• betahack@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    great! as an American please keep it up. the only thing these assholes understand is money. support us by NOT supporting us!

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    2 years ago

    I know that my country - The Netherlands imports a lot from the US, so i am trying not to. Ditched all my Meta accounts, closed Amazon account/prime and Kindle, moved away from Google to several other services, stopped several streaming services and when we buy products from the supermarket actively check wheter products are from the US, and replace them with local/EU/Canadian products.

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      2 years ago

      From Canada, I’ve done the same as you, but I’m struggling to de Google. Any suggestions?

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        2 years ago

        Switched from Protonmail (after being a paying email/vpn/drive customer for 5 yrs) to Fastmail. Couldn’t be happier - if you have a 1Password account you get a discount and via the integration with 1Password it auto populates masked emails for discardable logins - same as SimpleLogin for protonmail.

      • a Kendrick fan@lemmy.ml
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        2 years ago

        GrapheneOS, CalyxOs or LineageOs as an alternative to just using android.

        F-droid and Aurora store for almost all android apps, Obtainium if you can find your way around git forges.

        Tuta mail, Posteo and other alternatives for Gmail.

        Firefox and Thunderbird as replacement for Chrome and Gmail app

        Duckduckgo/Ecosia(uses Microsoft’s Bing), Kagi(good but paid), SearX(free but you can run into limits quickly), Marginalia(nonpaid websites only) :- all are replacements for Google search, also learn to use search bangs to quickly take advantages of different search engine

        i don’t use almost all of Google’s other products but a search would pop up other alternatives. Don’t forget to use Google Takeout if you have an account with them.

        Goodluck!

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          2 years ago

          I wanted to use GrapheneOS, but only they only officially support Pixel.
          That means people have to pay Google upfront before deGoogling

        • T00l_shed@lemmy.world
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          2 years ago

          I appreciate it thanks! I’ve been using DDG and fire fox for a while. I’ll have to look up this Google takeout. Thanks again for the tips!

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            Google take out worked for me to export all my google foto’s so i can save them somewhere else! I was using firefox as well, but moving now towards Librefox, duckduckgo browsers. I also like Vivaldi but not sure how good it is on the privacy meters :)

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          Firefox and Mozilla to a larger extent may be going down the gutter soon. They have been angling towards AI shit, and then their new terms of service debacle this last week makes it clear they want to sell your data for ads.

          I’ve moved from FF to Zen browser, which is a fork. And also Librewolf, another fork.

      • Lanske@lemmy.world
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        2 years ago
        • Protonmail (i know it gets a lot of backfire on lemmy) and tutamail for mail
        • Proton drive for google drive
        • for travel i use TomoTom Go (amigo is free)
        • Duckduckgo and librewolf as browsers
        • Qwant and Ecosia as search engines

        good luck, and don’t flame me for using Proton lol

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    Good, fuck the USA and it’s garbage products. It’d be harder to do if they weren’t shit now, but perpetually cutting quality is basically the USA’s motto. Now they are experiencing it in the government.

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      2 years ago

      Exactly this. And then try and sell us their shitty stuff that’s doused in diseases and add tariffs to it?!?! Just to suck profit out of formerly allied countries, and force them to suffer for your own gain??!

      Big Fuck you USA.

        • ℍ𝕂-𝟞𝟝@sopuli.xyz
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          There is a long-running disagreement between the US and the EU because the EU does not allow the purchase of US poultry since it does not meet EU food standards. Put bluntly, they keep too many chickens in a too small coup, and diseases spread between them as a result on top of the sheer cruelty of it all. To compensate, they give them a lot of antibiotics, which has the effect of creating and spreading resistant superbacteria. At least that’s the allegation.

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    Gotten rid of nearly every US digital service I have. Physical stuff I will still probably roll with my Apple devices until they wear out since they’re relatively new, but almost all the data and apps are basically European and/or open source services. Work related stuff remains the challenge. Next phone will be HMD.

  • takeiteasypolicy@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    the biggest US exports are its software products. Until the time we have a way to avoid Google, Reddit, Meta, Microsoft, ChatGPT etc, we aren’t boycotting anything meaningful.

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      I’m on a now almost full boycott personally but my new Danish employer provides their employees with the newest iPhone (only phone you can choose… I tried to get another), American laptops, and uses Microsoft for everything including cloud. It’s the companies that need to start thinking and adapting. I aaked them “you know that all of our data is held by Trump-led USA, right?” And they just say “yea, but it is what it is”.

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      Have already replaced basically all US software products for personal use. Unfortunately work related stuff can’t be boycotted yet, but hopefully we can see an improvement there too ASAP. Hardware still from Apple, but will once it becomes time to replace it I will definitely switch to a HMD phone.

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      “Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good”. With changing our grocery and household purchases, cancelling Amazon and Netflix, and looking for alternatives to U.S. products, we are all doing the best we can, and I do believe it will make a difference.

    • Goldholz @lemmy.blahaj.zone
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      2 years ago

      Will do traitors <3 Get an earthquake from all the ww2 vets and former presidents spinning in their graves from whats going on with you <3

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      2 years ago

      Another terrible situation like Brexit - where the voices of many reasonable people are ignored. Feel free to come to Europe any time

  • Goldholz @lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    2 years ago

    Support your local breweries and buy their sodas and not coca cola <3 I do this and ngl Oettinger cola-mix and Riegele Spezi are amazing

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          I think the point is, go even further and stop. Of course they want it, those who buy it. Once I stopped drinking sugar drinks, they started tasting really bad when I tried them once in a while. Started preferring natural juices instead. Love my juices. Still sugary, but less processed.

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        2 years ago

        We will play with squirrels instead of video games! And wear bedsheets instead of clothing!

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      As a mexican I can say that this will be really hard, mexicans love so much Coke btw we have popular alternatives like red cola, but I’ve only seen masons consume that product

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        it won’t be hard when you understand that USA is selling you on their diseased junk just to profit off of you. We need to wake up to the fact that they are not selling us good products. They are selling us JUNK with no government oversight that is now full of GOD KNOWS WHAT just to keep it cheap, and turn a profit at the expense of your health and hard earned money.

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      Trouble with that in the UK is Coca-cola is the only soft drink really that hasn’t bowed to the sugar tax and changed their recipe to be full of artificial sweeteners.

      I absolutely can’t stand the taste of these sweeteners and some even make me feel kinda of bad after drinking them.

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    Here’s to hoping trump tariff war makes those stupid American pick-up trucks a lot more expensive to buy in EU. I hope the douchebags that bought them before have to pay way higher prices for parts now.

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    If you want to learn how to do successful boycott campaigns, you should look for the BDS Movement, that has worked to spread awareness to boycott companies affiliated with the illegal Israeli occupation and genocide against Palestinians.

    And no surprise, you will find many US companies in there. Also it should come as no surprise, that the US wants to outlaw even talking about boycotts in many states, as well as corrupt European politicians like in Germany attacking the notion of boycotting companies involved with brutal crimes against humanity.

    We need to join efforts in reducing the economic power of Imperialism, whichever shape it takes.

    https://bdsmovement.net/

  • Novice_Idiot@lemmy.wtf
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    Can we collectively decide not to respect American intellectual property laws to really hit the tech sector where it hurts? We don’t get that many physical goods over here but most of our software is American owned. I advocate for not paying American tech companies anymore.

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      EU regulations that can be triggered in response to tariffs include an option to make that completely legal

      Edit because I’m getting asked for a source: EU Anti Coercion Instrument that got passed in 2021 and came into effect in December 2023: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=OJ%3AL_202302675

      Specifically Annex I, paragraph 7:

      ANNEX I

      Union response measures pursuant to Article 8

      […]

      1. The imposition of restrictions on the protection of intellectual property rights or their commercial exploitation, in relation to rightholders that are nationals of the third country concerned, which may amount, as necessary, to the non-performance of applicable international obligations with respect to trade-related aspects of intellectual property rights.

      This applies to copyright and patents, but not trademarks as far as I know.

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        2 years ago

        This sounds really interesting, do you have a link or anything I could look for in a quick search to learn more?

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          Search for Anti-Coercion Instrument, the one that came into effect in December 2023

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      If we start ignoring the laws, we are no better than Trump and his clowns clan. Go for the alternatives instead. Also, If you keep using the US software they still get all anvertisement and telemetry which is more valuable to them than the software itself anyway.

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        If we start ignoring the laws, we are no better than Trump

        “Fascism is when piracy”. What a take

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      We need our own tech stack, that is at least verifyable. It’s due time to kick out the American tech giants from government projects etc.

      With America possibly becoming the new Russia it is just not safe to rely on Microsoft, Apple, Aws etc.

      We need an Europan open source stack.

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            That’s worse. If someone was telling me about “google or microsoft stacks” without explaining what it is, I would laugh.

            Are you talking about OS, mobile OS, GUI, web, SaaS, APIs, services, subscriptions, servers, cloud, VMs, …? What the fuck is a stack? Stack is a term that has been stolen by web devs and means nothing anymore.

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                You tell me. What is a Google stack? What is a Microsoft stack? The other guy was talking about a “tech stack” which practically means nothing.

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                  Google’s stack is the services they provide, so google docs is an example, google drive, hangouts, gmail, that bunch

                  And the mirror from microsoft like m$ word, outlook, their cloud i forget the name of, minishit teams

                  That type of shit, what else would i be talking about? It was very clear from the beginning

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      Thank you!

      As a Canadian, I have no problem supporting our EU friends.

      And to be honest, just looking at the list you can tell that the ethics within those companies are completely different than what you find with the American alternatives.

      Even without a dictator leading the States, buying European would still be better. 🤭

      Pretty wild, actually!

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        In South Africa, the law determines that if something’s labeled “Product of South Africa” it can’t have any imported ingredients (tho the packaging can be imported).

        “Produced in South Africa” can have imported ingredients - and I’ve been boycotting almost all of that because of the omnicidal carbon footprint of importing things. It’s easier in this country to live ethically tho because we can grow almost everything we need: from food to textiles; tho our energy production is some of the most unethical in the world.

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      Can you somehow add content to these lists? I think I didn’t see Galaxus (european Amazon alternative) on there anywhere :)

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      Facebook makes a certain amount of money per person. It’s probably not that high.

      If they can easily gather and find simple quick replacements for US goods that probably affects the US economy more.

      I don’t use Facebook for this myself, but have made lots of changes effectively now moving large sums of money from US companies to EU equivalents. There are still some stuff left, but most things are changed.

      I think that has a bigger effect and is a lot easier