• cobalt32@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    1 year ago

    This is disgusting and entirely predictable. The US has bipartisan consensus on pedophilia. Neither party will release the files because both parties are involved in raping children.

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        1 year ago

        We just finished 4 years of a Democrat in the White House and the files weren’t released under him either. As Bo Burnham sang:

        And every politician, every cop on the street
        Protects the interests of the pedophilic corporate elite
        
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          Did he mention “the files” ever? Campaign on releasing them?

          Why are you taking for granted that there is some material thing that exists and constitutes “the files”? How is it not just yet another thing MAGA fabricated and paraded around as a boogeyman?

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            1 year ago

            Dude when they raided epstien’s manhattan townhouse they had to cut into a safe that was filled with hard drives cds and thumb drives. All this digital media then conveniently disappeared from chain of command custody, but there were pinhole surveillance cameras and microphones in every room even the bathrooms and computer control room for the equipment in the basements of all his properties. A defacto list doesn’t exist but one can be extrapolated from the loads of digital media they found at his residence.

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          Because it was an active investigation. If they released the investigation files, it would have fucked over the court case to convict them. It wasn’t until recently that the Trump-controlled DoJ said “okay, we’re done. Nothing to see here.” Now that there’s no longer an investigation, there’s no longer a reason to withhold the files.

          And before you say that they deliberately took too long to avoid releasing them, remember that the Democrats believed they had time to finish the investigation properly, but Trump’s elections screwed that; and that when dealing with people with this much power, you need a case that is more than air tight, and that takes a lot of time given who is involved. Unless you believe the Democrats could have stalled though a second term (obviously Trump couldn’t).

          Oh, and if the Dems actually wanted to avoid this whole thing, they could have much more believably said “nope, nothing here,” but instead they chose to push forward.

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        1 year ago

        Because the Democrats knew they didn’t have to vote to block since they’re not the one who promised to release it lol.

        Though there’s definitely less Democrats on there then Republicans

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    1 year ago

    That’s only because all their names appear in those files. Fuck every cowardly republican there

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    1 year ago

    Voted Aye: McGovern (D-MA) Scanlon (D-PA) Neguse (D-CO) Leger Fernández (D-NM) Norman (R-SC)

    Voted No: Fischbach (R-MN) Roy (R-TX) Houchin (R-IN) Langworthy (R-NY) Scott (R-GA) Griffith (R-VA) Jack (R-GA) Foxx (R-NC)

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      As a native new yorker (and unfortunately its the part of NY that votes red most times) its really disgusting to see a Republican New Yorker in the list of Nays. Just giving us more names we have to vote out to fucking dredge this swamp.

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      1 year ago

      Why do I immediately assume that dude from South Carolina has already announced he isn’t seeking reelection?

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        Doesn’t look like he’s annouced anything, but he’s not up for re-election until 2026 still. Plenty of time for this constituents to forget.

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        1 year ago

        When Mexico the Republicans send its their people, they’re not sending their best.

        They’re sending people that have lots of problems and they’re bringing those problems with us.

        They’re bringing drugs coverups, they’re bringing defending crime, they’re rapists

        and some, I assume, are good people.

        See kids, rhetoric is easy!

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        1 year ago

        It means they had the votes for a performative opposition vote and Norman was the most needing

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        1 year ago

        Why is everyone giving Norman a hard time? He voted to release. Give the other guys shit.

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          On the one hand, I completely agree, and I think I fucked that up by mentioning him by name instead of the 7 pedophiles that voted it down.

          On the other hand, he’s still a shitbag. If he’s catching strays, fuck 'em. In this instance, he voted for some modicum of sanity. He’s also the guy who pulled out his loaded .38 and put it on the table when meeting with Moms Demand Action Against Gun Violence.

          There’s no humanitarian medals for “guy who didn’t protect pedophile rapists.”

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      1 year ago

      I don’t fully understand American politics so why did only 13 people vote on this?

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        1 year ago

        If I understand correctly this was a committee that was voting on pushing the GENIUS act forward so that it could then go on to the larger vote that would actually determine whether it became law.

        The Democrats in this committee tried to add an amendment that required the release of the Epstein files so the vote was on the changes to the bill which the Republicans voted no and will just go on fox news to complain about Democrats not using the proper channels of legislation to get what they want.

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          1 year ago

          I guess adding amendments to bills is the American if you look at Trump’s big awful bill. Is is corruption that Republicans can do that but not the Democrats?

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            It happens all the time, I wouldn’t say it’s corruption, it’s more hypocrisy. It’s ok when they do it, but not ok when Democrats do it.

            It’s about what’s relevant to the bill anyway, an amendment about Epstein isn’t really relevant to the bill or the subject of the bill as far as I know so the Republicans wouldn’t be totally wrong to say as much, they’d just be hypocrites but they always are so that’s nothing new. The Democrats were doing it to get Republicans “on record” saying “no” so they could use it against them in the midterm elections, but I don’t see that helping at all when the Republicans can just cry about process and their friendly media will back them up.

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            It’s kinda turned into a “by any means” game since passing legislation is such a bottleneck in their logjammed system. Democrats do megabills with amendments when they’re in power too.

            The Republicans in theory have a point, but in practice any standalone bill would stall, be shot down or lost, with the reasoning from Republicans likely being “we have more critical things to worry about”. And yes, its also extremely hypocritical for the exact reason you said.

            It’s usually not this dramatic though. Absolute fealty to Trump is required from Republicans… We’ve never had a Congress this subservient, not that I can remember, hence the knots and justifications are getting twisty.

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    1 year ago

    Gotta protect the rapists and pedos. It’s the republican way. Is there really anything that isn’t just absolutely rotten in this political party?

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    1 year ago

    Incoming hypocrisy!

    “We’d gladly release it, but the method chosen was not appropriate. It should be voted on as a separate matter not as an amendment to the matter at hand.”

    Continues to use reconciliation packages to vote on GOP spending wishlists that can avoid a filibuster instead of the appropriate methods…

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    1 year ago

    I’m making the call.

    If the neoliberal Democrats some how manage to rat fuck their way into fucking over the progressives again, there will be a lane for a third party in 2028.

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      there will be a lane for a third party in 2028.

      Yes, magically in 3 years a third party will have won local and state elections and placed a significant number of representatives in the House and Senate and become a household name with the clout that goes along with it.

      Can we all just exist in reality for even just a single day?

  • Scotty_Trees@lemmy.world
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    1 year ago

    BTC does good reporting, hammering the same points daily, but my god I can’t stand his constant 5-alarm bell, sensationalism over and over again, like I get we’re fucked and I’m down to help, but I don’t need doom and doom in my daily feeds bro, fucking hell I hate this timeline…

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    1 year ago

    It’s the DEMONRATS Fault that REPUBLICANS blocked this! the DEMONRATS are the Pedophiles even though REPUBLICANS are the Ones BENDING OVER BACKWARDS to PROTECT Jeffrey Epstein!

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        I mean… If someone has the power to have him put into a solitary cell, pulled out of suicide watch, have all cameras shut down while he “killed himself”; I reckon that person has the power to pull him out and organize a face plastic surgery for him

        Not in a circumstance so pretty please correct me if I am wrong, but I doubt the list is actually real and I think they block the part of the court files where Tramp is mentioned! The guy def knew things, but a list of all the people coming to an island known for illicit things? Please! So why do they wanna block it? They made it up and campaigned really really for its release!

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          So why do they wanna block it? They made it up and campaigned really really for its release!

          Yeah, that’s possible. I still think more likely people doing that kind of thing know how good of blackmail material it is and keep a list.

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            Dude here is an island for illegal things, if you went to this island to do illegal things would you sign a guest list?

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              They don’t have to. The person blackmailing, has the list. Implicate them and have pictures or video.

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                So… there is an automatic guest list on the island of illegal things? Would you go to such an island to do illegal things, if you wanted to do illegal things?

                Of course again, the question arises as I said it before… Is there a need of a literal guest list? The guy knows things, supposedly made explicit videos

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        We need to protect the sanctity of the OFFICE of the Epstein, obviously not the literal Epstein who JUST coincidentally must be protected to protect the office itself.

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    They’re all gross evil pedophiles. The hard truth is this list if realeased wouldn’t fix anything on its own, even if we executed every one on that list. Its the system that creates these gross people and holds them in power. Without dismantaling Capitalism, there will be another Epstien, and another, and another. We’ve got a knife in our backs and we just keep changing the bandaids on it, without taking out the knife.

    As fucked as it is to say, these files are a distraction because they imply that if we just deal with those than things will be fixed. These monsters need to be held accounatable, absolutely, and that will only happen with mass action and an overthowing of the two-party prison we’re all in. The files are absolutley evidence of this hypocracy, but they are a symptom, and efforts need to be put at overcoming the full disease.