For Joe Reeve, the midterm afterglow faded fast.

The London startup founder was among the wave around the Trump-weary world awakening to the stunning news that Americans had sharply rejected President Donald Trump’s fist-in-the-eye stewardship of the United States that had started a war with Iran, forged no peace in Ukraine or the Mideast and made gas and food so expensive.

Voters, Reeve saw online, had flipped control of both houses of Congress, handing the power to check the president to his rival Democrats. American democracy, 250 years on, had survived the Trump era.

But a deep and profound distrust of the United States had survived the vote, too. And from national leaders to aspiring American immigrants, no one seemed confident that change was afoot.

  • starman2112@sh.itjust.works
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    Why would anyone trust us? We elected Trump, elected someone else, and elected Trump again. We’ve already demonstrated that a good election or two is no reason to trust us. Gotta wait until we’re actually rid of the rot

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    What are they even talking about? Tariffs are still there, EU passed laws that force countries to buy European weapons, they are finalizing a deal with Canada. Foreign policy is like a container ship, not a sports car. It took a lot of time to turn it around and it will not turn again anytime soon. The world is not going to just “trust America again”. It will take years to sign new deals and pass new laws and it will start only when US shows they are willing to seat at the table and talk which won’t happen in the next 2 years.

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      Also what has America done to gain trust? Votingnin blue is not even a beginning because it looks like they’ll just maintain the status quo.

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    If gas were cheap right now the Republicans would still have won more seats. The average voter has a 1 month attention span and until that changes it’s a coinflip of if America will be evil or not. We just have to hope the cards fall right for gas prices to be cheap when the dems are in I guess 🤷

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    Yeah, well, we haven’t seated the new congress yet. So, it’s gonna be a while before we see what they do.

    It’s going to take serious systemic change for this to not happen again, and I’m not convinced they have it in them to throw the book at the people who did all of this.

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    Maybe the world can tell that both US political parties are in the pockets of the same people.

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    Don’t.

    Not yet.

    Let us earn a spot at the table by showing we can prosecute criminals and hold the corrupt and powerful to account.

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    6 days ago

    I would just like to say that that this has been a very interesting discussion, and I’m glad to see how civil it’s been.

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    Nor should they. Not until we’ve shown real, sustained change. Trump is still in charge and like 30-40% of the country are apparently irredeemably awful.

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    Lol, nope, not trusting you people again for a long, LONG time.

    Right now you’ve done the absolute bare minimum blip.

    The rest of the world will judge based on your patterns of behavior going forward.

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    The problem is: the party has changed, but has politics actually changed, too?

    We know the Democrats to be toothless enough to think about rolling out the carpet for Trump instead of actually dealing with him.

    So we’ll just wait in how far they reign in their chief degenerate. If they stop his unnecessary wars, put limits to AI, scrap tariffs, and some other things out of Trumps pot of stupid ideas, we are open to talk again.

    Just standing and watching when Trump sells Ukraine and us to his favorite dictator Putin will not make them friends here.

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    Why exactly would we trust the US again? All we know for sure is that SOME fascist-loving racist pedophile admirers hate high prices.

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    We are at least two years from anyone being able to START to trust our country again. In order for that to happen, we will have to not only have to give the government over to the Dems, but we have to make sure that MAGA can never rise again.

    It is clear that MAGA is an ongoing, enthusiastic National Security Threat, and that’s BEFORE we embark on the next two years, in which PeeWee Himmler is going to unleash unspeakable violence on the American people in an attempt to crush us, and eliminate elections.

    When we get our country back, we will have to prohibit MAGA from existing, and anyone associated with MAGA must be purged from our government. They are Domestic Terrorists, by their own admission, and our elected officials take an oath to protect us from all threats, “Foreign and Domestic,” and MAGA is exactly what they mean by Domestic.

    When we’ve purged MAGA, and passed laws that will shore up the weaknesses in our government that MAGA exposed and exploited (like increasing SCOTUS), and we start acting responsibly toward the rest of the world, then maybe the rest of the world can start to trust us.

    We’ve got a lot of work to do to restore America’s reputation and place in the Free World.

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    The change in relationship between the international community and USA is happening more than just from Trumpism. This is the American retreat. Structural forces inside USA and outside are such that this is inevitable in the coming decades.