Honestly, I support it. It’ll be like the election of 1912 where Roosevelt and Taft split the Republican vote enough that the Democrat Wilson was elected.
Democrats ran their modern version of Wilson in 2020. It went about as well as in 1913.
Why would any Republican run against him?
Seriously the sociopaths (AKA Republicans) are looting the Republic. They couldn’t be happier.
Blue states shouldn’t allow him on ballots if such a thing were to happen.
How about January 7th 2021 trump gets arrested and executed for sedition? Oh, is this a purity test to far for the democratic party?
Democrats are the cops at Uvalde. Keeping other people from going in and stopping the shooting (complicit alongside the republicans for perpetuating First-past-the-post voting, keeping others from competing against the republicans in the electoral system), yet doing nothing themselves.
Sure blue maga, blame those with no representation in government. Whatever makes you sleep at night.
They should, eya. Just like they should have kept him off in 2024, since he was already ineligible as an insurrectionist.
but only a handful of states actually tried. funny how that worked.
I’ve been screaming that for years. He shouldn’t even be president NOW!! He is an illegal and illegitimate president. He violated the constitution and our laws and was never cleared of those crimes and yet holds public office. But hey, he also violates every other law or rule we have so no biggie, right?
Cool, then Obama needs to run too.
Obama respects US law. He would never do that
Yes, he respects it so much he outbombed George Bush and managed to deport more people than Trump.
But looks nice, so that’s cool.
Signed off on the expansion of the patriot act. Gaslighted cannabis legalization. Didn’t create a UHS. Insurance companies cried crocodile tears but profits went up. I voted for that. It’s like watching WWE and thinking it’s real.
Donald Trump joked with rally-goers on Thursday evening that he had “the right to run again”
His allies have dismissed the president’s claims as a joke.
We know where you stand guardian, didn’t need to tell on yourself that directly.
The Guardian has always condemned Trump
They have consistently pointed out his corruption, failures and all the bullshit
If you think The Guardian is supportive of Trump in any way, I question your level of media literacy
If you can’t read the above which is directly quoted from the guardian, I question your general literacy.
Ask trump who won in 2020. When he says he did, tell him thats two consecutive terms.
Didn’t the 22nd Amendment not allow for people to run for a third term?
What would happen if he would run as (shudder) Vice President?
Putin did this one time right? With Medelev
And a surprisingly (depressingly) large number of law and order preaching conservatives are supportive of him doing it, despite him not being allowed to do that literally being written into the highest legal document in the country.
Laws aren’t important to MAGA
At this point, we should also legalize becoming a President if you’re not born in the USA.
Imagine Zohran Mamdani as President…
Bad idea then we would get stuck with netynahu, musk or thiel
Pieces of paper are just pieces of paper if it’s not enforced.
And lucky us, laws are only enforced against us, not for us. In reality, for the average person, the law kind of doesn’t matter anymore. It’s been hijacked as a useful tool for neo-fascist oligarchs.
They just say things in pursuit of their goals. Maybe sometimes they don’t even realize because they’re riding the emotional high of siding with their in-group, but some do. Some know they’re lying scumbags.
But might makes right. What’re you going to do to stop them? Nothing. None of us do anything. So the scumbags keep winning.
If there’s still a Constitution by then.
Narrator: There wouldn’t be.
Not with that doomer attitude.
Who could have predicted back in 2016 that giving this man power would turn him into a despot?
anyone with working eyes and ears
Which turns out to not be a significant minority of the US and A population.
Believe it or not, there was actually a small coalition of just a few hundred million people screaming this from their rooftops around the world. If only the maga crowd could’ve heard their message sooner… Surely, well presented fact-based arguments would’ve changed their minds
They heard the message, this is what they want. They want a lawless society where they can get away with ripping people off just like the president does.
They heard it. They also know that because you don’t agree with them on everything that you are a dirty liberal, and thus everything you say is a lie and you should be in jail.
And they knew that only a despot would be willing to actually put political opponents in jail, so they voted for one. But then he turned out to be some kind of despot!
I suspect there is a great deal of crossover between maga supporters and flat earthers
I saw the Good Liars asking donnie supporters about how old the Earth is; and you see some of the dumbest answers.
Haven’t seen them probe on the flat earth thing (yet), but being a young-earther is really quite ignorant as well. Oh, and of course, schools shouldn’t teach evolution, because goddidit is better for young minds to contemplate, I guess. 🙄
Shockingly, I had a coworker who is one of those that thinks they’re the smartest person he knows. He was one of those reddit-know-it-alls who spent a lot of time replying to people telling them they’re wrong. He claimed he was one of the most well informed people because he “reads both sides”. And by “reads both sides” he read the shit he agreed with and the headlines of an article from tHe OtHeR sIdE. He was also a staunch blow rogan supporter.
When he said he was “well informed” I replied “that’s what a lot of flat earthers say”. He got pissed and didn’t even reply. A fellow coworker of ours could barely hold in the laughter
Also, they had no other choice. A vote for Democrats means “those people” would get welfare benefits, the border would be wide open, xtians would no longer be allowed to pray, and everyone would be trans and vegan.
I didn’t vote for him, but I was pretty sure that his plan was to hire people to do everything semi-competently so that he could focus on fucking around and enriching himself. That was a very disappointing thing to be wrong about.
Well, you were only wrong about the first part.
I do believe his mother said something of the sort. That he should in no way ever enter politics
Impossible it was just a joke last year. You think he would do that setup a horrific violation of Western freedoms as a joke so no one takes it seriously then just full send it?
He has the right to pay for as many runs as he wants, but he can only shit in the oval office twice if elected. Is his argument that he has never actually been elected?
he can only shit in the oval office twice
We’re already way past that.
I count each term as one long, uninterrupted shitstorm.
He has the right to try! And I have the right to do what I need to stop him
“I was merely exercising my 22nd AND 2nd amendment rights at the same time”
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice
Those are the exact words of the 22nd amendment. It’s explicit. There’s no ambiguity or room for other interpretations. Trump was elected twice, he’s hit his limit, that’s it.
It doesn’t matter what it says when neither courts nor law enforcement will enforce it. Looks like we’re running out of democracy boxes.
Unless those rumors are true and they did manage to game enough voting machines to clinch the election. In which case he was not actually elected twice…
The election the Constitution is referring to is the Electoral College, not the general election.
There better be a real fucking riots in the streets across the entire damn nation if they come out with this bullshit.
Like I mean burning down federal buildings and police stations, storming the homegrown concentration camps to free the prisoners, a literal million+ person march on Washington DC right to the front door of the White House.
there should be riots in the street rn though.
How exactly do you guys think riots would go?
Do you think Trump would just say, “guess they don’t like me, I’ll leave office”?
Or do you think he would brutally crack down on everyone against him?
Riots would be the casus belli he wants to take military control of the country
Idk man. They did fly the army apache over them last time there was a big protest in Tennessee and then that time they did that weird stuff with firing the missiles in Cali. You’re right, but something has to change, I think we’re supposed to be brave and strong and united instead of shocked daily and then retreating, frightened, back under a rock to safety.
They’re waiting for the elections to fix everything.
When that doesn’t work…?
Like the riots when an insurrectionist was allowed to run for a second term after being ruled ineligible by a State?
But the Roberts Court, dontchaknow, intervened and went directly against the Constitution and made a BLATANTLY unconstitutional ruling that should have invalidated literally all of their appointments.
Trump was ineligible for the second term, whether or not the Roberts Court wanted to acknowledge it.
And hell will freeze over before I give those judges on the Roberts Court the dignity of referring to them with the words that other people call them or that court.
…and no person who has held the office of President, or acted as President, for more than two years of a term to which some other person was elected President shall be elected to the office of the President more than once.
And that’s why Vance and the other fascists are waiting until after the midterms to get rid of trump.
Its not the general votes that matter. Its the electoral college. So even if they cheated he was still elected twice.
So it sounds like there’s no prohibition against running, just against winning? Sounds like an easy win for the Dems.
It seems pointless to run in an election you are constitutionally barred from winning. But, Trump has proven time and time again he will do pointless things. If he tried running again and somehow he won, however, the constitution is clear: it’s a no go. He can’t get elected for a third time. That said, I don’t think that’s necessarily the point. I think the point is to create chaos and crisis. Hopefully he’s not around to run in 2028 so it becomes a moot.
Yes, I fully expect SCOTUS to uphold that one 🙄
Presidential candidate gets extra protections from prosecution and can raise pac money for bribes.
There is wiggle room in some amendments but this one seems pretty fucking clear.
It does specify that he has to be a person. Perhaps they’re going to argue he isn’t?
In a wild turn of events, he’s gonna change his name to Deborah and run as our first trans President, claiming the transition resulted in him being a different person.
But then Elon Musk will crack the sads, and have a big sook, with multiple posts on Twitter.
The Constitution specifically doesn’t call out Trump so…
/s
Unless somebody stops him, he’ll do it. All the people that are supposed to check or balance his power are his minions.
yes, but is anyone gonna stop him?
The one weasel notion that I wonder about, what if he was elected VP and the president stepped down directly after? Then he wasn’t elected a 3rd time but placed by successions. It wouldn’t surprise me to see them try some such fuckary.
I don’t remember the exact wording, but basically to be eligible to be VP one must meet the eligibility requirements for being President. So he’s not eligible to be VP either.
But I recall someone claiming that no such eligibility requirement exists for Speaker of the House, who is in the succession line after the VP.
They’d have to pause multiple times a day while he had his nap.
the legal
hippthesishypothesis is for the house to vote him in as speaker of the house and then the figurehead president and VP resign.Which could maybe work but even the more loyal bootlicker guys will prefer to be president than not.
If I were a fascist psychopath who had the opportunity to be part of such a scheme, I would 100% promise to step down and then not.
There’s wiggle room, he’s claiming a right to campaign. To run… He’s not saying anything about being elected.
He doesn’t actually do the electing. That’s up to public, and the officials who are in charge of elections (who he’ll try to stack with loyalists). He can’t say what they’ll do.
He runs, and if others elect him… Well… That’s the wiggle room.
That’s not wiggle room, it’s violating the Constitution. Not saying it can’t happen, but it’s not like that’s a logic loophole, it’s just not caring about acting illegally.
Yes, and none of that prohibits him from running for office again. The only prohibition is that he cannot be elected a third time. But here’s the thing: we don’t actually vote for President; we vote for who our Electors elect as President, and they are Constitutionally prohibited from electing Trump to a third term. If Trump runs and “wins”, the Electors cannot elect him. He can win 0 Electoral votes. Doesn’t matter what their States’ laws require because the Constitution is the highest law in the land… until SCOTUS rules the 22nd Amendment violates the 10th Amendment. 🤷🏻♂️
Well, he can run again. It’s just moot, as he can’t be elected. If he were to get the most electoral votes, I guess the runner up is elected?
Therefore, by his own logic, he shouldn’t be in office right now, because he won in 2020, riiiight?
Im sure he could make a convincing argument that he isnt a person and therefore should be allowed to sit for a third term.
That’s why ne said he’s going to run. He thinks he’s smart.
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice
This is why is fun to own a whole ass supreme court:
No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice
Words are fun for this guy
Trump appointed president for his 3rd term
I think the keyword here is “elected.”
14A3. He’s simply disqualified
So who is going to stop it?
Trump will run again and probably win, perhaps fairly.
Sure, but we didn’t enforce the 14th amendment section 3, which clearly states that he shouldn’t be president currently.
No one enforced our laws, so we have NO LAWS.
Which means, he can just run for president again and if no one enforced the law then it could happen again.
I agree with you on the law, but NO ONE IS ENFORCING ANY LAWS LATELY!!! So what the fuck does any of it even matter anymore? Hmm?
No person
Ah that’ll be where he’s trying to get in again then I assume, cause he’s not a person, he’s a monster
Conservatives don’t give a shit about “laws” or the constitution
if he can run so can obama.
Obama has absolutely no interest in this shit show. That’s half the joke of the current state of the Presidency. You need to either be a grifter, a soulless climber, or a senile coot to pursue the job at this point.
That’s how the presidency has always been; Obama is a soulless climber.
Was.
He’s just a celebrity now.
Bonus points for all three?
Does this mean there should be a nonpartisan Presidium?
I’m hearing good things about a Triumvirate executive branch
From what I’ve read, there was a proposed amendment that would overhaul the executive branch to where three people would act as a collective head of state and government. I think three presidents in the same office would be more interesting than just one.
TIL. I had no idea. And now I’m going to have to read up on this.
I was making a reference to the Roman Triumvirate which was famously unsuccessful at keeping one individual from consolidating supreme executive power.
That’s not how it works. The law applies to Democrats, not to the Ruling Party.
Their spin for it work for Trump and not Obama is that they claim the intent was no more than two “consecutive terms” but consecutive or anything of the like does not even appear. It says once you’re elected to two terms you’re ineligible for any more, and can even block you from running as the vice president so he can’t pull a “run as VD Vance’s VP and have him resign” bullshit.
