• Formfiller@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Breaking: ICE is afraid that Americans will start exercising their second amendment rights to protect their first and fourth amendment rights from a tyrannical pedofile protecting uncontrolled secret police

  • Warl0k3@lemmy.world
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    9 months ago

    Guys, The Halfway Post is a satire website. “America’s #1 source for Dada news”. Lotta people eating the onion in this comment section.

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      9 months ago

      Especially when, sadly, we all know DHS will 100% get a Federal judge or SCOTUS to make this LEO-only OK and let them shoot anyone they want driving, walking, or looking towards them.

    • AbsolutelyNotAVelociraptor@sh.itjust.works
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      9 months ago

      Mate, have you read the news in the last months, with special attention to the first days of this year? I understand it’s satire and it’s not real, but right now, people are having a really hard time to distinguish satire from real news.

      • Warl0k3@lemmy.world
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        9 months ago

        One of the biggest reasons why everything sucks right now is the prevelance of misinformation online. This isn’t even trying to be misinformation, it took me literally five seconds to confirm that this is from a satire website, and yet when I posted it every other comment was engaging with this as though it were factual reporting.

        I know everything sucks right now, but we can’t start freely accepting lies as truth just because we’re tired. If we do that, we lose completely.

    • Rothe@piefed.social
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      9 months ago

      It reveals itself as satire when it assumed US citizens would actively fight the fascists. They are way too lethargic and complacent to ever do anything of the sort.

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    9 months ago

    That’s why civilization exists you dumb fucks. You start tearing it down and violence is all that’s left.

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        9 months ago

        Was your comment intended to suggest a better term than “civilization” was “society”? That is probably a valid correction and I need to brush up on my vocabulary before I have angry anti fascism outbursts on the interwebs.

    • SpookyBogMonster@lemmy.ml
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      9 months ago

      Eh, can’t say I agree with Thomas Hobbes on this. ICE is acting in the exact opposite of the state of nature, they’re the violent arm of the sovereign

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        9 months ago

        That’s a blatant misunderstanding of what a Hobbesian sovereign is. According to Hobbes, a sovereign is a form of body politic derived from the consent of the governed. People form civilizations, understanding that by abiding by common agreements they can mutually improve the conditions and circumstances of their lives. Everyone is safer when we agree not to kill each other, and anyone who violates that norm loses the protection of the social contract. Hence, capital punishment as a penalty for murder.

        What ICE is doing is violating the social contract and acting without the consent of the governed (bypassing congressional approval/oversight, ignoring established laws and constitutional rights, etc.). In effect, they’re regressing us back to the conditions of the state of nature in which “might makes right” and “survival of the fittest,” conditions which the social contract originated in order to overcome.

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          9 months ago

          That Goebbels-looking-ass dude literally said “might makes right” on a live TV interview.

  • Petter1@discuss.tchncs.de
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    9 months ago

    You could use this argument in both ways:

    1: this has to prosecuted so that agent is guilty in order to set precedence so that copy cases result in guilty as well

    2: this has to be prosecuted so that agent is not guilty so that people fear for their lives and stay away from ICE

    While one of those is very unpleasant…

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    9 months ago

    Nothing to do with headline which was already confusing, because brownshirts were volunteers. ICE is a US army division deployed to silence dissent, under cover of being a purely anti-immigrant enforcement army division. The National Guard becomes a force protection service for ICE. The brownshirts were paramilitary meaning a technically independent of government group even if they get “informal” government funding which leaders can optionally fund pay to “soldiers”. ICE is simply government salaried and controlled soldiers.