I believe in Fediverse Supremacy!

  • andros_rex@lemmy.worlddeleted by creator
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    2 years ago

    I believe in viewing as much propaganda as possible, because it helps you better see and understand it. No country is acting in our self-interest as a species right now. It is interesting what different people are allowed to say/not say on different apps. (My goal for this year is to learn enough Turkish to get on the Turkish web and better understand the weird cult that doesn’t get along with Erdoğan - they run lots of charter schools in the US for some reason.)

    The fediverse is nice, but is never going to be mainstream. It’s not designed to be addicting, because that isn’t its purpose. Maybe it is for the best to have these small holdouts where you can have something analogous to the early internet - where saying “suicide” or “kill” or talking about sensitive topics doesn’t mean your post will never be seen. These small spaces won’t be bought and destroyed.

    • penfore@lemmy.world
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      2 years ago

      I use Sync for mobile app and Photon for a web interface. But I think most people are not okay with having to search for these options.

      • AnonomousWolf@lemm.ee
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        2 years ago

        Exactly that yes, it took me a while to find Photon, and I’m someone that’s passionate about tech and works in tech.

        Your average new user is going to give up long before that and never use the site again.

        It’s also confusing to pick which instance to start with (users need to be guided more)

      • AnonomousWolf@lemm.ee
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        2 years ago

        For you yes, I’m also okay with it. Bit it’s not great as smooth and nice as what the vast majority of people are used to

            • kitnaht@lemmy.worldBanned
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              2 years ago

              Reddit-tier behavior right here. Because you’re just looking at the mod log and attributing every thing ever modded to my entire history of posts. I participate in lots of communities, and a majority of my stuff isn’t ever modded or deleted.

              And it’s actually worse over here, because instance admins have access to the history of your up/downvotes, so they can dive even DEEPER and have been caught doing that exact thing.

              But way to miss the point - and then go even deeper in proving the point I was making; and being a great example of that point.

        • kitnaht@lemmy.worldBanned
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          2 years ago

          https://old.lemmy.world/comment/14402980

          Would someone transphobic write this?

          You weirdo perpetually online Lemmy users always jump to the transphobic conclusion. I’ve been labeled that even though I’m not so many times it’s not even funny any longer. But you pull some reddit-tier shit and judge someone based on some cherry-picked history; and then have the balls to tell me to go back to Reddit while exhibiting that same behavior. Hilarious!

      • curbstickle@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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        2 years ago

        .world is not the problem, this particular user is.

        They literally said “I hate the disabled”. I know that because I tagged them when I saw that. No it wasn’t out of context.

        Other instances they may have just been full on banned for their behavior.

  • Luffy@lemmy.ml
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    2 years ago

    Not that lemmy isnt free, but just about every instance aside from .world is very left wing, and even here on world just about everyone hates right leaning people.

    That being said, you should look up the election posters of the German „die partei”. Their posters, especially the ones regarding Nazis, really vibes with me

  • neidu3@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    2 years ago

    We should form our own propaganda. Not as a counterpoint, but as part of a wider fediverse identity.

    But to successfully do this without being grouped together with one of the more mainstream platforms, it will have to be one so far removed from established axis’ of alignments:

    • Impossible to place on left vs right.
    • Impossible to compared with authoritarianism vs democracy
    • Cannot be tied to a specific geopolitical agenda
    • cannot align with a specific country’s interests

    How about this: “Sasquatch did 9/11 to distract us from the fact that Big Farming puts nutrients in our food, and the Dutch lgbtq communities are the only one who can save us”

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  • CurlyChopz@lemmy.world
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    2 years ago

    I honestly don’t think the fediverse will ever take off - and that’s a good thing. If it was to get too mainstream, eventually it would need to be standardised and controllerd to accommodate the average person, which would defeat the point of the fediverse as a whole. Imagine if everyone started using Linux as their daily driver tomorrow; a lot would be fixed, but a lot of the original identity would be broken

    • ERROR: Earth.exe has crashed@lemmy.dbzer0.comOPEnglish
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      2 years ago

      Imagine if everyone started using Linux as their daily driver tomorrow; a lot would be fixed, but a lot of the original identity would be broken

      That’s like saying: “Imagine every country just got rid of monarchy became Republics”

  • Kecessa@sh.itjust.worksdeleted by creator
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    2 years ago

    Yes and no, you still have admins here, just like on Reddit, you can get locked out of interacting with thousands of people at the whim of your instance’s admin and the only recourse you’ll have is to join another one instead…

    • Zombie@feddit.uk
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      2 years ago

      “The only recourse you’ll have” is the whole point. You have no recourse on Reddit. There is no other Reddit server. There are many Lemmy servers, all over the world, with very different views and policies.

      • Kecessa@sh.itjust.worksdeleted by creator
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        2 years ago

        And you’re just jumping from one instance to another with admins that can censor you again and again. You create your own instance and other instances’ admins can censor you by defederating from your own instance.

        • CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de
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          2 years ago

          Just out of curiosity, what’s your solution?

          (Putting aside that what you describe is still far more room for ban evasion than non-fediverse platforms.)

            • CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de
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              2 years ago

              That wouldn’t work that well, especially when you take law into regard. For example, the european Digital Services Act regulates platforms and platforms have to respond to obligations, sometimes deleting content. Communities are not platforms, instances are. Ergo, you need instance admins be able to comply and respond to the DSA.

              • Kecessa@sh.itjust.worksdeleted by creator
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                2 years ago

                The server owners would take care of the content hosted on their server and would need to filter it based on their local laws (to remove CSAM for example, just like current admins need to do), but otherwise this type of decentralization would make the website pretty much a neutral zone that operates outside of specific laws since the people hosting the content (and its backups) could be located all over the world.

                • CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de
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                  2 years ago

                  How’s that different from now?
                  Or do you want users to not be banned instancewide for breaking instance rules? Or do you want to abolish instance/server rules aside from local laws altogether?

  • where_am_i@sh.itjust.works
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    2 years ago

    Fediverse: extremely USA-centric, extremely left and queer. Dissent is punished as hard as posting Winnie Pooh on TikTok.

    • Rookwood@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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      2 years ago

      Downvotes hurt, I get it. But remember, it’s only an attempt to remind you you’re an asshole. It’s up to you whether you believe them or not.

        • luciferofastora@lemmy.zipdeleted by creator
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          2 years ago

          Not as far as I can tell. It’s really just an indicator “some people thought your comment was dogshit”. Whether you take it seriously is up to you.

      • where_am_i@sh.itjust.works
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        2 years ago

        Meh, you’re just building an echo chamber. Everyone around is of the same opinion, everything against is downvoted to hell, sometimes bans are handed out.

        And you are starting to believe you’re normal and you’re keeping your space clean of all the “assholes”. But instead you’re just way too far up your own ass most of the time.

        Your downvotes don’t hurt. It’s just sad that this ambitious project that could’ve easily replaced reddit, turned into a circle-jerk. The content and opinion-diversity on everything that’s reachable from my current instance is approximately /r/antiwork. I could just go back and spend all my days browsing that one sub without any loss. But such pompous name “fediverse”.

        You got nothing folks. Every community is about USA only and all the top posts are “trump bad”, “capitalism bad.” Like nothing else exists. You sabotaged yourselves. There’s no fediverse. There are 20-40k people chanting together “fuck trump, fuck musk, fuck capitalism”. On every instance, in every thread, on every topic.

        And you know what, I agree with all three. But even to me you look pathetic. And as my multiple tests confirm, you do not accept any disagreement, and you cannot brin any rational argument to the table, you can only echo.

        • Rookwood@lemmy.dbzer0.comEnglish
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          2 years ago

          Almost every other Reddit alternative has been taken over by nazis. You’ve got plenty of space dude. Just fuck off. I’m sure there’s even a fascist lemmy instance you can find instead of here whining because you can’t spread hate. Shit, just go join X.

  • TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee
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    2 years ago

    does Fediverse have a short form video content platform? cuz that’s what people really care about these days

    (also side note, we all really should avoid or limit short form video content consumption…)

    • lightnsfw@reddthat.com
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      2 years ago

      I don’t understand it at all. I find it infuriating. I need long videos to play in the background while I work. I can’t get anything done with this short crap. Maybe that’s the point…

      • TimewornTraveler@lemm.ee
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        2 years ago

        Short-form videos, like many things in modern society (e.g. many video games) are essentially just a Skinner Box. You scroll, watch the video, get a hit of pleasure, and then the video automatically replays. That cues you to scroll. Repeat. It’s easy to get stuck in that loop, especially if you already are struggling with executive dysfunction and can’t find motivation/pleasure in ordinary activities.

        • lightnsfw@reddthat.com
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          2 years ago

          I guess I just don’t get the hit of pleasure from it. I feel like I’m just getting into whatever it is and then it blue-balls me.

      • CyberEgg@discuss.tchncs.de
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        2 years ago

        I mean, that’s just two different purposes of two different formats.

        Short form content is not made to be played in the background while you work, nor is it made for intricate and detailed analysis or essays. It’s made to have something occupy your mind during short breaks like toilet or smoke break or while waiting for the bus or something.

        Long and short form content don’t compete but compliment with each other. If you don’t like one or the other, that’s totally fine, then you’re just not part of the target audience.

    • biggerbogboy@sh.itjust.works
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      2 years ago

      I believe Pixelfed Loops is the only one currently, it’s actually not half bad, apart from how barebones and stuttery the app is, which isn’t a big deal since the issues are only occasional.