• nelly_man@lemmy.world
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      2 years ago

      I think the fact that you move the character around sorting the battle precludes it from that genre. Auto battles usually have two phases, a shopping or building phase and a battle phase. You prepare for the battle in the former but have no influence on the outcome in the battle phase itself.

  • towerful@programming.dev
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    2 years ago

    It’s an autoshooter isn’t it?
    Vampire Survivors would be a rogue-like autoshooter.

    Like Backpack Battles is an autobattler.

    • DragonTypeWyvern@midwest.social
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      2 years ago

      I don’t know why people keep calling it rogue like. Rogue-likes have a lot more randomness than an easily manipulated item drop system. I don’t know that a random map is a necessity but it certainly needs something along those lines.

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        2 years ago

        Rogue had you start from scratch with a new character in a random map every time.

        Rogue-like games initially meant you start from scratch in a new random world, but you incrementally improve your experience by small buffs you can buy, or changing your starting equipment / skills (sometimes by changing out which character you start as).

        Rogue-like has slowly changed to mean “start over regularly but slowly unlock new items/buffs/equipment/characters/etc to help you further explore a world which may or may not be random”

        So it applies to games like Risk of Rain (and 2), Balatro, Dead Cells, and Rogue Legacy, just to name a few examples (though 3 of those are 2d platformers with randomly generated worlds if I remember right…).

        But yeah it seems to have morphed into a broadly used term for games where you get better over time through purchasing permanent buffs and whatnot (as well as natural skill), but are forced to restart any time you die.

        Vampire Survivors and other similar style games have you constantly restarting when you die so I think the term fits as a partial descriptor.

        Maybe we could adopt the idle/clicker game term Prestige, but that’s more of a voluntary restart when you hit a wall and can’t progress, so I don’t think it quite works.

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          2 years ago

          For a while people tried to differentiate roguelikes, which maintained the lack of metaprogression, with roguelites, which did have progression. But that was pretty clearly a losing battle, the two names were far too similar to stay distinct as long as one or the other took off. Some few pendants still try to maintain the distinction, but that ship sailed ages ago.

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          2 years ago

          Just an addendum:

          Risk of Rain does not have randomly generated maps. The maps are from a predetermined set, I believe 6 for each biome.

      • CileTheSane@lemmy.ca
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        2 years ago

        They call it a rogue-like because there is meta-progression even though you “start over” each run.

  • Matt@lemm.ee
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    2 years ago

    I thought it was already considered a reverse bullet-hell. But I do like Bullet heaven as well.

    • Dizzy Devil Ducky@lemm.ee
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      2 years ago

      I’ve heard from at least one smaller channels that it’s a bullet heaven. That’s at least what they call this style of game.