Why did people hate ‘Santa Barbara’? Because it existed to churn out endless drama that led nowhere.
I haven’t watched ‘One Piece’ and not ever planning to, but there’s no way that over a thousand episodes that go on for twenty-six years deliver any kind of a meaningful story that gives me something to think about.
The visual style takes getting used to, it is 1999 Toei a few years after DBZ. The funny but deeply serious style also takes some getting used to. It’s similar to JoJo’s bizarre adventure in that way. Jarring and confusing if you don’t get it, but it quickly makes sense once you let down your walls. It’s goofy and charming and inspiring as hell.
I seriously think it’s really worth a real try. I’d be very interested to know your thoughts after even like… ten episodes, if you do try it.
First ep is an arc all on its own, the next three are another arc, and then the next few are into the next arc. They just get longer and deeper each arc, is what happens. Even thinking about it makes me want to rewatch it again. It’s so good.
Absolutely not. I’ve just recently watched the two seasons of ‘Severance’, wherein Ben Stiller evidently thought himself to be modern Kubrick. For the foreseeable future I’m not watching anything that’s more than ten episodes start to finish (with an exception for ‘Berlin Alexanderplatz’). I want stories where the author has something to say, with beginning and an end, and I have a large backlog of classic films.
I don’t know if you saw this meme that popped up here like a month ago
Edit: I want to add onto this that I think one of the big differences between one piece and other stuff is that one piece is a designed story. It has a start and a finish, it always has. Now, it isn’t over yet, so we’ll see. But just because something is long, does not mean it is bad. It often does, but it isn’t always the case.
I hate those shows where the first 3-6 episodes are just slow dramatic shots with no plot whatsoever
I vaguely remember some spy show where you didn’t learn any character names until episode 2
or those where if you didn’t read the book you haven’t the slightest clue what’s happening for basically the entire first season
I gave it up at season 2 when I first started watching.
Then I watched Better Call Saul years later and it was one of my all time favourites. Then I went back to Breaking Bad and liked it even better than Better Call Saul. Breaking Bad didn’t resonate with me initially and I’m so very glad I have it another chance.
The third season really became boring as fuck somewhere half through it. Totally missed the density and speed of the first season. I think the fact that they got a contract to produce five seasons made them stretch the plot to the point where basically nothing happened over certain episodes. Compare that with the speed in which the early plot moved…
Third season is where I gave up. First two were good but didn’t draw me in enough to slog through the absolute snooze fest of the third. I’ve never been interested in going back.
I’m completely up for watching average media. When did we become too good for average? 5/10 is enough for me to give something a shot. Maybe even 4/10 if someone tells me it had some nugget of value.
Oh, I watch “avg” shit all the time. Anaconda only got a 4 on imdb, that shit was amazing. I don’t trust the numbers always. And siskel and ebert rated tommy boy the worst movie they’ve ever seen. Lmao. They can’t be trusted with reviews.
BB was a little slow at times. For that reason I don’t think it was as great as some people make it out to be.
I liked Better Call Saul a lot more. Didn’t seem as slow. But also seems like they didn’t really finish it properly or wrap up all the story arcs, which was a bummer.
Interestingly, that was the episode that made me stop watching.
I suspect I just don’t normally like watching shows about miserable people making other miserable people even more miserable, which made the fact that I really enjoyed Boardwalk Empire a surprise.
Hm… yeah, I get that (not the part about Boardwalk Empire, haven’t seen that yet). Most people in BB are definitely miserable!
I liked BB a lot, especially on a second watch through many years later, but the main reason is probably just that I can understand why each character behaves the way they do - the writing is consistently “realistic” in a manner I haven’t really seen anywhere else with a comparable length.
do you make fun of your shows and shout “no don’t go in there” and whatnot and have puppet shows during breaks and pretend you are a little robot stuck in space (go watch Mystery Science Theater 3000 seriously) or do you sit in silence and enjoy cinema as critics and only the snootiest frenchmen demand cinema to be experienced? they’re both valid and fun, just y’know, they’re very different experiences
the mst3k experience is a little more fun for watching shows with hateable characters
My wife and I complain about shows constantly (I’m talking about the shows and movies we like!), pausing to point out every little thing, and I’m in absolutely no way a movie critic, in fact I hate most shows that critics like. If I was to watch a show where I hated every character I would be pausing every five seconds (this isn’t hyperbole, I’m being serious it would be every five seconds) to complain more and more. The show isn’t enjoyable when there’s literally zero reason to like anyone in it.
I agree about the fact that watching those type of shows is not enjoyable. But not everyone feels that way about Breaking Bad, including me. Yes the main characters do a lot of wrongs, but the writers do a good job at showing their humanity and didn’t portray them as “evil” people.
If it takes 30 episodes to not be boring, it’s not a good show.
BB wasn’t bad though, I just was completely unable to connect with it.
one piece is awesome bro, i swear bro you just have to sit through about 150 episodes bro where it’s kinda bad bro, but eventually it’s good bro.
I don’t get why people hate on one piece so much
Why did people hate ‘Santa Barbara’? Because it existed to churn out endless drama that led nowhere.
I haven’t watched ‘One Piece’ and not ever planning to, but there’s no way that over a thousand episodes that go on for twenty-six years deliver any kind of a meaningful story that gives me something to think about.
Ironically and chaotically: you should try it.
The visual style takes getting used to, it is 1999 Toei a few years after DBZ. The funny but deeply serious style also takes some getting used to. It’s similar to JoJo’s bizarre adventure in that way. Jarring and confusing if you don’t get it, but it quickly makes sense once you let down your walls. It’s goofy and charming and inspiring as hell.
I seriously think it’s really worth a real try. I’d be very interested to know your thoughts after even like… ten episodes, if you do try it.
First ep is an arc all on its own, the next three are another arc, and then the next few are into the next arc. They just get longer and deeper each arc, is what happens. Even thinking about it makes me want to rewatch it again. It’s so good.
Absolutely not. I’ve just recently watched the two seasons of ‘Severance’, wherein Ben Stiller evidently thought himself to be modern Kubrick. For the foreseeable future I’m not watching anything that’s more than ten episodes start to finish (with an exception for ‘Berlin Alexanderplatz’). I want stories where the author has something to say, with beginning and an end, and I have a large backlog of classic films.
I don’t know if you saw this meme that popped up here like a month ago
Edit: I want to add onto this that I think one of the big differences between one piece and other stuff is that one piece is a designed story. It has a start and a finish, it always has. Now, it isn’t over yet, so we’ll see. But just because something is long, does not mean it is bad. It often does, but it isn’t always the case.
yesssssss
I hate those shows where the first 3-6 episodes are just slow dramatic shots with no plot whatsoever
I vaguely remember some spy show where you didn’t learn any character names until episode 2
or those where if you didn’t read the book you haven’t the slightest clue what’s happening for basically the entire first season
I gave it up at season 2 when I first started watching.
Then I watched Better Call Saul years later and it was one of my all time favourites. Then I went back to Breaking Bad and liked it even better than Better Call Saul. Breaking Bad didn’t resonate with me initially and I’m so very glad I have it another chance.
The third season really became boring as fuck somewhere half through it. Totally missed the density and speed of the first season. I think the fact that they got a contract to produce five seasons made them stretch the plot to the point where basically nothing happened over certain episodes. Compare that with the speed in which the early plot moved…
Third season is where I gave up. First two were good but didn’t draw me in enough to slog through the absolute snooze fest of the third. I’ve never been interested in going back.
‘Severance’ must have like fifty seasons planned.
Did you watch the movie el camino after bb? We just finished both for probably the 5th time, will watch bcs again this summer.
I haven’t. Thats for the recommendation. I’ve added it to my watchlist.
It’s not a great movie, but it wraps up Jessie’s story pretty well. I liked it. Solid 7 in the BB universe.
I’m completely up for watching average media. When did we become too good for average? 5/10 is enough for me to give something a shot. Maybe even 4/10 if someone tells me it had some nugget of value.
Oh, I watch “avg” shit all the time. Anaconda only got a 4 on imdb, that shit was amazing. I don’t trust the numbers always. And siskel and ebert rated tommy boy the worst movie they’ve ever seen. Lmao. They can’t be trusted with reviews.
BB was a little slow at times. For that reason I don’t think it was as great as some people make it out to be.
I liked Better Call Saul a lot more. Didn’t seem as slow. But also seems like they didn’t really finish it properly or wrap up all the story arcs, which was a bummer.
Exactly, well written, well acted but the absence of sympathetic protagonists killed it for me. I just couldn’t care.
I liked that they weren’t afraid to have the main character so unlikable. It also made more sense after I realized it was a Neo-Western.
I remember watching it. I don’t remember anything about it.
The joke is that episode 30 “Fly” is famously the lowest-rated episode of the series. At 7.9/10.
That’s 0.9 higher than the best-scored episode of Starfleet Academy.
Interestingly, that was the episode that made me stop watching.
I suspect I just don’t normally like watching shows about miserable people making other miserable people even more miserable, which made the fact that I really enjoyed Boardwalk Empire a surprise.
Guess there must be some other element to it.
Hm… yeah, I get that (not the part about Boardwalk Empire, haven’t seen that yet). Most people in BB are definitely miserable!
I liked BB a lot, especially on a second watch through many years later, but the main reason is probably just that I can understand why each character behaves the way they do - the writing is consistently “realistic” in a manner I haven’t really seen anywhere else with a comparable length.
a slice-of-life of their insane and frustrating day to day locked away at that lab. it’s fine, it conveys exactly what it needs to.
It’s my fave ❤️😁🤌
I hate watching shows where you’re supposed to hate everyone. BB is one of those shows. Like how is that entertainment?
do you MST3K comment on your shows or do you sit back and take them in?
I don’t know what your sentence means.
do you make fun of your shows and shout “no don’t go in there” and whatnot and have puppet shows during breaks and pretend you are a little robot stuck in space (go watch Mystery Science Theater 3000 seriously) or do you sit in silence and enjoy cinema as critics and only the snootiest frenchmen demand cinema to be experienced? they’re both valid and fun, just y’know, they’re very different experiences
the mst3k experience is a little more fun for watching shows with hateable characters
My wife and I complain about shows constantly (I’m talking about the shows and movies we like!), pausing to point out every little thing, and I’m in absolutely no way a movie critic, in fact I hate most shows that critics like. If I was to watch a show where I hated every character I would be pausing every five seconds (this isn’t hyperbole, I’m being serious it would be every five seconds) to complain more and more. The show isn’t enjoyable when there’s literally zero reason to like anyone in it.
I agree about the fact that watching those type of shows is not enjoyable. But not everyone feels that way about Breaking Bad, including me. Yes the main characters do a lot of wrongs, but the writers do a good job at showing their humanity and didn’t portray them as “evil” people.