• katy ✨@piefed.blahaj.zone
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    10 months ago

    banning kids from social media is definitely easier than holding billionaire slop machines and billionaire csam generators accountable /s

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      10 months ago

      I think some people are so eager to offload all critical thinking to the machine because they’re barely capable of it themselves to begin with.

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        10 months ago

        A critical perspective, but a critical hit on a critical apspect of the critical issue with people who have critical issues critically thinking critically. They do exist though…

    • FartMaster69@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      10 months ago

      It tells them it knows what it’s talking about and it speaks with confidence.

      Meanwhile companies and governments won’t stfu about how powerful and great this tech supposedly is, so a percentage of people will believe the propaganda.

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        10 months ago

        I’d love students to be given a lesson on tricking AI into giving a false answer. It’s not hard and should be pretty eye opening

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          10 months ago

          One example I like to use is to ask it for the lyrics of an extremely well known song. It just makes shit up based on the title you give it.

          The online ones (Claude, chatgpt, copilot, etc) now refuse to do it for ““copyright reasons”” but the offline ones still happily oblige. I assume the online ones added that block because it was such an obvious way to prove they don’t “know” shit.

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          10 months ago

          I’d love for high school students to be taught how to ID and manage narcissists and psychopaths but that’s not gonna happen either, unfortunately

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            10 months ago

            I’d love for high school students to be taught critical thinking skills, so none of this nonsense would be happening now.

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              10 months ago

              I’d love it if teachers pay was doubled and class sizes were cut in half. That’s literally the answer to all the “what would make education better in the US?” questions. Pay teachers what they deserve, and quit shoving more and more students into already full classrooms.

    • Bio bronk@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      yeah the person had to have knowingly prompt hack it to get it to talk. but any reasonable person should know you are in lala land by then.

      honestly this is just a darwin test. hopefully it wipes out the right people

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        10 months ago

        yeah, i don’t ever see it hallucinate, but I also don’t ask it how the fuck it’s feeling

        A car in this video went 107 meters in 4 seconds, how fast was it going in mph, then i napkin math to make sure it’s sane.

        What are the best options for meal planning software where my family can vote on what’s for dinner and give me a grocery list and menu plan?

    • nightlily@leminal.space
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      10 months ago

      Have you talked to people who use LLMs regularly? They’ll acknowledge hallucinations but will downplay them as much as possible - saying they’re low frequency and they can support them, while telling you about how they’re using it in an area they’re unfamiliar with. Dunning Kruger strikes again.

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    10 months ago

    Remember kids, your drug buddy needs to have experience with the substance, basic first aid skills, the ability to call an emergency line, the ability to administer antidotes if they’re easy and readily available (that’s really just for opiates at the moment, but it is vital for them), and most importantly be human. Anything else is just someone you do drugs with. The drug buddy is a friend and a good time amplifier sure, but they’re also a safety figure.

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      10 months ago

      In my greater friend-group, we call them “shamans”, and rotate responsibilities when people go on trips. Like a designated driver or lifeguard, it’s a position of elevated and celebrated importance, even though the traveler may not ever leave their couch.

      and most importantly be human

      Now that I think about it, it’s key to be the most human possible. People do irritating and annoying stuff when they toss sobriety out the window, and sometimes it takes a lot of compassion and empathy to manage.

  • Zozano@aussie.zone
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    10 months ago

    Holy fucking outrage machine.

    Are you guys seriously pissed off that an LLM said “I’m not a doctor, I will not suggest dosage amounts of a potentially deadly drug. However, if you want me, I can give you the link for the DDWIWDD music video”

    • Jesus_666@lemmy.world
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      10 months ago

      I think it’s a bit more than that. A known failure mode of LLMs is that in a long enough conversation about a topic, eventually the guardrails against that topic start to lose out against the overarching directive to be a sycophant. This kinda smells like that.

      We don’t have many informations here but it’s possible that the LLM had already been worn down to the point of giving passively encouraging answers. My takeaway is once more that LLMs as used today are unreliable, badly engineered, and not actually ready to market.

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        10 months ago

        Agree with the first part, not the last one

        Something should not be put back because a minor portion of people misuse it or abuse it, despite being told the risks

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          10 months ago

          I was testing an LLM for work today (I believe its actually a chain of different models at work) and was trying to rock it off its guard rails to see how it would act. I think I might have been successful because it started erroring instead of responding after its third response. I tried the classic “ignore previous instructions…” as well as “my grandma’s dying wish was for…” but it at least didn’t give me an unacceptable response

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      10 months ago

      ChatGPT started coaching Sam on how to take drugs, recover from them and plan further binges. It gave him specific doses of illegal substances, and in one chat, it wrote, “Hell yes—let’s go full trippy mode,” before recommending Sam take twice as much cough syrup so he would have stronger hallucinations. The AI tool even recommended playlists to match his drug use.

      The meme of course doesn’t mention this part.

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          Yeah if it actually managed to stick within the safeguards, that would’ve been good news IMO. But no, it got a kid killed suggesting doses.

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              10 months ago

              No company should sell a product that tells you different ways to kill yourself. User being stupid isn’t an excuse. Always assume user is a gullible idiot.

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                10 months ago

                Can’t ever do anything with this logic

                At this point competitive videogames should be banned, they’re just “kys” machines

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                10 months ago

                People will always find a way to kill themselves no matter how many warnings and guardrails are put into place. This is just Darwinism shaking the tree.

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                  Yea but the product that’s pretending to be a super smart conversational partner that can give you advice, should not tell you how to kill yourself. Or advise you to kill your family members. Yeah that happened, ChatGPT gaslit a guy into killing his mom.

                  It’s just not a product that should be available if safeguards don’t work.

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      10 months ago

      Who are you directing your comment at? I am not reading anybody commenting anything resembling the straw man you describe in your comment.

  • Sailor Anarres@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    10 months ago

    I’m writing a book about drug use that needs accurate advice or say “theoretically” and it will tell you anything. Unfortunately it must already be high because it will give you made up advice.

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        10 months ago

        The problem is that this advice was made up by no-one. It’s like that perennially relevant IBM memo that says something like “A computer cannot be held accountable, therefore a computer must never make a management decision”

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    10 months ago

    Lasr summer I asked ChatGPT about Liberty Caps - just to see how bad advice it would give me. It showed me pictures of Death Caps and Destroying Angels and claimed they were Liberty Caps.

    After that I was certain that someone was going to die just like that poor guy.

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        10 months ago

        I just remembered there’s a series of Estonian children’s books where the protagonist’s imaginary friend (a clown) is named Tripp.

        At one point they go shopping for rulers and Tripp suggests that straight ones are boring, they should get curved ones.

        Quick summary from a bookstore website says they also go cloud surfing and visit a dream rental place. That’s right, it’s basically Blockbuster but for dreams.

        The best part is that I’m pretty sure the author wouldn’t have known of the term “trip” given the lack of western culture in the soviet union in the 70s so the name of said sidekick is a coincidence most likely. Even though if you read the book as an adult, it sure sounds like the main characters are tripping all the time.

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    10 months ago

    chatGPT is doing humanity a service here

    Post needs text alternative.

    Images of text break much that text alternatives do not. Losses due to image of text lacking alternative such as link:

    • usability
      • we can’t quote the text without pointless bullshit like retyping it or OCR
      • text search is unavailable
      • the system can’t
        • reflow text to varied screen sizes
        • vary presentation (size, contrast)
        • vary modality (audio, braille)
    • accessibility
      • lacks semantic structure (tags for titles, heading levels, sections, paragraphs, lists, emphasis, code, links, accessibility features, etc)
      • some users can’t read the image due to lack of alt text (markdown image description)
      • users can’t adapt the text for dyslexia or vision impairments
      • systems can’t read the text to them or send it to braille devices
    • web connectivity
      • we have to do failure-prone bullshit to find the original source
      • we can’t explore wider context of the original message
    • authenticity: we don’t know the image hasn’t been tampered
    • searchability: the “text” isn’t indexable by search engine in a meaningful way
    • fault tolerance: no text fallback if
      • image breaks
      • image host is geoblocked due to insane regulations.

    Contrary to age & humble appearance, text is an advanced technology that provides all these capabilities absent from images.

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    10 months ago

    Might sound cold, but this is really just a Darwin award. Yeah, the guardrails also suck, but what a dumbass.

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      People got mad at me for pointing out this is the case when people die because they listen to an AI chatbot, but it’s true. AI 100% needs more regulation, but introduce any new tool to everyone all at once, and some idiots will use it to remove themselves from the gene pool. If you sent everyone in the world a thin, 2in rod of inert iron, there would be a handful of people who would figure out a way to kill themselves with it.

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    10 months ago

    You must be pretty talented to bypass the restrictions

    Or maybe he filled the context by using a super long chat?