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      He thinks a Nobel peace prize will cancel out the other stuff. But he thinks it’s just the actual prize… Like it’s a secret key… Not the being a good person who deserves the prize.

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        Maybe he’s planning to argue his case with St. Peter and wants to accumulate proof of his deeds.

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    If he’s willing to admit that publicly, then I’ll bet deep down he knows he’s going down in the history books as one of the (if not the) worst presidents America ever had. It’s a shame he’s not likely to still be around to see the full devastation of the country his actions this year are about to lead to, and hopefully the ultimate rejection of everything he worked for once the sheep are finally no longer under his spell.

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        Yeah, you’re probably right - it’s pretty typical for someone like that to justify the hate they get to themselves by telling themselves they’re simply “misunderstood,” and that people will learn to appreciate his “genius” later. MAGAt coping all the way to the top.

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    “You cannot serve both God and money.” (Matthew 6:24)

    “It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of God.” (Mark 10:25)

    Kinda makes you wonder how it’s possible to be pro-capitalist and pro-Christian. Or… in other words, how it’s possible to ever be in compliance with Trump’s NSPM #7.

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      Kinda makes you wonder how it’s possible to be pro-capitalist and pro-Christian.

      Just say that you’re God’s special little boy. Then you’re free to commit as many sins you like.

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        The story I’d heard was not that it’s a transcription error, but closer to a pun. Readers would be familiar with the term for a ship’s rope, and the minor linguistic shift highlighted the absurdity of such an idea.

        Interesting though about translations to other languages. I’ll have to dig further on the subject.

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          God gives grace to those he blesses, or something idk.

          I’ve actually been in a US Southern megachurch, that “interpreted” that verse.

          They went on about how certain gates were called needles and camels fit through very nicely, they just had a different gate, maybe put down their stuff first.

          I just remembered the gist: obey and God gives you stuff, your stuff is a symbol of your piety and proof that you are one of God’s chosen.

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      Acts 2:43-47 “Life Among Believers”

      All who believed were together and had all things in common; they would sell their possessions and goods and distribute the proceeds to all, as any had need. Day by day, as they spent much time together in the temple, they broke bread at home and ate their food with glad and generous hearts, praising God and having the goodwill of all the people.

      The believers sold all their stuff, loved everyone, and things were great. If the US is a Christian nation, why aren’t we doing that? (Rhetorical)

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    Catholics consider the idea that any living person can be sure of getting into heaven a heresy. Trump isn’t Catholic but he’s still not saying anything theologically controversial here.

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        Confession is not permanent, in the sense that it does not absolve the penitent of future sin. That’s one reason why last rites are important.

        CANON XVI.-If any one saith, that he will for certain, of an absolute and infallible certainty, have that great gift of perseverance unto the end,-unless he have learned this by special revelation; let him be anathema.

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          Here’s a question for the Catholics out there: does absolution work if you aren’t really penitent? If you don’t even understand why what you’re confessing is wrong, can you really be sorry?

          I was raised Lutheran, and it was always clear in that church that all that mattered was what was in your heart. No one could act as intercessor between you and God. You couldn’t scam your way out of judgement.

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            if your confessing you must see it as wrong in some way. keep in mind non general christians see general christian doctrine as you can be the worst possible piece of shit ever second of every day of your life but accept jesus in the last second before death and its all good.

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            IIRC there are prescribed acts you can do that should be a form of penitence - that whole “Say 10 Hail Mary’s and don’t call Satan in the morning” thing. It feels a little akin to a kid, caught doing something bad to their neighbour’s property by mom, getting dragged to the neighbour’s door to apologize. There’s a good chance they are apologizing without actually feeling penitent, but once the conditions of the punishment are carried out, they are in a sense free to go.

            Like with the above, I think the idea is that you should truly feel penitent and these acts are an honest expression of that. But if we take a look at the history of the Catholic Church I’m not convinced that wasn’t put to the wayside a long time ago (see the trade of plenary indulgences in the middle ages).

            Second the request any comments from ex- or current Catholics though, this is just my impression from the outside/watching a lapsed Catholic grapple with their faith.

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      That’s not at all a modern American “nondenominational” Protestant attitude though. If you are saved, you are supposed to be assured that you are getting into Heaven.

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        That’s true, and I think that Trump is actually not a Catholic theologian but rather that he is expressing the view, common among cultural Christians today, that God weighs a person’s good and bad deeds against each other. There’s still the hope for divine forgiveness in this view, but the abandonment of the idea of unearned grace is contrary to the teachings of every Christian denomination, as far as I know.

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          It’s just odd. Been reading Martin Luther lately and it’s the antithesis to everything he’s saying about faith versus works. And if he was Calvinist, his position in life would be part of being “elect” anyway.

          It’s amazing that we have a wannabe theocrat who makes a mockery of the religion that is supposed to be supreme here. Everything’s made up and the points don’t matter.

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    Start shaking down the Pope, and the priests and maybe he can get elected as a cardinal and then he can get the rules changed? Worked for him once, I mean…

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    Release the un redacted Epstein list

    Create a universal healthcare system

    Create free college

    Abolish ice, Stop kidnapping people and pass a bipartisan immigration reform bill

    Defund Israel

    Defund palantir

    Enact a 90% tax rate on capital gains and income over 1 million a year.

    Hire back everyone you fired

    Donate all your wealth to charity

    It’s a start. Might not get you into heaven but you may get out of the deepest circle of hell

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    This tells me that even he knows his candle’s sputtering out. I just hope he’s snuffed soon; it’d make a wonderful Christmas gift.

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    There is always a guaranteed way to get into heaven and that is confess to all your sins, live on TV, with the names of co-conspirators as well.

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      I just thought of a great way for the current Pope to really make a name for himself as the one to stop so much evil pedo shit. Man, talk about rehabbing the image of the church (in the minds of people who pay little enough attention).

      Live global broadcast of Trump doing confession with the pope. Trump info dumps either with a camera in the confession booth, or by making a public statement afterward as penance, even if he just reads a prepared statement in either case.

      Then the pope says ok you’re going to heaven, and the rest of us try to get the gears of justice turning again.

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    El Taco should have thought of that before he spent a lifetime as a rapist piece of shit. But maybe he can convert to Catholicism and buy off the Pope*!

    *this is not how indulgences actually work and would not actually help