Can they rush in after the first two words, before you say “not”? Can they enter if they stuff their ears before they hear the final word?
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Similar question, what if you retract the invite after they’ve already entered the home?
this is why you start the sentence with “no, you may not”.
a lot of humans do that, too. cut you off early and pretend they didn’t hear the second part, stuff like that. happened to me a lot. caused me to rearrange word-order a lot.
the preferred nomenclature is “come back with a warrant”.
Don’t give them ideas!
Hey, that’s an idea! A buddy cop movie, where they’re also vampires and execute warrants to get invited into the houses of the victims.
So a documentary about America then
Vampires are way cooler than police imo.
Actually, that could be a fun plot point. Vampires get in with warrants, find out people hate cops, investigate why, instigate positive change in the system…
Would be a major improvement to normal cops since they would only enter your house with a warrant.
No. It is magic so they would not be able to enter partway through an answer as doing so would make it clear that the vampire knew it was really a no.
I admire your confidence
It is a necessity when the vampires keep trying to get in!
What’s the longest duration between may and not that would be valid in keeping them out?
If the vampire knows it is intended to be a no then it doesn’t matter. The person could never finish it as long as the vampire knows the real answer is no despite the words being stated not matching up.
How long until you start questioning if it will work and invite doubt? Or will you assume defeat if the vampire fills the gap with, “why, thank you my good sir”?
My understanding of the idea with many interpretations of magic is they are all just ways of focusing your will on the world.
Ergo, the words aren’t themselves the source of power, your expectation that the words will result in a certain outcome is.
Therefore, if your intention is to deny entry is strong, there could be a fairly good gap.
But on the other hand, playing around to try and see could create doubt and uncertainty, weakening the effect.
I imagine it’s the intent, so it doesn’t matter how long.
At least 20 seconds if you yell “psych” afterwards.
They don’t know until the third word, they only hypothesize it’s a no.
If they are magically forbidden to enter without permission, but also don’t know every language or phrasing of ‘come on in’, then there is a magical way to know intent without needing to hear all the words.
Otherwise they wouldn’t be able to work with nods and hand motions from people who cannot speak, shrugs and grunts from drunk college students, etc.
Hmm, this was debated already and in this comment they provided a peer reviewed journal article about intent vs language and understanding. It sums things up better than I could. They clearly cared a lot more than me about this.
The thing with sources is that sometimes it is hard to know how reliable they are, and sometimes they do let you down.
sometimes they do let you down.
Some readers might assume a lie, and dissert you.
Thats why you summon Abraham Lincoln, the Vampire Hunter
i guess not.
hollywood says vampires have to sparkly shine first.
some vamp lore says it is your invitation that counts and not the permission part.
some cultures need visitors to declare themselves human when knocking at your door.
Knock knock.
Who’s there?
A human.
A human who?
A humangous 8 storey tall crustacean from the protozoic era.some cultures need visitors to declare themselves human when knocking at your door.
I didn’t think that much about it until this post. People here, me included, basically call out “(I’m a) human!” while knocking on the door.
Tao po?
“No.”
“You mayn’t” as well.
Imagining a vampire showing up to Wayne and Garth’s studio.
“You may come in… NOT!”
Borat’s House:
“You may… NOT come in.”
I just realized that I’d be pretty safe from vampire infestations. I hate having visitors, and will make (up) any excuse to avoid them. “Sure, but I was about to leave to deal with a work-related emergency. I don’t know when I’ll be home.”
…and then they can sit there alone until I see them leaving on my door camera.I don’t mind visiting others, because then I can leave when I’m spent. At home, however, it’s where I expect to be left alone.
Usually, they only need permission once, then they can enter at will
With those implications, they’d never be allowed in.
Assuming that vampires can be seen on camera
Assuming someone knocking on my door without being visible on my camera would get a response to begin with.
You said “sure”, you’re done!
They don’t need to they just evict you instead.
If you live alone and vampire shows up at your door with a gun and shoots you dead, could it then enter the house
Yes but then it has to water my plants weekly forever.
No, because you didn’t grant it consent to enter prior to death.
That only applies if you stick around haunting the house. If your soul moves on the house is no longer yours.
OK, but what if you’re still haunting the house, but a new person legally buys it and then invites the Vampire in? Who’s preference takes precedent?
That is yet to be decided in the courtroom of sitcom based on that exact premise.
This is vampire propaganda.
You’re already at their mercy if they are talking to you.
I think it’s safe to say that intent is what matters, not the technicality of communicating that intent. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intention
Don’t forget that a door mat that says “welcome” counts as consent.
What We Do In The Shadows reference?
Currently watching this with my wife! Season 2. We really enjoy it.
At least I remember it from Renfield
Yes. AAAAAARRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGHHHHH! I thought you said I could enter your house. This is not my home.
