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great! as an American please keep it up. the only thing these assholes understand is money. support us by NOT supporting us!
Each day now, I don’t buy a Tesla or an iPhone or a New York Penthouse.
That must be difficult, you’re going through a lot and I’m here if you need someone to talk to.
I know that my country - The Netherlands imports a lot from the US, so i am trying not to. Ditched all my Meta accounts, closed Amazon account/prime and Kindle, moved away from Google to several other services, stopped several streaming services and when we buy products from the supermarket actively check wheter products are from the US, and replace them with local/EU/Canadian products.
From Canada, I’ve done the same as you, but I’m struggling to de Google. Any suggestions?
Love the irony that this is hosted on reddit
Switched from Protonmail (after being a paying email/vpn/drive customer for 5 yrs) to Fastmail. Couldn’t be happier - if you have a 1Password account you get a discount and via the integration with 1Password it auto populates masked emails for discardable logins - same as SimpleLogin for protonmail.
Pretty satisfied with kmail/infomaniak
You could use services from the foes of USA like yandex and baidu
GrapheneOS, CalyxOs or LineageOs as an alternative to just using android.
F-droid and Aurora store for almost all android apps, Obtainium if you can find your way around git forges.
Tuta mail, Posteo and other alternatives for Gmail.
Firefox and Thunderbird as replacement for Chrome and Gmail app
Duckduckgo/Ecosia(uses Microsoft’s Bing), Kagi(good but paid), SearX(free but you can run into limits quickly), Marginalia(nonpaid websites only) :- all are replacements for Google search, also learn to use search bangs to quickly take advantages of different search engine
i don’t use almost all of Google’s other products but a search would pop up other alternatives. Don’t forget to use Google Takeout if you have an account with them.
Goodluck!
I wanted to use GrapheneOS, but only they only officially support Pixel.
That means people have to pay Google upfront before deGooglingI appreciate it thanks! I’ve been using DDG and fire fox for a while. I’ll have to look up this Google takeout. Thanks again for the tips!
Google take out worked for me to export all my google foto’s so i can save them somewhere else! I was using firefox as well, but moving now towards Librefox, duckduckgo browsers. I also like Vivaldi but not sure how good it is on the privacy meters :)
Firefox and Mozilla to a larger extent may be going down the gutter soon. They have been angling towards AI shit, and then their new terms of service debacle this last week makes it clear they want to sell your data for ads.
I’ve moved from FF to Zen browser, which is a fork. And also Librewolf, another fork.
- Protonmail (i know it gets a lot of backfire on lemmy) and tutamail for mail
- Proton drive for google drive
- for travel i use TomoTom Go (amigo is free)
- Duckduckgo and librewolf as browsers
- Qwant and Ecosia as search engines
good luck, and don’t flame me for using Proton lol
Won’t flame you for using proton. I’m concerned personally because of the CEOs stance, but it’s not worse than Google, and is probably at least a bit better
I found this an interesting read on it: https://medium.com/@ovenplayer/does-proton-really-support-trump-a-deeper-analysis-and-surprising-findings-aed4fee4305e
I don’t find it important what the CEO might or might not believe (and he does not seem to be connected to anything MAGA). If the business and servers are located in the EU I feel much better than if it’s held by Google or Microsoft.
Besides, officially, Andy Yen is a strong supporter of data privacy and outspoken regarding the need for a stronger European tech sector, even going as far as calling Europe “and colony of USA” because of our dependence on US tech.
Good, fuck the USA and it’s garbage products. It’d be harder to do if they weren’t shit now, but perpetually cutting quality is basically the USA’s motto. Now they are experiencing it in the government.
Exactly this. And then try and sell us their shitty stuff that’s doused in diseases and add tariffs to it?!?! Just to suck profit out of formerly allied countries, and force them to suffer for your own gain??!
Big Fuck you USA.
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There is a long-running disagreement between the US and the EU because the EU does not allow the purchase of US poultry since it does not meet EU food standards. Put bluntly, they keep too many chickens in a too small coup, and diseases spread between them as a result on top of the sheer cruelty of it all. To compensate, they give them a lot of antibiotics, which has the effect of creating and spreading resistant superbacteria. At least that’s the allegation.
And US does not allow Camembert, raw meat, etc. From Europe.
Want to really hurt them?
Stop importing their oil.
Want to really hurt them?
Also we can hurt his lapdog, not buying Tesla, not investing in Elon shit, and of course leave X
Teslanazimobile.
Gotten rid of nearly every US digital service I have. Physical stuff I will still probably roll with my Apple devices until they wear out since they’re relatively new, but almost all the data and apps are basically European and/or open source services. Work related stuff remains the challenge. Next phone will be HMD.
the biggest US exports are its software products. Until the time we have a way to avoid Google, Reddit, Meta, Microsoft, ChatGPT etc, we aren’t boycotting anything meaningful.
Is there a non US search engine that queries English sites?
This is a useful collection of European software products
I’m on a now almost full boycott personally but my new Danish employer provides their employees with the newest iPhone (only phone you can choose… I tried to get another), American laptops, and uses Microsoft for everything including cloud. It’s the companies that need to start thinking and adapting. I aaked them “you know that all of our data is held by Trump-led USA, right?” And they just say “yea, but it is what it is”.
Have already replaced basically all US software products for personal use. Unfortunately work related stuff can’t be boycotted yet, but hopefully we can see an improvement there too ASAP. Hardware still from Apple, but will once it becomes time to replace it I will definitely switch to a HMD phone.
“Don’t let perfect be the enemy of good”. With changing our grocery and household purchases, cancelling Amazon and Netflix, and looking for alternatives to U.S. products, we are all doing the best we can, and I do believe it will make a difference.
soda is disgusting
Fuck us up, y’all!
Sincerely,
Ashamed American
In solidarity with you, brother.
– Likewise, an ashamed American.Will do traitors <3 Get an earthquake from all the ww2 vets and former presidents spinning in their graves from whats going on with you <3
Another terrible situation like Brexit - where the voices of many reasonable people are ignored. Feel free to come to Europe any time
Support your local breweries and buy their sodas and not coca cola <3 I do this and ngl Oettinger cola-mix and Riegele Spezi are amazing
Uhhh… I don’t think I will

Or just stop taking surgary junks
Some people want them. Dont live on just water like me. So better them drinking local things
I think the point is, go even further and stop. Of course they want it, those who buy it. Once I stopped drinking sugar drinks, they started tasting really bad when I tried them once in a while. Started preferring natural juices instead. Love my juices. Still sugary, but less processed.
I mean, there’s way more selection than just water that is still healthy.
We will play with squirrels instead of video games! And wear bedsheets instead of clothing!
Apfel Schorle is much better than a Coke anyway
If you want to be that way: tap water is way better
Literally the only thing I miss about living in a Germanic country lmao
Wdym? We have Apfelschorle
That’s my point, I don’t live in a Germanic country anymore and Apfelschorle (Rhabarbershorle too) is the only thing I miss
But you can get apple juice and sparkling water, right?
That’s kinda genius, I must try next time
As a mexican I can say that this will be really hard, mexicans love so much Coke btw we have popular alternatives like red cola, but I’ve only seen masons consume that product
it won’t be hard when you understand that USA is selling you on their diseased junk just to profit off of you. We need to wake up to the fact that they are not selling us good products. They are selling us JUNK with no government oversight that is now full of GOD KNOWS WHAT just to keep it cheap, and turn a profit at the expense of your health and hard earned money.
it is not hard to do if it’s actually better. Spezi 🥰
Trouble with that in the UK is Coca-cola is the only soft drink really that hasn’t bowed to the sugar tax and changed their recipe to be full of artificial sweeteners.
I absolutely can’t stand the taste of these sweeteners and some even make me feel kinda of bad after drinking them.
Idk if it has even spread to England but when I lived in Scotland I only ever bought Irn-Bru
Guess you found a market hole :)
This is the time for the Italian MoleCola to shine!
Here’s to hoping trump tariff war makes those stupid American pick-up trucks a lot more expensive to buy in EU. I hope the douchebags that bought them before have to pay way higher prices for parts now.
Not to mention Tesla.
If you want to learn how to do successful boycott campaigns, you should look for the BDS Movement, that has worked to spread awareness to boycott companies affiliated with the illegal Israeli occupation and genocide against Palestinians.
And no surprise, you will find many US companies in there. Also it should come as no surprise, that the US wants to outlaw even talking about boycotts in many states, as well as corrupt European politicians like in Germany attacking the notion of boycotting companies involved with brutal crimes against humanity.
We need to join efforts in reducing the economic power of Imperialism, whichever shape it takes.

Sodastream? What did they do?
Sodastream have a nasty habit of looking for a vulnerable, oppressed population, building a factory on illegally stolen land, hiring a few of the locals for peanuts and then screaming that they are “helping” them.
Did it to the Palestinians in the West Bank and when that failed relocated it in land confiscated from the Bedouins. It’s in an artificial forced resettlement area where Bedouins have been forced to live in an Israeli-constructed town and industrial park.
It is an Israeli company that used to operate a plant in illegally occupied territory in the Westbank as well as mistreating Palestinian workers. It moved to a factory in the Negev desert inside the 1967 borders. The new factory however is part of displacing Palestinian Bedouins that live in the Negev. Also the mistreatment of Palestinian workers continued.
Ultimately of course all Israeli companies also pay corporate taxes which finance the Israeli executive such as Army, Police forces and Intelligence.
https://bdsmovement.net/news/“sodastream-still-subject-boycott”
https://www.cjpme.org/fs_244It’s an Israel-based company https://www.cjpme.org/fs_244
Sodastream used to have a factory in the West Bank where they employed hundreds of Palestinians. Because of boycott pressure, they moved and hundreds of Palestinian workers lost their jobs.
BDS only cares about hurting Israel, no matter the consequences to Palestinians.
Looks like they had some facilities on palestinian land.
Awesome. I hadn’t heard of this.
Quick look at their website shows they’ve actually achieved some pretty great things.
This is a great example. You can’t just stop buying everything. Boycotting specific companies with specific demands is the way.
Can we collectively decide not to respect American intellectual property laws to really hit the tech sector where it hurts? We don’t get that many physical goods over here but most of our software is American owned. I advocate for not paying American tech companies anymore.
EU regulations that can be triggered in response to tariffs include an option to make that completely legal
Edit because I’m getting asked for a source: EU Anti Coercion Instrument that got passed in 2021 and came into effect in December 2023: https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=OJ%3AL_202302675
Specifically Annex I, paragraph 7:
ANNEX I
Union response measures pursuant to Article 8
[…]
- The imposition of restrictions on the protection of intellectual property rights or their commercial exploitation, in relation to rightholders that are nationals of the third country concerned, which may amount, as necessary, to the non-performance of applicable international obligations with respect to trade-related aspects of intellectual property rights.
This applies to copyright and patents, but not trademarks as far as I know.
This sounds really interesting, do you have a link or anything I could look for in a quick search to learn more?
Search for Anti-Coercion Instrument, the one that came into effect in December 2023
That would be amazing! It would actually have some teeth
Piracy!
If we start ignoring the laws, we are no better than Trump and his
clownsclan. Go for the alternatives instead. Also, If you keep using the US software they still get all anvertisement and telemetry which is more valuable to them than the software itself anyway.If we start ignoring the laws, we are no better than Trump
“Fascism is when piracy”. What a take
We need our own tech stack, that is at least verifyable. It’s due time to kick out the American tech giants from government projects etc.
With America possibly becoming the new Russia it is just not safe to rely on Microsoft, Apple, Aws etc.
We need an Europan open source stack.
What kind of stack are you thinking of?
I’m trying to make a google stack replacement, which can also extend to microsoft
That’s worse. If someone was telling me about “google or microsoft stacks” without explaining what it is, I would laugh.
Are you talking about OS, mobile OS, GUI, web, SaaS, APIs, services, subscriptions, servers, cloud, VMs, …? What the fuck is a stack? Stack is a term that has been stolen by web devs and means nothing anymore.
…the services provided by google?
You tell me. What is a Google stack? What is a Microsoft stack? The other guy was talking about a “tech stack” which practically means nothing.
Google’s stack is the services they provide, so google docs is an example, google drive, hangouts, gmail, that bunch
And the mirror from microsoft like m$ word, outlook, their cloud i forget the name of, minishit teams
That type of shit, what else would i be talking about? It was very clear from the beginning
https://www.buy-european-made.eu/
https://european-alternatives.eu/
And for us Canadian, there is always https://madeincanadadirectory.ca/
Thank you!
As a Canadian, I have no problem supporting our EU friends.
And to be honest, just looking at the list you can tell that the ethics within those companies are completely different than what you find with the American alternatives.
Even without a dictator leading the States, buying European would still be better. 🤭
Pretty wild, actually!
Is there a ‘Buy African’ list? I wasn’t able to find one so far.
In South Africa, the law determines that if something’s labeled “Product of South Africa” it can’t have any imported ingredients (tho the packaging can be imported).
“Produced in South Africa” can have imported ingredients - and I’ve been boycotting almost all of that because of the omnicidal carbon footprint of importing things. It’s easier in this country to live ethically tho because we can grow almost everything we need: from food to textiles; tho our energy production is some of the most unethical in the world.
Interesting, thanks
Can you somehow add content to these lists? I think I didn’t see Galaxus (european Amazon alternative) on there anywhere :)
Sig Jolly til din cola. 🥤
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Kind of ironic that the people joined facebook groups for that…
Make due with the tools you have at hand.
Change the system from within.
Facebook makes a certain amount of money per person. It’s probably not that high.
If they can easily gather and find simple quick replacements for US goods that probably affects the US economy more.
I don’t use Facebook for this myself, but have made lots of changes effectively now moving large sums of money from US companies to EU equivalents. There are still some stuff left, but most things are changed.
I think that has a bigger effect and is a lot easier
Good to see major news agencies pick this up.



















