usually peaceful interstellar community
Uhhh…
Also the Culture, Star Trek on ultra steroids.
Getting altered to become a furry would get you institutionalized in Startrek.
Or get naturalized as a Caitan.
“You wanna be a Caitian? Sure, what the fuck ever.”
People always forget that Star Trek is post-apocalytic science fiction.
That’s because it’s in the subgenre of “post-post-apocalyptic.” Think Nausicaä, Horizon: Zero Dawn, Planet of the Apes. The apocalypse happened so long ago that it’s more of a history lesson than an ongoing concern
If you want to live in a fictional universe, you should mention when.
In our defense, it is VERY post-apocalyptic, like 400 years or so depending on where you tag in.
It’s not like the bombs dropped yesterday and all of a sudden they have holodecks and microwaves that make food out of raw materials and transporters and warp drives.
If you consider our technology in 1625 versus today, Having that kind of tech in 2425 seems perfectly reasonable.
Then let’s hope they get dropped off at the right time.
Fun fact: according to Star Trek canon, we’re about to be living through the worst of the apocalyptic period starting about right now. The Bell Riots (unrest in California regarding “sanctuary” districts – sound familiar?) would’ve happened last year, and the Second World War/WWIII is due to start next year.
In our defense, it is VERY post-apocalyptic, like 400 years or so depending on where you tag in.
According to Star Trek canon, all the apocalyptic stuff lasts for about a century, tops. The Eugenics Wars started in 1992 (pre-retcon to make them happen further in the future), the nuclear exchange happened no later than 2053, the Vulcans showed up in 2063, and Earth society appeared to be completely recovered by 2121 (the time of Enterprise).
Are we not post-apocalyptic in the eyes of the romans?
Yeah but they didn’t have weapons that could flash-vaporize entire cities while setting thousands of square miles of everything on radioactive fire. Honestly theirs was probably worse.
Like how it’s writers were channeling the ideology (not practice, mind you) of post war USA.
I mean technically we live in a post apocalyptic era too.
It’s that it was before humans were around.
The most recent apocalypse could arguably be 536 AD, when most of the world couldn’t see the sun for 18 months.
To paraphrase Colossus from Deadpool 2 (or possibly Calvin’s dad): volcanic winter caused by things blowing up builds character.
Eh, not enough mass extinction. Needs more giant meteorites or extreme and sudden climate change.
Well hey, at least we might get to see one of those! Don’t forget your 3D glasses too
Personally, I’m excited
Aliens, holodecks, and regularly breaking the laws of physics? Kid stuff.
Humans actually learning from their mistakes? Now that’s what takes a leap of imagination.
It’s easier to imagine the end of the world than the end of capitalism.
Because look at how many times the world ended and people went on buying and selling.
Bubonic Plague? People selling and buying. Locked in a concentration camp? Someone knows how to get you what you want.
On the contrary. It’s a quote mocking the extent to which the exploitative system of capitalism has entrenched itself in the minds of people, to such a degree that they cannot even consider that a better alternative might exist.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capitalist_Realism
By the way, buying and selling things isn’t generally considered to be capitalism. Capitalism is about controlling private property for the generation of profit.
Buying and selling is not capitalism. You are conflating capitalism and trade.
Capitalism is when private capital owns the means of production.
Trade is when people buy and sell things to each other.
Markets aren’t capitalism
Blahblahblah the west sucks. Anyways
So is adventure time, what’s your point
That’s a shower thought if any.
unless you are Alexander
Or Harry Kim. Or Miles.
“Gay space communism” is my new favorite description for Star Trek.
Tbh Trek isn’t very gay, it seems like most people are straight/gender conforming by default. There are only a few gay characters. Compare it to the Culture, where trying out new sexes and sexualities is so normalized that there’s one character who’s explicitly mentioned to be cishet and another character remarks it’s weird that he’s never explored his sexuality at all or tried changing his sex.
“Fully automated luxury gay space communism” is the full phrase fyi
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I just wouldn’t want to be on the Voyager either the first or second time around.
Or in Florida during the Xindi attack.
Or near Starfleet HQ on Earth during the Breen attack.Or during post-WW3, Or pre WW3 in the Sanctuary districts, or at any point prior to that or else you’re just in our regular past, or a colonist in the DMZ the years leading up to the dominion war, or stationed on the front lines during the dominion war, or stationed not on one of the few hero ships that survives just about everything…
Or during post-WW3, Or pre WW3 in the Sanctuary districts,
I’ve got some bad news for you…
So long as you’re in the right timeline/universe. I’m not sure I’d fit into the Terran Empire that well.
What if you want to live in a gritty continuous war hellscape?
Believe it or not, also Star Trek
But what if I didn’t want any time line shenanigans at all?
Ok ok, hear me out. What if…
What if I also wanted crazy time travel shenanigans at least once a year?
There is a correct answer and it is Star Trek.
Not really, it just means the person who wrote this doesn’t read enough Sci Fi
Yeah, personally, The Culture sounds quite appealing as well.
/ten forward suddenly goes very quiet
Don’t forget the record scratch
Narrator, “yep, that’s me. You might be wondering how I got here…”
Just want to point out that The Enterprise is like the nicest, most exclusive, most elite ship in the Federation. Most people living in the Star Trek universe don’t have access to replicators or holodecks or highly-trained doctors.
Like it’s basically a super cruise ship with all the bells and whistles. Even if you’re onboard, chances are you’re a lower decks crew member.
I think replicators are fairly standard, depending on which trek ofc.
Holodecks and highly trained doctors, no.
I take your point, it’s like being a billionaire today vs being a regular everyday person. So we’d be comparing their healthcare, tech and gizmos to an everyday person.
Everyday person still has like semidecent healthcare compared to a few hundred years ago and you could quite easily buy pretty good gear yourself for certain basic medical things. Basic wound care, emergency medicine, get an ultrasound and learn to read it to scan your body in a rudimentary fashion if you’d like. Get yourself some EEG. You can easily get either (but prolly rather low maybe low-mid tier) for around 100 western money units. You train yourself rudimentary but still quite advanced medicine that doctors 80 years would’ve have had no idea of. Medications you’d have a trouble getting obviously, but aside from prescription meds…
So assuming a certain bottom level of technology, but also technological availability, replicators are pretty common, you can prolly quite easily get one for yourself and then you’re pretty much off to the races. Surely there’s things it can’t build but yeah.
I’d much rather be some somewhat poor shmuck in the ST universe than a moisture farmer on Tatooine.
Also, lower decks? Fucking aces count me in. Love that shit. And I do mean both the show but also the ranks if I were on the Enterprise. I’d happily be a mid-tier NCO instead of a bridge officer. Seems more heroic yeah sure, but doing that 247 would be kinda tiring to be honest. Mid-tier NCO’s have so much more agency. And still get to guest star sometimes. Although the rate of change of the redshirts under me would probably make me have to do a lot of interviews… hmmm…
If you’re talking about earth then doctors and replicators are standard. People that don’t have replicators are unusual. Holodecks do use a lot of energy so I’m not sure how common they are, probably more like a theater would be as an amenity for a city not one on every corner. They had free teleportation on earth with some usage restrictions so the holodecks would probably be free but with like a once a week usage or limited appointments.
Well, I’m more talking about human in general. Even the more spartan settlements we see usually have a replicator and something to power it with. Sometimes Enterprise gives them as “bare necessities” almost, imo. To modern day humans, that is. Well and the one’s who were supposed to be modern day humans on some planet they had been kidnapped to. I thought it might be Voyager but now I’m not sure.
I imagine holodecks would run similarly to how library computers used to; they had a book and you could reserve an hour. On an empty day, you could do more. They’d allow you to use it as much as you want given there was no-one else queuing. Then it’d be shared equally. And it might depend on your relationship with the librarian, on just how much you annoy them.
Most of the rough living worlds and ships on the show are something like the future equivalent of Amish or adventurers. Choosing to live without the normal amenities as a lifestyle choice.
If you live on earth or another core federation world, you’ll likely have the same or similar access to services and entertainment that the crew does.
Monkey paw: you live in the mirror universe
I mean that’s just another pro: you can jump universes and dimensions and even travel in time.
Some of that arguably exists in Star Wars, but…
Pro: All the hotties are wearing midriff exposing uniforms
Somehow, Palpatine escaped the holodeck…
My boring dayjob is to sit in front of the holodeck and shoot anything weird that comes out.
You mean Moriarty
Oh no, did the holodeck break and turn all the holograms real and evil? That’s the second time this stardate
Ok, new TNG plot idea - to provoke war with the Klingon Empire, Romulan hackers infiltrate the Federation’s central update servers, programming Klingon commandos to pour out of holodecks all over the fleet, take over vessels, and attack Earth. The Enterprise is spared because Wesley disabled auto-update to troubleshoot the Moriarty problem and forgot to turn it back on.
Nah, bullshit. I’m living next door to Bluey and having a couple of tinnies with Bandit.
You and me both, brother. My son loves Bluey meanwhile I’m just jealous at their level of patience for all of the girls’ shenanigans.
They said fictional universe.
No, don’t live on Earth in Star Trek.
As the functional capital of the federation and HQ of starfleet, its like living in DC comics Metropolis. Every damned alien race capable of plotting has a secret plot on Earth. Whether its some weird parasitic bugs taking over the admiralty, the borg, the romulans, the Dominion, or the upstart of the week, the casualty/injury rate has to be pretty horrific.
Mars is theoretically ideal, but get targeted because of the massive public shipyards, so it has a time limit of being good.
Jupiter, however, has less well known shipyards and all those moons to explore. It never gets outright attacked or destroyed, even the Borg just go past it. Jupiter is the place to be.
You forgot when aliens travelled across the galaxy to delete Florida from Earth.
Thats a net positive.
You want an m class planet, not just a dome. There are tons of nice planets that were early colonies that are fully developed now.
Heck, if you’re the people type you could probably get a place on Risa and make a living out of hanging out in a bar and telling the tourists where they can get the best Bolian food on the planet. That’s a perfectly sensible life trajectory in the Federation.
My general idea would be to be somewhere important enough that your quality of life is closer to TNG or Earth than DS9, without being in the constant danger and risk that TNG and Earth provide.
Risa.
Okay, but what happens if you are adamantly against living in any kind of universe that is Woke?
You could try joining up with the Klingons.
Klingons are Tankies.
In that case there’s always the other Federation.
