• Viper_NZ@lemmy.nz
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    1 year ago

    Even if I wanted to visit the states. Can I risk having my holiday ruined and the money I’d lose if I was randomly turned away at the border?

    It’s not even safe to transit the states at the moment.

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      As an American even I don’t want to leave because I’m very critical of this administration and god forbid they’d somehow connect me with my online persona. I just don’t want the pain they could cause. I don’t “think” they could deport me (50s very white male) but who the fuck knows at this point. Gravy seals that are cosplaying as some military elite in their tacticool gear are just snatching people off of the street.

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        That’s the beauty of not having duo process, your rights and citizenship don’t matter at all Because you never get to the point to be able to prove it, you just disappear

    • MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca
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      1 year ago

      If you got into the country, what’s to stop ICE from picking you up and sending you to a prison in another country?

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      The reality is this:

      They are accosting and hassling/turning away people who aren’t white. And I see pushback on this in the weirdest forms, people saying how most immigration officers are hispanic or black also, etc. That does not matter. This is entirely superficial and ordered by higher-ups and designed to drive up hate and racial tension so we don’t unify. If you’re not white, you face significant chances of being hassled at immigration but there are still thousands and thousands of people passing in and out of the country daily, so it’s not THAT high of a chance.

      As for transit across the states? Outside of some real backwater sundown towns in the deep south, there is a massive cognitive bias at work in the USA that works in two directions.

      I can promise you that you can be brown, asian, hispanic, purple with polka-dots and could most likely bicycle across the entire country and you will be treated with kindness and respect and people will offer to take you into their homes across the country.

      The weird disconnect that people are having a hard time digesting is that some of these same people will go online and scream about how immigrants are ruining our country and that we need to start a race war.

      We don’t live in a coherent reality in the USA anymore. The media world, including the internet and places like reddit and lemmy and facebook and twitter reflect a weird “mirror universe” where people are following an entirely different set of feelings.

      We are in a new world of cognitive dissonance and I fully understand how off-putting that is and I recommend not visiting the country for that reason alone. Don’t give this country tourism money as long as this administration remains in control.

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        Most people don’t have problems but we are shocked to hear Canadians and Australians were turned back because they spoke out against our regime government.

        It was unheard off. Freedom of speech? Gone. 🗽, diminished.

  • CharlesDarwin@lemmy.worldOP
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    1 year ago

    Meanwhile, Taco is literally attacking the 4th largest economy in the world and yammering on about tariffs again.

    I just don’t know how the market is still (relatively) up. I think when the crash does come, it’s going to be so rough.

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          I’d expect Israel to see the decline at 2024. For Russia I’d expect it to be at 2022. By 2025 these countries probably didn’t see a decline simply because they started from a low baseline.

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    Anecdotal: traveling to the smoky mountains and rented some bicycles. Owner said rentals are down 30% compared to this time last year.

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    1 year ago

    More so for people with families. Individuals might be prepared to risk it but no one with kids is likely to.

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    I am not doubting, but I am surprised that the article does not even mention Israel. I can’t see their tourism growing this year

    • Tarquinn2049@lemmy.world
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      To be fair, hard to decline when it’s already low. Even if they did include Israel or other countries mentioned in the replies, it’s still totally possible their tourism isn’t lower this year than last. Especially places where it was already pretty much 0 or statistically insignificant. Not declining doesn’t mean it went up, just means it’s at least the same percentage it was last year.

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      Israel has had a ceasefire for a bit. Unlike last year, when it was fighting all the time.

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        But I don’t remember their airports being closed last year, like they have this time. Last year they were bombing the sh#t out of Gaza. This year they have had some hits themselves.

        Personally, I’d have thought that Israel itself would have been a more dangerous place this year than last

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          The airports were only closed for like two weeks during the war against Iran.

          That said. I know two people who have visited friends in Israel this year. Only one of them had to go a shelter.

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      I’m equally perplexed. So tourism to places like North Korea or places in active war like Libya or South Sudan have gone up?

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    The Trump Regime has made it widely known that absolutely no one is safe visiting the United States. They’ve made travel by Americans, to American destinations questionable, based on ICE antics.

    Does America want a healthy tourism industry? Then they’d better get busy smashing fascism.

    As it stands, it is simply not advisable to travel to the United States.

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      “They’ve made travel by Americans, to American destinations questionable, based on ICE antics.” I think the appropriate word instead of antics is atrocities.

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      The Trump Regime has made it widely known that absolutely no one is safe visiting in the United States.

      FTFY

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        I don’t know about 100%. I doubt the companies that do a lot of manufacturing in China were big on Trump… even if they tried to buy him off by donating to his inauguration.

        His trade policies were always going to be bad for business.

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          Bad for business, but perhaps not as bad for the rich business owners that can capitalize on the market chaos a bit without even pretending to contribute to actual productivity.

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            I guess. But the people who benefitted the most on that were loyalists who supported the grift.

            I bet a lot of the rich voted for him, but you’re always going to have the Mark Cubans and Tim Cooks of the country. People that are pretty clearly giving more money to democratic side of the aisle.

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    I am surprised Alligator Auschwitz Concentration (soon to be death) Camp has not been touted as a tourist attraction by the white house yet.

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    Netanyahu, formally accused of “war crimes” and “starvation as a method of warfare”, also murder and persecution, in no less than the International Criminal Court, is still welcome. He’s even called the “greatest man” alive by the POTUS, a close friend whom Netanyahu knows his most intimate secrets. Meanwhile, the embassador of the USA in Mexico cancels visas to complete strangers through Twitter because they voiced their opinions on the way they are treating Mexicans everywhere in the USA, from Mexico. 1+1=2.