Fuck zoos and aquariums.
Well, you seem like you’d do well in one. At least until the tigers wake up. Good luck!
What about unwanted siblings or older parents?
Too modest to ask
I’ll go ahead and add “Eaten by apex predator” to the list of insane hamster deaths.
I’d like to subscribe to your “Insane Hamster Deaths” newsletter.
I’m just morbidly curious about what sort of situations the little guys might find themselves in.
Might also ask yourself how OP has been conveniently present for so many hamster deaths…
OP is the apex predator he mentioned
I read in another article that the zoo will “gently euthanize” your pet but I have had a vet come out to my farm and caution me about using any animal euthanized with drugs as feed for anything else due to possible bad reactions or side effects. So what is the definition of “gentle” when talking about non-drug euthanasia?
Don’t these drugs have short half-life?
I don’t know. I was just told I can’t donate the meat to a food program and I shouldn’t eat it myself.
by food program do you mean it going to other humans? because i’d imagine the problem is just that we have WAY stricter standards for humans
Short biological half life. It requires a working liver to detoxify.
Give ‘em the ol’ Anton Chigurh Special.
Call it, friendo.
Electricity?
“It will be humane”
I’d say a gunshot to the head is just as humane as drugging the animal.
Even more so and approved by the AVMA in their euthanasia guidelines if done correctly (right bullet, muzzle energy, shot placement and trajectory) and you can do it without any strangers showing up wanting to poke them with needles. Say your goodbyes, put their favorite treat on the ground and when they put their head down to eat it…works like switching off a light. A bit bloody but…it’s a farm
I’d say no as you need the right voltage and it hurts while they are dying… especially if you do it wrong. A well placed bullet is way faster and more humane IMHO
Gas them with nitrogen.
Wow, I didn’t think there would be so many crazy psychos in the comments.
I can get that people might not feel as much empathy with animals than humans (get, not approve) but most of the comments are kitten-drowning level.
You get a pet, which is supposed to be a companion and basically part of your family, and you don’t mind them being torn to shreds?
Okay then, I guess if your kid has a terminal cancer we can also feed him to the tiger? After all in the end it’s just a bunch of meat.
Yeah some of these comments were just disgusting. Do better Lemmy
I dunno if they’re psychos, exactly, I’m mostly seeing interesting takes, like the chicken coop that blew away or the fisherman. Varying degrees of “how close are you to this animal,” especially since critters like mice could be a lovely pet or food for an equally lovely snake.
But yeah, couple people don’t turn off their dark humor either, but that’s just the internet. I don’t mind it, I imagine only 1% are actually psychopaths (which is iirc the statistical average, except in business where it’s 4%. And I guess politics, now).
Then again, my instance blocks certain other instances, too. Lol
Okay then, I guess if your kid has a terminal cancer we can also feed him to the tiger? After all in the end it’s just a bunch of meat.
That’s a weird comparison, and it’s honestly a sign that you are struggling with separating the two on an emotional level. Which is ironic based on your opening sentence.
Alternatively, you’re too good at separating humans and animals on emotional level, to the extreme degree.
I agree with the other response - I don’t care about my meat sack once it’s no longer operational. Harvest my useful organs for donation, then feed the rest to the kitties.
The difference between humans and other animals is that we understand the concept of death and can make our post-life wishes known.
If my children told me they wanted to be fed to the tigers I’d probably still be horrified by the image of it but I wouldn’t push back.
Our pets can’t communicate their wishes to us, and in all likelihood they don’t care what happens to them when they’re dead. Putting their meat to some kind of use seems far more ethical to me than turning it into ash or sticking it in the ground.
It’s not about what happens to the body, if it was “bring us your dead pets we will feed them to tigers”, I wouldn’t be against it. I fundamentally disagree with the idea of surrendering your pet to be killed, be it a kill-shelter, or a zoo.
but that’s the humane thing to do, it’s not cool to force the animal to suffer from disease or old age until their bodies give out…
like, this is standard practice, you put your pets down when they’re too sick to live worthy lives.
Well the animals are being euthenized then fed to the animals to diversify their diets. If assisted suicide was legal here and I elected for it, I would have no qualms with checking a box that said feed my meat sack to the tigers. Although they might not want to do that as it may encourage the idea that the handlers/vets look a lot like food.
I wish this was a “burial” option over making some creepy guy in a suit richer than he already is because you need just the right box for grandpa’s meat sac.
The comparable situation would be if your family grew tired of you, and some day decide to euthanize you and feed to tigers.
To which your answer is probably “well, I’m a human, you can’t do this to me, I don’t want to be killed against my will”, and we will be back to square one.No, you’re making this about a humans ability to kill the animal, not what should be done with the dead carcus. The animals fate is already sealed, it’s dead whether or not it goes to the zoo. Just means it is either thrown in a furnace or processed some other way.
If you don’t like that humans get to choose whar happens to the animals, I understand… but that’s something that should be protested or brought separately to your politicians.
This is more like saying people shouldn’t be able to elect to donate organs.
Edit: or rather your family deciding to donate those organs to a someone who needs them after you’re dead.
It’s a bit less about what happens to the body - that I don’t give a shit about - it’s about what happens to the live creature. It’s not about accepting your dead pets, it’s about accepting your alive pets to be killed, and I fundamentally don’t like that, no matter will they kill them and fed the corpses to tigers, or burn it like kill shelters do.
I’ll agree that it’s weird to say the least that they’re askit for pets, pets should be worth more than just their money.
Having said that, predators need food too. Predators aren’t evil, they just evolved to eat other animals, it’s what they do, it’s what they’ve done for a billion years or so.
I think Denmark should fund zoos better
Apparently nobody here bothered to read the article. It isn’t about funding. Everybody’s just putting their own emotional spin on it without even being aware of the details.
“In zoos, we have a responsibility to imitate the natural food chain of the animals — in terms of both animal welfare and professional integrity,” Aalborg Zoo said in a post on social media.
The zoo in northern Denmark said that chickens, rabbits and guinea pigs were an important part of the diet of its predators, which need “whole prey,” reminiscent of what they would hunt in the wild.
“If you have a healthy animal that has to leave here for various reasons, feel free to donate it to us. The animals are gently euthanized by trained staff and are afterwards used as fodder. That way, nothing goes to waste — and we ensure natural behavior, nutrition and well-being for our predators,” Aalborg Zoo said.
I’m aware of the details
Why don’t they buy hamsters and what not themselves from providers so that there aren’t emotional connections to the animals at least?
It’s weird to ask for animals where there are inherently emotional connections
Then the question: don’t they have the money?
They’re making the offer available to those who want it, in other words those who don’t see a problem with it emotionally. Some of whom even benefit emotionally from it. Is it very hard to comprehend that different people have different viewpoints on things?
Yeah but here is the thing: the entire idea of a pet is to get some emotional connection with it, making you want to care for it.
Anyone delivering their pet for this should maybe have a psychological evaluation if you ask me
Did you miss the part where this is IF YOU’RE PUTTING A PET TO SLEEP ANYWAY? Nobody’s asking you to give up a pet you want to keep ffs.
Nobody’s suggesting that beloved pets get donated just for the sake of feeding the animals. But if you have a pet you’re planning to get rid of anyway, for whatever reason, some people would prefer to see the pet’s death contribute a final something back. Put it in the same logic as organ donation. Nobody WANTS to see their loved one’s corpse cut open and such, but knowing it helped somebody else in a small way can give some closure.
Getting rid of doesn’t equate to killing unless you’re incapable of planning and managing for the future.
If I’m dying, give me to the birds. But if I’ve, stopped entertaining you, then fuck you.
In many cases, getting rid of a pet does involve killing the pet, as there is only so much space in animal shelters and inflow is a lot more than adoptions. It’s unfortunate, but that’s how it is.
Not my kid, but if I’m terminal I’m gonna add “killed by some food-safe means and then fed to tigers in front of zoo patrons” to my potential death plans.
“The funeral will be at the civic building at 10am, and the viewing at 12:00 by the tiger sanctuary in Edgewater Zoo”
If you have a terminal illness they won’t take you as they only want “healthy animals”.
it’s probably a bad idea for everybody else, as now there’s a captive tiger, that is one that will be around humans forever, that also already are human meat, which is a suboptimal combination
My comment was mostly a joke but that is a fair point. No tiger-pit for body disposal then
in the end it’s just a bunch of meat
That’s why it’s back on the menu, boys! The circle of life is brutal. I think everyone in these comments is just externally processing horror at the idea of sending their own pets.
Right? Fucking bunch of irrational horror-filled replies.
You get a pet, which is supposed to be a companion and basically part of your family, and you don’t mind them being torn to shreds?
This is a fair way to feel about it, but if the question is only what is done with a body after it has been euthanized it seems more like a cultural consideration than an ethical one. Like there are cultures with strong feelings about treatment of human corpses to the point where organ donation is taboo, but that doesn’t mean being ok with family members being organ donors is some awful thing.
There’s a larger question about how pets and other animals are treated, and the thought of someone euthanizing a healthy pet for petty reasons is really disturbing (like stories you sometimes hear about this being done as a way to emotionally abuse someone), but that isn’t exactly the fault of the zoo or its practices.
Not gonna lie, I’m borderline getting used to extremism and antisocial behaviour on lemmy. This place feels like 4chan that hates 4chan. The wake-up call for me was when I was arguing against killing everyone on earth because of how shitty the people are, saying that some of us very much enjoy the life. Got downvoted.
I’ve also seen several calls for genocide against Jews. Pretty ironic for a platform that so loudly hates the current genocide.
I’ve also seen several calls for genocide against Jews. Pretty ironic for a platform that so loudly hates the current genocide.
Suggesting that the Palestinian side isn’t angel either and the Israelis are assholes too, will get you labelled as the world’s most devout othrodox Jewish Zionist to the level of Theodore Hertzl himself.
What did you expect from the platform that was created because reddit banned extremists? Fewer extremists than the place that banned them? Why?
I tend to hope for the best, but you actually hit the nail, I’ve had the exact same thought at the back of my mind about lemmy for quite some time. Much of the community is made up of people who have been banned or disliked elsewhere, so this is their refugee. The very first thing I noticed is how toxic users are with downvotes. It is no longer a community tool about moderating quality discussions, it’s essentially used as a “fuck you”, so I had to disable (hide) it and disregard vote system on this site, especially after seeing how easily it is for people to mass downvote lemmy profiles with multiple accounts (happened to me 2 times, even highly upvoted plain humor comments were suddenly downvoted). My guess is that we’re getting downvoted here, but do you really care?
You’re painting everybody together with one brush. I’m against humanity ending, I’m against genocide, whoever it’s practiced on. I also don’t see a problem with this (what I do have a problem with is the number of commentors who didn’t bother reading the article and are claiming it’s because the zoo is broke).
That was not my goal. It’s like me being a redditor and saying redditors are neckbeards. While it sounds like I’m shitting on every redditor, pretty sure everyone knows I’m talking about “those parts of the site”
Ah. It came across differently because you were replying to somebody complaining about the number of ‘psychos’ in the comments.
I mean…
It is deeply fucked up and anyone who gives the family pet to a lion should never be allowed to have pets OR children.
But a lot of people get small rodents or rabbits because they think they are just goldfish (which is a whole different level of animal abuse but…). And then they lose interest they just put it in the oubliette or “release it into the wild”. So… cycle of life and all that is probably better? Same with horses. Not everyone is fortunate enough to have a father like Trevor Moore who can teach them how to dispose of the body.
So yeah… I think I am okay with this? As fucked as it is?
I dont see any problem? I love my dog and i hope he wont die anytime soon. But what difference it does make if i pay 200€ to have him euthanased and cremated or have him euthnased and feed to the tiger for free?
I even asked from him and he seemed okay with it. Wagged his tail and everything.
Hell, i would gladly have my body fed to the tiger, rather than have some crook selling my family some 8000€ coffing that they see me in once.
I guess the key difference here is they specifically want healthy animals that might have otherwise been able to have been rehoused. So it’s not like when you have to put your dog down at the end if it’s life, it’s like if it had a couple good years left but you needed to move and couldn’t take him with you.
But they’re not taking dogs fwiw. Article just says chickens, rabbits, and guinea pigs. As well as maybe horses in the right circumstances.
I think it’d be pretty wild for anyone who eats meat themselves to criticize the practice of feeding a chicken to a lion. The vegans I can’t speak for but I think they would probably take issue way higher in the chain than this, such as keeping the predator animals in captivity for our amusement in the first place.
Either way I think it’s waaaaay overkill to suggest someone donating their pet rodent to a zoo shouldn’t be allowed to have children lol. The pet store you get them from feeds rodents to the snakes.
That bit about vegans raises some interesting thoughts regarding veganism and pet keeping. As with most things, I’m sure it depends on the individual.
In my experience it’s usually the whole factory farming thing that bothers them the most. I’m not sure I’ve ever seen someone complain about someone else having a pet dog, unless they weren’t taking care of it or something.
Would be interested to see a poll on how they feel about ethically raised livestock, if that’s more acceptable than most of the stuff you find in a supermarket.
I knew one couple who were vegan except for occasionally buying meat at the farmers market from a farm where they knew the animals were treated well.
Hell, i would gladly have my body fed to the tiger, rather than have some crook selling my family some 8000€ coffing that they see me in once.
I think you’re on to something. How about a tiger instead of the chair? I mean we could let the convict get a token weapon and do it in a way where people could observe it.
And btw coffins are a scam, somebody should set up a second hand coffin service. Your body gets roled away in a nice looking coffin, and off you go to the crematorium where you’re dumped into the fire and the coffin goes on to the next deado.
Would you sell your dog to a person so they could eat it?
No.
If they have money to buy a dog, they have money to buy a lunch.
If they dont have money and they were desperate enough to want to eat my dogs corpse i would probably buy them a lunch.
But if i can donate my dog to something usefull, like for medical training/research or i dont know. Fertilizer to grow tomatos for starving children i would.
So is 1 million dollars for someone to eat your dog too low or would you go lower?
You clearly haven’t been to rual america
There’s been a handful of studies now, finding that house cats can often (but not always) thrive on a fully plant-based diet as long as it’s properly formulated. Can’t help but wonder how many other animals who we assumed are “obligate carnivores,” maybe, like, aren’t?
Yes, with an extremely customised, unnatural diet, a cat may survive a vegan diet. They rarely thrive. But the point is that they’re unable to do so naturally, most cats will not understand why their food isn’t what they’re naturally and instinctually supposed to eat, which causes them stress.
Cats have an instinct to chew on grass for digestive purposes, but that’s about it when it comes to eating plants. Getting a proper vegan diet for a cat is extremely hard to do and unnecessarily stressful for cats.
Cat food in most cases already is discarded meat not fit for human consumption. You’re not exactly saving a lot of animals by forcing a cat on an unnatural diet.
If you’re vegan, feed your cat meat. If you don’t want to do that, don’t get a cat.
Yes, with an extremely customised, unnatural diet, a cat may survive a vegan diet. They rarely thrive.
They rarely thrive? If you’re going to make a claim, you need to prove it with sources.
But the point is that they’re unable to do so naturally, most cats will not understand why their food isn’t what they’re naturally and instinctually supposed to eat, which causes them stress.
Again, on your claim about cats not understanding why their food is “unnatural”, and particularly about it causing them stress, you need to back up your claims, because it sounds like you’re just making stuff up. In fact here’s a study finding virtually no statistically significant difference in palatability differences for dogs and cats in vegan pet foods vs others.
"For 1,135 cats, consideration of 15 behavioural indicators also indicated that diet made little difference to the food-oriented behaviour of the cats studied, except perhaps that cats on vegan diets lick their food less often, and cats on conventional diets leave more food. However, the feline comparison groups (particularly, raw meat n = 54) were relatively small, so inference of differences should be treated with caution.
Although palatability is important, animal welfare also depends on a range of other factors. However, the results from our study, which concur with limited existing studies in this field, do not support views that vegan pet food may have reduced palatability, and thus compromise the welfare of dogs or cats in this manner."
Cats have an instinct to chew on grass for digestive purposes, but that’s about it when it comes to eating plants.
Have you ever had cats and house plants in the same home? They are almost guaranteed to destroy virtually anything you grow, to the point that it’s important for all cat caretakers to learn about which plants are safe to grow around cats. Here’s a cat losing their mind over a purple sweet potato. Here’s one about a cat who loves cucumber. A cat who gets downright aggressive over ciabatta. A compilation of videos of cats who feverishely nom on corn.
Here are the facts. Yes, it is true that cats have adaptations that make them adept hunters of smaller animals. It’s also true that there are a some essential nutrients they can’t make and must get from dietary sources - if we’re counting “natural” sources only, some of those nutrients can only be found from consuming other animals - taurine being a notable example. But if you think cats should only eat what’s natural, does that mean they shouldn’t be fed formulated cat food either? That isn’t natural, they supplement even meat-based ones with synthetic ingredients just like companies do with the vegan-friendly formulations. From an article that goes in depth on the state of the science on plant-based pet foods:
“For those who feel wary about the idea of synthetic supplementation, it is worth noting that meat-based cat foods are also synthetically supplemented with taurine and other essential nutrients. This is because the high temperatures and pressures used during processing can degrade naturally occurring taurine, and other fragile nutrients. Synthetic supplementation is a standard and safe part of pet food formulation and is necessary to meet an animal’s nutritional needs.”
And just prior to that:
“Indeed, to date, three peer-reviewed scientific studies using both large-scale survey and clinical data have found that cats fed nutritionally-sound vegan diets enjoy health benefits as good as or better than those on conventional meat-based diets.”
What all of this highlights is that, far from being “obligate carnivores,” cats are opportunists who will take whatever they can get, and the “obligate” part only holds for situations in wilderness scenarios. The nutrients they need don’t care where they come from, and synthetically supplemented formulations meet their needs just fine.
And I really want to drive the nail in the coffin on your appeal to nature fallacy. Is it natural for cats to be domesticated? Some people go so far as to never allow their cats out of the house. That doesn’t seem natural, but it is safer for those cats. It also reduces those cats destructive impact on the environment. By contrast, surely it’s more natural for people to feed their cats raw diets, resulting in them getting bird flu, right? Like it or not, we have changed cats and dogs forever. That is something we need to think more critically about, because even now we are constantly shaping and reshaping everything they are, and everything they are going to be.
Getting a proper vegan diet for a cat is extremely hard to do and unnecessarily stressful for cats.
I literally just did a search of “vegan cat food” on Amazon and sure enough it had results. Availability might be somewhat less than the more established brands - I’m sure thanks in no small part to people like you who make unfounded kneejerk reactions - but in places where it is available, is it really any harder to just choose one bag of bits over another?
Cat food in most cases already is discarded meat not fit for human consumption. You’re not exactly saving a lot of animals by forcing a cat on an unnatural diet.
While it is true that some of the meat in pet foods comes from waste products, that’s far from the whole story. You are trying to paint a baseless narrative to make it sound like feeding your companion animals other animals is harmless, when it’s really not. From a study on the environmental impacts of diets for dogs and cats:
“If all of these groups transitioned to nutritionally-sound vegan diets, the numbers of terrestrial livestock animals spared from slaughter annually were estimated to be (in billions), in the US: dogs– 1.7, cats– 0.2, humans– 7.8, and globally: dogs– 6.0, cats– 0.9, humans– 71.3. The numbers of aquatic animals killed for food annually are far higher, and the use of nutritionally-sound vegan diets would also save billions of aquatic animals, in all dietary groups.”
And on environmental impacts:
“Considering environmental impacts on land and water use, emissions of GHGs, acidifying and eutrophifying gases, and the use of biocides, very substantial impact reductions were associated with the use of nutritionally-sound vegan diets, in all dietary groups. With respect to land use, for example, if implemented globally such diets would free up land larger than the areas of the following nations: dogs–Saudi Arabia or Mexico, cats–Japan or Germany, humans–Russia–the world’s largest country, combined with India. With respect to water use, such diets would save freshwater volumes greater than all renewable freshwater in the following nations: dogs–Denmark, cats–Jordan, humans–Cuba. With respect to GHGs, such diets would reduce GHGs by amounts greater than all GHG emissions from following nations: dogs–South Africa or the UK, cats–Israel or New Zealand, humans–India or the entire EU.”
If you’re vegan, feed your cat meat. If you don’t want to do that, don’t get a cat.
And what about people who already have animal companions from before they went vegan? And why shouldn’t people consider plantbased formulas for their animals even if they themselves are not vegan? Sorry, but contrary to your belief, the status quo is anything but innocent. And while more research needs to be done to more deeply understand health impacts for other animals, that’s something that can only happen if we push for it.
Plus, as cultivated meats become more available, that will take away every excuse you have. Sorry, but we can all do better, and that’s not just limited to what we ourselves choose to eat. Like it or not, this conversation will not go away, and it will only get louder as evidence continues to get stronger - just as it has for human diets.
And to turn this back on topic, that goes for other animals in captivity as well. Notice that in my original comment I never made any declarations that we should just start feeding plants to predators. That would be irresponsible, obviously. I posed a question, and did so because, just like with dogs and cats, it’s probably the case that a lot of claims about predator nutrition are more assumptions, and less science.
Let that sink in. The thing you are irrationally reacting to is a call for greater scientific understanding. Your entire comment is basically an elaborate appeal to tradition fallacy.
Trying to make your cat vegan is animal abuse.
No it isn’t, unless it’s done improperly. What objectively is animal abuse is feeding the ground up body parts of animals to anyone, including other animals.
https://plantbasednews.org/opinion/opinion-piece/plant-based-diets-dogs-cats/
Commercially produced vegan cat food can be nutritionally complete, but they are full of synthetic nutrients (because cats cannot synthesize things like taurine or folic acid). It is unnatural (and imo cruel) to force them to live off a fully synthetic diet. Many salmon have had to die for my cat to live a long and happy life. I am okay with that.
Oh God not this again lmao
Put down a plate of plant and plate of meat. And then tell me with a straight face that the cat isnt a carnivore.
That’s not really the argument, though. Cats are obviously, objectively, and indisputably carnivores. The question is whether they are obligate carnivores. If they can live healthily without detriment on a plant based diet, then they are not obligate carnivores. If they cannot survive healthily on a plant based diet then they literally require meat to live, in which case they are an obligate carnivore.
The moral, ethical, and health discussion around feeding cats (both house- and big-) a plant based diet is beyond my scope, but arguing whether the cat is going to go for the tuna or the spinach isn’t the point. They’ll clearly go for the tuna. The question is whether they need that tuna to survive, or if they could live (healthy and happily) without it, if they could get their nutrients from, and be effectively tricked by, a plant based substitute.
Dude, people like you are everywhere. “My dogs a vegetarian”, “my cats a vagan”, “my cockapoo is a 2 spirted trans Afghan wolf hound”. Its always something, rather than just letting the pet be a pet. We hate it when asshole bullies, get bully dogs that they then train to be asshole just like them. But when it comes to other people pushing their nonsense onto pets, all of sudden we have to respect it.
Cats are carnivores. Thats the end of the discussion. Thats what they are. Just because they can survive on something, doesnt mean its what they should be eating. Some humans say they are vegan, and “survive”. They look fucking ill as fuck, but they are surviving. And without science, in the form of special meals and supplements, they would be fucking dead. Wanna know why? Cos human beings arent vegan. We can survive without meat, but its not how our diet is supposed to go.
All that said, I too hate the farming industry and how it keeps and treats animals. But we need more to be done on that front, than going out to eat at a restaurant just to moan at some minimum wage waiter about how meat, and its disgusting that theres no vegan options.
How about reread what I wrote?
I’m not a vegan; I’m not a vegetarian. I’m far too broke and dependent on other people to be so picky as to choose what I get to eat. My dogs are also not on a vegetarian diet, neither is the cat.
I am not making an argument for or against veganism, and especially not for or against a vegan diet for pets. I was explaining what the difference was between a carnivore and an obligate carnivore is. I’m also not the originator of this thread, in case you missed that, too.
Normally I’d try to be nicer and more respectful, so as not to further inflame a situation, but honestly, the transphobic dig at “people like me” screams of someone who isn’t worth my time or respect. Be better. You can get your point across without needing to disrespect trans people and indigenous people. 'sfucked up
“People like you” People pushing their own shit on to pets.
But please, tell me more about how I am transphobic for calling out shitty owners who insist their dogs are LGBT just to get attention? I am all fucking ears.
can I send an unwanted child?
Eric?
No, the other one
The other Eric?
Only if at least one of the parents was a horse
Mom?
I like this. Maybe it sounds bad but when I was a kid a neighbor paid me to kill all his chickens after a hurricane because it was hot and their chicken house was gone. I would have much rather he drove them to the zoo to be fed to the animals there.
Growing up on a farm we killed, plucked and processed a few hundred chickens each year. Kept us and several families in town fed with good quality meat over the winter.
It’s not a bad thing to be that close to your own food production.
For one thing, you were probably really sure to keep the meat from being contaminated with animal feces, or from eating obviously sick animals.
These were laying hens though. They would have been better off as zoo food than put in my freezer as crab bait. I don’t think it’s bad to be close to food production. I’m a farmer.
15 laying hens hardly take up much space for laying. Surprising they didn’t just rig up a quick place for them to find cover and let them wander the yard until they figured out a more permanent solution. With hurricane debris around, repurposing wood that’s around shouldn’t be hard to find. Hell some people I’ve seen just throw the wood they bought to cover windows down by the road for trash to pick up. They could have found a downed tree and an ax and they would have hadenough to build a quick structure. Chickens don’t ask for much
You don’t want to eat chickens that are older or that are unhealthy
Define unhealthy, we definitely dont eat sick birds, but before we knew how much to feed them, we had a LOT of chicken lard. What’s wrong with eating older birds? They’re chewy, sure, but they can still make a tasty soup.
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Still sounds just as bad but then you have to wipe off the mashed-up pastry bits.
Do they take landlords?
No, only some species of sealords.
Will they take edgelords?
Could have just offered up 15 roosters this morning. They’ll go to trapping bait instead.
What do you use roosters to trap? And why wouldn’t someone just eat the roosters if you weren’t wanting them. Someone would probably also buy them.
We use everything. It all supports how we live. We do not use the grocery store very much and even though we are poor we actually give a lot of food away to our neighbors and friends.
Ah, that makes sense. I’ve only got one rooster and that’s because he was sexed wrong. So I have a dozen hens and 1 rooster now. I only use them for eggs though. Have to say he’s the nicest rooster I’ve ever met though. I never had any white chickens prior so I picked up 3 Plymouth rocks and 3 white Plymouth rocks and one of rhe white ones turned out to be the rooster. Hoping he stays relaxed how he is.
We hatch our own and we have all heritage breeds for various reasons so we end up with a lot of roosters. We have 42 hens at different stages right now and probably 3-4 roosters left.
Barred rocks are generally very gentle birds. Even the roosters. Keep touching him and talking to him and he’ll be good for a while. They tend to get a little ornery when they get older.
We do solely a meat breed for eating.
Roosters are pretty tough and stringy. Fine for stock, not much for cooking
Showing this to my cats to see if they stop scratching the sofa
Put a blanket over the place that she scratches and/or a scratching pole somewhere near the sofa.
Generally the more scratching poles (or carpets on the floor) they have to scratch, the less they mess with furniture.
this is so fucked why are people so okay with this? a pet is part of a family, it’s a responsibility, if theyre in the state they can be rehomed then rehome them!! half of my pets have been rescues and I’ve rescued hamsters too. they have so much more life in them than this! dont let them get eaten by a fucking tiger oml. these animals should be in an environment where this is not a necessity to ask the public for their pets to feed them!! most people debating this probably feed their pets biscuits and bread. I’m sure a predator like this is dying for a McDonalds ass version of its diet
I’ve been vege since I was 16 and this has really thrown me with how people on here are so okay with this. life shouldnt be subject to your disillusions :(
if theyre in the state they can be rehomed then rehome them
There’s way more pet surrenders, etc than there are adopters. Pets WILL get put to sleep.
these animals should be in an environment where this is not a necessity to ask the public for their pets to feed them!! most people debating this probably feed their pets biscuits and bread. I’m sure a predator like this is dying for a McDonalds ass version of its diet
I see you’re one of those who didn’t read the article before spouting off?
“In zoos, we have a responsibility to imitate the natural food chain of the animals — in terms of both animal welfare and professional integrity,” Aalborg Zoo said in a post on social media.
The zoo in northern Denmark said that chickens, rabbits and guinea pigs were an important part of the diet of its predators, which need “whole prey,” reminiscent of what they would hunt in the wild.
“If you have a healthy animal that has to leave here for various reasons, feel free to donate it to us. The animals are gently euthanized by trained staff and are afterwards used as fodder. That way, nothing goes to waste — and we ensure natural behavior, nutrition and well-being for our predators,” Aalborg Zoo said.
It is worth noting that the article says they are euthanizing the animals before feeding. So it’s not like they take a terrified pet and let the tiger rip it apart alive.
Still, not a fan of this…
Tiger got to hunt, bird got to fly; Man got to sit and wonder ‘why, why, why?’ Tiger got to sleep, bird got to land; Man got to tell himself he understand
hee, that was fresh.
One of my favorite lines of all time.
Fluffy meowed and meowed, but didn’t get to eat. So, Fluffy scratched and clawed, and got turned into meat.
The tiger got to eat and they need a meat based diet.
Option A: Feed them animals that have to bee euthanized and die either way.
Option B: Bury the animal that had to be euthanized and on top of it kill another animal so the tiger can eat.
Option A means less animals killed. Now of course we can talk about whether zoos should exist in the first place, for which there are good arguments that they should not.
bee euthanasia
Hey, at least it’s a natural way to go, huh.
Right in the article it says “The animals are gently euthanized by trained staff”
They are tossed in to be torn appart. Iirc predators love to go balls first if the prey does not mean too much effort for them.
No where does it say that in the article, and twice it says they are euthanized beforehand, so I’m just going to have to assume you are making things up and spreading lies for your own agenda unless you can prove otherwise
Can’t not be serious even for a moment with these folks.
