open back usual trade relations with them.
The amount of diesel agreed is laughable, I think it is few hours of US consumption. It won’t change prices at all. I think there might have been a private deal that benefits trump directly.
I’m praying USA picks a fight with Ukraine…it will lose so badly actually, that it will finally collapse.
EDIT: USA will lose, not Ukraine.
America is the only thing keeping Ukraine’s junta afloat. 🙄
I have a recent newborn and I keep thinking that when he’s like 15 or so and starting to learn about world politics he’s not going to believe me that the United States was want to major world player. He is going to think I am lying to him. It would be like your parents trying to tell you that Africa was once a United country and had the largest military on the planet. Looking at it now it wouldn’t be believable.
Every coin helps!
Here’s your Reichsmark.
is that bandera? the nazi collaborator?
Ding. Ding.
Also call your rep and vote
My very blue reps support genocide. They’re pro Israel and pro Ukraine. I’m starting to see a pattern.
At least your rep is right 50% of the time it seems.
They’re not even right on 50% of domestic policy, but 100% aligned with fascist ethnostates proxies of Western imperialism.
Zelensky is a kapo stooge who will never outlive his usefulness to his Banderite handlers.
The BothSidesBad comments have dropped by 70%, even in the thread about how much of a cunt Gavin Newsom is.
Both are guilty of genocide and your leaders deserve Nuremberg trials.
Oh it’s you. Bye.
Yeah that guy sucks LMAO
Gavin newsom is a cunt and I’m from Cali.
Here’s proof:
Fucking shit state in a shithole country
For anyone passing by these comments, this user is the definition of some bot farm shit. The only goal is to make rifts among people, because a people divided is easier to control. Call the slop out
Wow this thread is a toxic shithole.
Monkey Putin deserves a crown for solving the Russian bot problem
Next do USA.
Noooooo… I like Yandex.
I like yandex too… anything that can work as a google alternative is ok on my book. At some point in time, image search was good and russian ads dont work on me cause i dont know russian, xaxaxaxa!
This sounds like a good time to hop over to .ml and see who the useful idiots are
Sorry, what is .ml?
Marxist Leninist instance. Some users just appear to be paid chinese propagandists.
Are the Chinese in the room with you now?
Notoriously tankie lemmy instance.
You type “i dont think its ok to torture people” as a response to a news article about people being tortured, and somebody pops up with a history lesson about what your country did before you were born so maybe you should firebomb your own capital city instead of saying that other countries shouldn’t commit attrocities etc etc etc its 99% of the time somebody from .ml
America is arming over 80% of all dictatorship globally, not China, not Russia, not Iran, not North Korea, etc
If you see human rights and democracy as a universal principle, then this makes America the least democratic, most brutal regime in the world.
But you don’t, these are just selective privileges you enjoy on the backs of the oppressed, a weaponized cudgel to steal natural resources from developing nations.
Even most other Americans realize this, but are helpless to stop it because this isn’t a democracy, especially in terms of our foreign policy.
Your post is literally what yermaw is talking about.
Instead of flooding the comments with Russian propaganda, why don’t you answer this question: Do you think Russia is doing a good thing or a bad thing in Ukraine?
You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy.
Hexbear tho
You will never find two more wretched hives of scum and villainy
You know they’re convincing people to vote for the party responsible for a genocide over at .World?
You know over on .ml we oppose genocide?
I think you might be mixed up, lmao.
Unless it’s the genocide of Uyghurs, right?
No, we’re against all genocide, lmao.
Then you are one of the few, fair enough. Had more than one tell me China was simply “educating” the Uyghurs, so it does seem prevalent on .ml.
Now do Israeli data centers.
ah a bit of the old collective punishment of all jews my little jew hating friend?
Noo that’s antiseptic! Are you from hummus???
There has been a lot less posts about socialism that’s for sure.
?
What does Russia have to do with socialism?
I’ve always felt like Russian bot farms and propaganda Mills like to push discourse about socialism in the United States.
It’s not that they’re necessarily in support or against socialism they just like to have people arguing about it for whatever reason.
Qui Bono?
Yes?
Lmao!
На самом деле я говорю на трех разных языках. Только не этот. Я не должен знать, что это значит.
Ah, it’s a popular Latin phrase used in English, it means, who benefits?
As in, where is the motive?
.ML users left in shambles.
You know, if they could still access lemmy in general.
Who? Traffic seems fine to me.
You may be new enough not to have encountered this yet but our instance has a well earned reputation of being Soviet boot lickers. Be careful on .ml meme subs and stuff, you’ll catch a permaban for saying anything pro Ukraine or in any way interpretable as anti Russia
Joined 5 days ago
Jesus do you have a goldfish brain? We interact all the time lol.
I got locked out of my OG account.
Do we? You might be overestimating your impact as a person, or I maybe I only pay attention to the usernames of people who make a big positive difference on my flavor of the fediverse!
All the same, brand new accounts are fishy as fuck, especially with 0 posts. Try creating, not just critiquing!
Lmao. Try not voting for genocide next time!
Real. I joined it cuz it said it was FOSS focused and run by the creators of Lemmy which I thought was neat. Did not realize it was a tankie cesspool. I’m now banned from a good portion of it for “Nazi apologia” because I said calling Ukraine Nazis was Russian propaganda
Nobody tell lemmy.ml
Nobody can reach them, the instance is pretty quiet with the Russiapologia today
I’m asking in full honestly, do you seriously believe this or are you just being passive aggressive?
I’m convinced tankie has just become some sort of pickme tribalism for recently de-conservatived. The lemmy updoot seeking.
Decades of pro-capitalist and US exceptionalism propaganda is fighting a hard battle in the face of reality.
It’s sort of annoying, but seems kind of harmless. It’s like whataboutism knee-jerking because US political discourse is pretty juvenile.
rare opportunity to refine blocklists
Russia is not using its own datacenters for fedi when they have unpaid western interns to do it for free.
They’re here. Not in the numbers reddit used to have, but they’re here. Occasionally we get a good one too. If you find yourself being argued with unreasonably, there’s a good chance that’s a russian troll. They have a scent.
can you give an example?
These are old and some of them on just their techniques, but it’s a good start.
- Astroturfing Information Megathread- revision 8 (old-reddit link)
- Link within previous thread and archived- “Once we isolate key people, we look for people we know are in their upstream – people that they read posts from, but who themselves are less influential. We then either start flame wars with bots to derail the conversations that are influencing influential people, or else send off specific tasks for sockpuppets (changing this wording of an idea here; cause an ideological split there; etc).”
- Russia and the Menace of Unreality-How Vladimir Putin is revolutionizing information warfare
- Russia is using the power of ‘Black PR’ to destroy political reputations and spread disinformation in the West
- The availability heuristic, also known as availability bias
- What Donald Trump, Vladimir Putin and Viktor Orbán Understand About Your Brain-Why do some people who support Trump also wind up believing conspiracy theories? There’s a scientific explanation for that.
- Political Misinformation Game: Harmony Square-it’s an actual game
- Max Fisher on How Silicon Valley Has Rewired Our Brains | Offline Podcast
- Amygdala hijack occurs when strong emotions “take over” the thinking part of your brain.
- Asch conformity experiments
- Simple Sabotage Field Manual by United States. Office of Strategic Services
- It’s My Right to Hold This Turd
- 5 studies about fact-checking you may have missed last month
- This Video Will Make You Angry
https://sh.itjust.works/post/33277983
Hope that helps!
I have written comments about this before, but the very simplified guide on, how to spot the russian and chinese propagandists on lemmy, is:
- Defending russian invasion in Ukraine, defending genocide of the chinese minorities, claiming Tianamen square massacre and the treatment of uighyr people are a hoax, being racist towards tibetans, doing the “I do not support [them], but…”
- Equating the USA = NATO, claiming everything any NATO country does is NATO as a whole doing it, blaming NATO for trying to attack Russia, saying NATO is trying to expand when border countries are joining voluntarily, blaming small border countries for aggression towards Russia
- Talking about “the West”, starting to speak about colonization times in unrelated discussions, trying to dismiss you by blaming you or you country for European colonization
- Trying to downplay and derail discussion on what Russia/China does, because the USA/“the West”/someone else has done bad things as well
- Writing longer and longer responses with multiple claims, often so you have to look into their sources/find reliable sources on the things by yourself, so you can argue against, in attempt to tire out out by making you answer each claim individually
- Using chinese state sponsored sources, supporting pro-russian/chinese politicians
- Blaming you for supporting genocide in Gaza, when you talk about some other genocide being bad, especially if it is related to Ukraine or China
- Dissing capitalism and saying China and/or Russia are true communists, marxists, etc., supporting the governments of China/Russia, either directly or hinting they are Better Options, arguing against calling China/Russia authoritarian regimes
You know, you found them, when your comments saying anything negative about Russia/China get downvoted, or someone starts arguing against you. Essentially there is no difference between the useful idiots and the bots and propagandists themselves. The people honestly identifying as tankies or defending tankies, are hanging in the metaphorical nazi bar without realizing it, and will not change their opinions, because they belive you are either bad, or brainwashed, so arguing does not get you anywhere.
The easiest way to deal with these, is to block the and move on. Arguing against will only give them more visibility, and make you tired and angry. If you feel pissed off, just explain these points as an answer, so others can consider with a different perspective, what they are reading, then block and move on.
100% agree. If you’re explaining, you’re losing. Some of the replies to your list are hilarious.
Ironically proving my point… lmao. Though I should have added, “calling Ukraine/you/your country nazis”, and “trying to insult you/your country personally, being rude in attempt to get you enraged”. There are probably a few more I forgot.
Lmfao your list is just anyone who doesn’t deepthroat western propaganda on every aspect of their “enemies”
Do you believe western news and governments that they are not in the middle of genocide in the middle east?
Trying to downplay and derail discussion on what Russia/China does, because the USA/“the West”/someone else has done bad things as well
Blaming you for supporting genocide in Gaza
Nice try at derailing. I am against all genocide, everywhere. I do not defend nor deny European powers or the USA doing shit all around. I am talking against Russian and Chinese propaganda.
Can confirm- they stopped sending me checks a while ago
i’m still getting them, putin even licks the stamps on the envelopes himself 💅
