Tell me there are no women in your life without saying there are no women in your life.
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Oh cool, GFR has finally gone mask-off.
This has always been the case, but I’m going to take this opportunity to state that links to that site are not allowed here, and will be removed on sight.
@ValueSubtracted Thanks for the reminder. Yeah, I would never link because eww, but a screenshot for general pointing-and-laughing was just too tempting.
Hell yeah. I love the way Trek makes people like this piss and squeal and moan.
Allowing this to stay up but not linking to it seems wrong. I don’t know anything about this site other than the headline but if you disagree that strongly, which seems to be the right reaction, you should ban the headlines too.
Noted?
Oh, you’re that type of person. Ok, noted.
don’t like it, then leave, I guess?
that’s what a normal person would do.
Thankfully I’m not normal so I added a message to explain to others who are out of the loop wtf is happening, something op should have done but failed to do
https://vger.to/lemmy.myserv.one/comment/16646604
Oh look, you already responded to it.
More republicans making lists. Noted.
Check again
Yeah! Let’s pretend nothing bad exists, just live in our bubble where everything is fine and dandy.
Yes, the true fans of the TV show about space communism and racial equality has always been
*checks notes
Republicans?
I wish republicans would just die. How about that?
@LadyMeow I was hoping they’d all be raptured a couple of weeks ago. Imagine all the problems that would have immediately been solved.
That would work for me! :3
Not just Republicans…anyone that votes for a conservative party.
Yeah there are ideologies that most people can’t handle or comprehend today:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Progressive_conservatism
This and Rockerfeller Republicanism (sometimes called the east coast elite).
Then there are things that make more sense, like Christian Distributism, Communitarianism, Georgism. Put all this together and you realise, there are definitely ways to Socialism that run through Conservatism. Most people can’t handle or understand this idea.
@DarkCloud If I wanted to be charitable, I’d acknowledge that there haven’t really been progressive Republicans pretty much since Reagan, so younger conservatives haven’t been exposed to them.
It’s unfortunate that young leftists don’t understand the real territory of rightwing politics (their deeper espoused values), because there are genuine avenues for fractures and change there.
Conservatives tend to be statists even though they’ve been brainwashed into thinking they’re not. They tend to want grand projects, community halls, roman columns, socialism for their neighborhoods, family, community, and churches - none of which economic Libertarians agree with. Libertarians would be buying the marble back to sell it on the freemarket then eyeing the family and wondering why they can’t buy them as slaves too. Really opposing philosophies if you go by their ideals.
Then throw the Christian Distributism, Communitarianism, and Georgism in there, and Conservativism starts to look pretty leftwing, leaving Libertarians out in the cold.
Throw in a concept like Aesthetic Justice, the idea that poor suburbs should look and be designed to be beautiful and that that would reduce crime, create safer, more neighbourly communities - stuff like that might even break the conservative’s love of military policing.
It’s all a matter of perspective.
Hilarious. The Republicans are watching progressive shit promoting liberalism, equality and ethics? A communist utopia?
This is the stupidest fucking thing I’ve ever read in my life.
As someone who has gone to conventions this is laughably false.
I like older trek because the writing was interesting and sometimes cerebral. I have no qualms with LGBT characters, I have a problem with shitty written plot and characters. Take the show away from paramount, hire the best writers you can who care some about continuity of the star trek universe and you’d have an almost guaranteed viral franchise.
Bring back the DS9 writers if they are willing, also fuck Rick Berman.
And the setting, while they’re at it!
Imagine what they could do with Changeling crewmates, mixed with a Picard style Android and maybe the Gamma Quadrant. They’d be perfect vehicles to explore more modern issues (trans stuff/AI, for instance. Maybe neurodivergence?) in a Star Trek coat of paint.
Yeah, sure. As long as Fox doesn’t broadcast the first episode last and confuse the fuck out of all the watchers. Of course, the last bit that explains everything that no one lasts long enough to see.
You might be able to make some comic and novels for those rare fans. To get that understanding how everyone got there from earth if some jackass sabatours don’t persuade everyone on Reddit that your comics suck. Probably the same Alliance that flexxed Fox to do what they did in the beginning.
Maybe they make some board games too. Or hitch your actors to flip their character rep skill with the the Giggle and make a Horrible Sing-a-Long Blog.
Oddly specific ranting, browncoat.
Took the opportunity.
continuity of the star trek universe
Actually I think this is a fairly low priority if you want to gather more viewers.
Pretty sure the fujoshis own Trek actually.
The issue is that Star Trek happened to appeal to all, not just American Repulsicans.
I could drop all the acid in the world and still not come up with a take this fucking deranged.
@don Toxic masculinity is a helluva drug.
…Masculinity? This is bog standard “conformist imagining a we to be a part of”. It’s why the “moral majority” thing had the impact it did.
What an incredibly stupid take by these jeenyuses.
Then again there’s precedence with a moron from Fox ‘News’ who prefers Trek to Wars since it’s ‘not woke’.
How delusional do you have to be to believe this?
Republican levels, so checks out?
Slash fic as it originated in modern fan culture was Kirk/Spock and spread through zines written by women in the 60s.
Also I’ve been watching TNG for the first time lately (late to trek) and I honestly don’t understand how conservatives could really enjoy the best episodes. Like I watched The Drumhead (s4e21) last night and it was aggressively unsubtlely anti conservative. Like honestly I regret not keeping notes from the start of this watch through to have good episodes to recommend to people. First Contact (s4e14) had the villain literally be a conservative trying to preserve his society’s way of life against the progress it would have to deal with if it encountered aliens.
What i know is this… gay aliens are acceptable, guy humans are not. Thats it in a nutshell, but it does get very complicated. Two simbiot women human kissing? Its ok because they are technically alien, but also ok because they are women, not men.
That brings me to the new gay doctor. It isnt commentary on weird alien sexual stuff, no, it comes off as a political statement. It doesn’t add to any space/alien stuff, rather it feels like an agenda being pushed… im not trying to offend anyone. My personal opinion? It feels like it wants to push a narrative, im not into the star trek hardly at all anymore.
TOS, TNG, voyager and like half of DS9 is how I like star wars. The new crap is only that, crap… imo…
Gay humans exist today, they existed throughout history, and they will continue to exist for as long as humans do.
Do you consider Uhura being a bridge officer to be “pushing a narrative”? Because that was a political statement in much the same way that gay characters in Star Trek are (arguably more so).
It sucks to be a person whose very existence is political in this world that we live in now. Sci-Fi that includes those people is a way of saying "hey, wouldn’t it be nice if people could live their lives without their existence being the battleground for political ideology.
I’m begging you all, please report stuff that breaks the community rules and/or TOS - no one needs to put up with that nonsense.
No idea what the comment said, but yes, modern star trek does push a narrative… selectively. Like, at the start of Disco, they got it perfect. Gay engineer, gay doctor. No big focus, no “OMG, YOURE GAY???”. They were just there. Doing their jobs. It was, for lack of a better word, normal.
Fast forward a couple of years, and that way of doing things goes out the window. Inserting a non binary character and trans character. Why? Dont know. Because by this time, sex reassignment surgery is not a big deal. It can be done in an afternoon, and youre out the door with no down time. We saw this with Quark in DS9. As for the non binary character, it wouldnt be an issue except for the fact of how they focused on it. They have this scene where they demand to be referred to as “they” and then Stamets beams with pride at the person standing up for themselves. But again, this is Star trek. Non binary is nothing new to humans in this time period. The exchange should have been no different than correcting someone with Dr if someone calls you Mr.
And this is the problem with modern Star Trek. Star Trek in the 60s and 90s showed us a hopeful vision of who we could be. NuTrek shows us who we are. And we already have plenty of other TV shows for that.
If you want to push the straight agenda, you have Hallmark movies.
