“This is getting ridiculous and I’m about to just toss the whole thing and move back to Google,” one Redditor said of the “full-volume” ads for Alexa+ on their Echo Show.
Oh sweet summer child, Google is NOT going to be any better at this. That will just be changing one corporate evil for another.
“Advertising is a small part of the experience”.
Well great Amazon. Nobody is asking for this ‘experience’.
I bought the thing. I should control want it shows at all times. The reason I can’t trust the company to futz with that is why I don’t have one.
What you mean you dont watch the superbowl for the commercial advertisements that take up approximately 80% of the time of the 6 hour game?
I’m now reading Helen Philips’ Hum and it feels so disturbing that the dystopian world depicted in the book is so real. Like all of those things actually exist already, we just don’t think about them too often.
Fucking ads, even on Netflix and at gas stations now. So offensive
I am so happy that I can charge my car on my private ad free 6,4 kw power plug. 🔌
Bro I was toying with an AI rp and it would stop rp to send an ad. That’s when I new we were cooked.
My pet pony keeps shitting on the floor.
I am very frustrated and did not expect it.
I should sell it off and buy a horse instead.
Ponies are supposed to shit. It’s more like if the pony came strapped with ill-fitting saddlebags that leak toxic chemicals.
No. It’s more as if you had to pay for the pony to get it, and then:
If you want to ride the pony, that’s $2. The saddle has a coin slot to pay. It also has spikes poking both you and the pony if you don’t pay. Any time you get off, the spikes relock, requiring another payment to unlock.
This is the exact same situation minus the animal cruelty part and with money being swapped with time.
Yeah, but it’s like you bought the ponies at Shit-R-Us
Yeah that was kinda my point :) A cloud controlled device from a tech giant is supposed to
shit on the floorstart doing ads and invade your privacy. It’s what they do. Like ponies pooping, you should expect it on purchase.
LAMF?
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Laughing at my farts?
Looking At Martin Freeman
Lying About Mount Fuji
Labeling All My Files
Loaded Ant Meat Fries
Nah this is just their snack.
Morons buying moronic ‘smart’ devices, unable to understand that they’re the product, not the consumer and they have sold away the rights to their eyes and ears with their purchases.
My house contains no smart devices that can harvest data from me (my mum does use a samsung smart TV from 2016) and all devices have everything disabled and other things installed to block data collection and tracking… I can’t stop 100% of it, but what little trickle they do get is basically worthless.
My eyes and ears are not for sale, nor is my privacy.
Wow, you are soo cool and unique to realize that the consumer is not the customer, noone has ever figured out that before!
No one asked about the status of smart home devices in your home.
Wow you are so cool and unique to comment on an opinion.
No one asked your opinion on people’s opinions.
At least their comment wasn’t a waste of time and now I’m wasting more time.Seriously 😒
Don’t understand your downvotes, but probably owners of such bugs :-)
People will go to great lengths to excuse and justify their own idiocy, rather than suffer the simple acceptance they they could have been wrong… and one of these idiots suggested it was me who had ‘hubris’ :)
If there is a trickle, you do not know what you’re doing.
This whole comment has a, “I am very badass” vibe to it.
You’re probably sending more data to the cloud than most because of the hubris.
Did you see the research about how they were able to use the vibrations from your laser mouse to accurately determine what was being said out loud? Or how they can map rooms and detect motion with wifi. Enforable and painfully punished laws must be written not consuming one brand is not enough.
Installing spyware and wire taps in my home was never appealing to me.
AND not even being paid for doing so. But paying for instead. that’s the most bizarre part of it.
it doesn’t take much critical thinking to conclude that smart tvs are bullshit, but apparently too much for most people
Even worse than not-really-understanding-any-of-it is the wilful ignorance shown by some. “I have nothing to hide” is the epitome of obedient worker-ant stupidity.
“ok. tell me your account and routing numbers then”
What are you going to do, send them money? That information isn’t private, people have to give it up all the time to receive money…
ok. tell me your account and routing numbers
7826391786239 and 121000248
That’s from the ancient banking system designed in the 1940s that is still lurching around. The protection on a check isn’t cryptographic - it relies on the issuing bank to confirm the authenticity by examining heuristics on the paper check like paper type, ink and font used, check number, issuing address and the person’s signature. It used to be that you would deposit a check at your bank and then it would be mailed to the issuing bank to be cleared for transfer. You wouldn’t just deposit it and get your money instantly, it would take up to 10 days.
Honestly it is bewildering to me that they haven’t changed the system to issue cryptographically secure deposit-only numbers and unique withdrawal numbers that at least verify the authenticity of the check itself.
In the case of smart tv’s it’s obvious why it works. It’s way cheaper to buy a smart tv vs a dumb tv now, and It’s all companies make for consumer side, which only leaves business grade TV’s/advertisement boards which cost more. Even if this isn’t the case though, with how streaming oriented most people are, the general public won’t buy a dumb tv because they would still need to buy some sort of device to allow them to access their stuff. It’s just convenient to have it in the same device rather than buy a tv then spend another $25+ on a device that can allow access to streaming, when one device can do it all.
I upgraded to a “decent” Smart TV for my den (my previous one was an early stage Phillips smart TV that the store was basically deprecated on), and it converted 3 devices I had for my dumb tv, into that one device. It’s just convenient.
I personally think that people should be focusing more on not buying slop-ware, and working on implementing legislation of what companies are allowed to do to consumer purchased products before trying to revert back to dumb tv’s and spending 3x as much. The future is going to happen regardless, and people are going to take the easy way out, the easier way is going to be preventing the annoyances from being allowed in the first place.
I’d far rather have a dumb TV/monitor and a cheap, easily upgradable smart device connected to it, but I’m on Lemmy so that shouldn’t come as a surprise.
I still have the first Google Home speaker I got for free via Spotify subscription years ago, and it’s as far as I went, wouldn’t have put money on this
It’s so predictable
Haha. Are people even supprised? I mean come on.
The best thing you can do, is just DIY your own display with a microcontroller and have some fun in building it. Maybe run Linux on it and voila.
While we still have that option… I’d bet money that the second when most people start deciding to DIY their own home tech, they’ll lobby these techs as unsafe and dangerous and potentially ban their use outright, or require special licenses and degrees.
Cool, I have a degree and multiple technology certifications. Happy to help people with tech that pulls them out of oligarchs fiefdoms.
Whatever accelerates us getting off our asses and seizing the means of production quicker, I’m all for it. Take the TVs, I fucking dare ya
they’ll lobby these techs as unsafe and dangerous and potentially ban their use outright, or require special licenses and degrees.
They have a strong foundation in the DRM built into HDMI. I suspect this is exactly the real reason it is there.
F*K the HDMI forum. Those people are the cause I can not run 4k 120Hz TV on HTPC using AMD video kernel drivers on Linux. Because these drivers are open-source and the HDMI folks do not want this support in the open source drivers… FK them hard.
Google is NOT going to be any better at this
What are you talking about? Google Home devices have been out for like a decade at this point, they don’t play ads on them.
…that you know about.
They get more valuable information about you through their devices and show you ads elsewhere.
They don’t play ads on Google home/nest devices like this says Amazon do.
I would know if my Google home hubs played ads on them.
Yet. Google is an ad company that pushes ads nearly everywhere else. Shareholders/Wall St. demand infinitely increasing year over year profitability. It’s only a matter of time.
The Alexa division is struggling so they are well into the extract phase of the product.
Google will get there in time as well.
Yet
The only reason we ever got any TV show is because of TV commercials.
Yeah, and we would never have had theater either without Ads. Will Shakespeare was all about the product placement.
Does the ad money in this case go to the creators of the content displayed on these displays, or does it go to Amazon who also got money from selling these displays?
Amazon and producers might have a deal between them. That’s probably public information if you’re interested.
Is that relevant somehow?
Yes
Idiocy
Ok bud
I’m about to just toss the whole thing and move back to google.
… Ah yes. Here we see that, while frustrated, the consumer remains largely undeterred from fitting into the boxes outlined by our fearless corpo overlords.
“I gave Amazon my money and I’m mad, so I’m going to give even more money to another billionaire corp.”
They’re a redditor and redditors aren’t exactly smart.
Lemmy is structurally just super reddit. It just hasn’t been flooded by children yet so the discourse is still college level.
UI is too difficult for iPad babies but as the apps catch up the dumbass summer children will flood here too.
While certain large instances 👀 might resemble Reddit in terms of “quality” of discussions, not all of them do. Not at all.
Hey! I resemble that remark.
The stupid part is how incredibly obvious this outcome was yet a bunch of clueless morons bought them anyway.
Are those things hackable? Even if it means a full wipe?
Amazon garbage is literal ewaste as soon it leaves the factory.
I made the mistake buying a Kindle Fire in 2015. A few months in, it was literal garbage. Everything lagged. Very few apps would work. Not much variety in the Amazon app store. Learned my lesson about Amazon products.
