A new federal bill proposes OS-level age verification, advancing beyond state laws to establish a potential nationwide requirement.
  • bagsy@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    7 months ago

    They cant even define an OS. Do i need a fucking login for my wifi fridge and toaster. Such a stupid ffucking law.

    • nosuchanon@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      7 months ago

      Why does a fridge need to connect to the Internet? Or a toaster? Why does my toothbrush need Bluetooth?

      • ripcord@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        7 months ago

        OK, how about my surveillance cam? NAS appliance? My WiFi light controller? Network switch? They all run Linux.

        • nosuchanon@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          7 months ago

          Well now you have to provide ID to use any of those.

          This is just another form of control and a potential verified data stream for governments/corporations/marketers.

          How can you prove that internet traffic is a human and not a bot? ID verification.

          How can you generate more user data? Force them to provide ID for every device that is connected.

          Want to control piracy? Easy with OS level ID requirements.

            • nosuchanon@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              7 months ago

              They will repurpose the same security chips that make digital payments and OS verification soon enough. Then you cannot bypass digital ID because it is on the hardware level.

              Seems they are starting with software compliance to see who will voluntarily do their dirty work for them. Assume that M$ and App£€ will comply while making it difficult for smaller independent developers to comply thus removing any privacy options.

              Same with Win11, force people to upgrade working tech because it lack hardware security chip support. Call it “anti-piracy” or “security updates” and force people to comply.

              • endlesseden@pyfedi.deep-rose.orgEnglish
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                7 months ago

                ms, google(android) and apple have already implemented this. it’s waiting to go live. there was a discussion about it quite a while ago.

                that’s what this infrastructure is for. all of these bills are written with google/ms/apple accounts with subusers in mind.

                California one doesn’t even have language to let adults have a user legally…

                ultimately I think it’s apple/ms working with meta hoping to force people to use Thier software

  • AA5B@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    7 months ago

    Finally, torrenting Linux distros becomes a thing, rather than a curiosity

  • Sprinks@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    7 months ago

    I feel like OS age verification is similar to when they started asking for zip codes at checkout (U.S.). At first it was seen as weird and brushed off as harmless, but now they shamelessly ask for your email and phone number and get annoyed when you say no.

  • phx@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    7 months ago

    The ONLY way I could remotely support age verification is if it was anonymized from the individual, similar to how companies like Mullvad do their VPN or with prepaid gift cards etc

    You get a card that has a PIN behind a scratch-off section. You can buy the card for cash or order online, but there’s nothing tying the buyer to the card.

    Age verification can be similar where you go to a registered location, provide valid ID and like $5 to get a scratch off card. The code on the card just validates “user is 18+” but otherwise has no ties back to their actual identity.

    If a site wants to do an age check, it can validate the card PIN or on phone potentially scan a 3d barcode behind the scratch-off. Maybe some hash check could be involved to avoid the need for a centralized provider.

    • Virtvirt588@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      7 months ago

      Don’t worry, if it all goes as planned it will even have a gender or even race verification; for your protection.

  • Eggyhead@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    7 months ago

    Don’t want to compete with a potentially capable Linux? Pay the government to make it illegal!

    • phutatorius@lemmy.zipEnglish
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      7 months ago

      There’s already being work done to add an optional age-attestation in systemd.

      And note that none of the laws proposed so far are actually verifying age, they’re only requiring someone to enter it. That’s attestation, not verification. Verification will be the next tightening of the screw.