• Billegh@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    If it were any good, I’ll hear about it from something that wasn’t an ad block or sponsored message.

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      4 months ago

      Not enough people know that thinking this way does not protect you. It just gives you that pleasant hit of smugness.

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        4 months ago

        I don’t know what you’re smoking, but knowing of fum is never going to make me buy fum.

        The fact they’re pushed all over tells me one incontrovertible thing: Their profit margins are high enough to give them that bloated budget, meaning buying a product that’s advertised all over is choosing to get ripped off.

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          The point is not that you’ll see fum and pick it because you recall an ad. The point is that you need any fum-type product, don’t really care which, and your hand reaches for fum while you’re busy thinking about the stupid thing you said in a pub yesterday, or wondering if it’s going to rain.

          Don’t need fum or anything similar? Congrats! You’re not the target group. Doesn’t mean ads don’t work on you.

          • LurkingLuddite@piefed.social
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            Weird how you assume people blindly grab products without thinking.

            That is the behavior of morons and rich people (I repeat myself) that don’t need to care about what they throw money at.

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              Cognitive distortions like present bias, emotional reasoning, temporal distancing, opportunity cost blindness, reinforcement loops, all these are factors in why people behave impulsively when presented with an opportunity. Addressing how each individual justifies them in their habits and behaviors is the foundation of Cognitive Behavioral Therapy. The behavior is not limited to the mentally challenged or the rich, it’s the result of being human but lacking insight and understanding on why you do what you do when you do it, what you hope to gain from doing it, weighing the risk/reward, and developing the self-awareness to question your behaviors before you act upon them.

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      I don’t think that it’s that people don’t think that way, companies know that. It’s that the company is hoping that when the customer needs a service the name comes up. It’s a play at the human subconscious. How many ads do you watch that you are able to remember you heard of the service from an ad vs just passing discussion. I can only think of NordVPN and a few insurance companies, they rely on that. They hope that when an issue comes up that requires it, that their name pops up without the negative mentality behind it.

      I agree though, I go off the mindset that if I am looking for a product and the first thing that comes to mind is “I saw this in an ad” that means there was enough advertisement budget that I could consciously link it to the ad and not the product, which means there is a massive red flag for the product there.

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    Is this a neurodivergence thing?

    I have no source, but I swear I found some study that negatively correlates neurodivergence with advertising effectiveness.

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      https://neurolaunch.com/adhd-ads/

      I can’t find the study you’re talking about, but I see lots of blog posts from marketing shitheads like the above that feel they have a moral obligation to be inclusive and make advertisements specifically tailored to NDs. It is “unethical”, apparently. Strange fucking ethics when the whole goal of advertising is to manipulate people into buying shit they don’t need or want.

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        Yk what would be inclusive? Not making ads! Strange right? If ya don’t shove me a totally unreleated content in my face, i will get distracted less! Damn, innovative right?

        Fuck marketing shitheads

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      4 months ago

      Yep.

      Absolutely everything that has a huge, pervasive ad campaign is some kind of scam or just shitty product. Not a single good, helpful product was ever advertised so heavily.

    • LurkingLuddite@piefed.social
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      Not just that, but if they’re throwing sponsorships and ads all over, it means they have a huge advertising budget. That almost always means their profit margins are unusually high.

      Meaning they’re a ripoff even if the product isn’t a scam.

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        Or it means they just got a bunch of VC money and are looking to chain you up before exploiting the shit out of you.

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      yeah exactly xD

      i feel like advertisement should only be allowed once that you’re actually looking for that / a similar product. because otherwise the advertisement is completely irrelevant to you anyways, so why do they show it to you?!?

      like if i search for “smartphone charging cable” i can be shown like 50 different brands of smartphone chargers. but if i don’t search for it, why would i know about them? i’m not gonna buy a new smartphone charger anytime soon.

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        The reason many of them (a charging brand like anker for example) do this is to get name recognition. If you see their name in 200 sponsors, and a year later you are looking for a charger, you see a familiar name in those 50 brands when you want to buy one, and subconsciously you trust it more than the brands you haven’t heard about.

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    Nothing gets me less interested in spending money on a brand than having it constantly advertised to me.

    I dunno, maybe I got some gene that inverses the reaction I’m supposed to have, because repeated advertising supposedly works really well.

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      I think the problem is that you think that, while a majority of people think little, if at all. Dumb people and kids for example.

      There are enough people who just consume media without reflecting for ads to work, or ads would simply disappear. Companies know how to use statistics.

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      i think for me it’s just that i get angry at the brand if they try to shove it down my throat. like, the arrogance, it feels a lot like violation of consent, if i already made my mind up that i don’t like their product, being advertised again feels like something that should make me angry.

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    4 months ago

    Hey guys, I just want to tell you I’ve been having a “blast” playing RAID SHADOW LEGENDS! The game that plays itself when you’re not even there!

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      Hey! If anything is going to be playing itself in my house it’s going to be me.

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      I remember on Nintendo Switch was some kirby game. I had been moderately excited for the game. So when it came out I tried the demo. I’m glad I did. Now, Kirby games have always been known to be easy. Maybe too easy. But this game took it too far. It gives you 3 AI friends, or real friends can control those characters with multiplayer.

      I played the first level, which is the whole demo, and it was fine. So then I tried playing the demo again, to see if I think it would have been better if I played with real people. I set the controller down, and the game played itself. I’m not even touching the controller, and I beat the demo.

      I decided not to buy the game, because it plays itself.

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    Jokes on them, I stay away from all products that advertise to me unless I need said product and go searching for it.

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    Unironically, this is why I unsubbed from NordVPN. I decided there must be some issues with it that I wasn’t aware of. Then a few years later I learned there was a major data breach the year before I signed up, but it never made it into my news.

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    The exception to this is if I already bought the product and like it (like with my new pants). Then, I’ll keep buying the product but still be annoyed by the ads. I’m not spending the effort to find ad-free pants when it was such a pain to find acceptable pants in the first place. I do wish they’d stop trying to sell to me, though. I already own 5 pairs!

    (LPT: scrub pants can look office professional and have real pockets, even if you wear femme cuts.)

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    Gamer Sups. I only vaguely know what they are (some sort of food?), but the number of ads I see for it make me think I don’t want to know any more about it.

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      Its powdered energy drink powder and a few other related products.

      I personally rather like it then again I am addicted ti caffeine

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    And yet again, the never ending confusion over “why the fuck is everyone choosing to see ads?” question comes up. When I came here to Lemmy I really thought I’d never se any posts about complaining about ads because all you need to never see one is having the tech literacy just slightly above grandma level. Yet here we are, with weekly posts like this.
    And to be clear, I absolutely agree with the comic but it’s most if the comments here that’s the issue. Why are you people not even firing a single brain cell to decrease the amount of ads you see? They’re clearly an annoyance, but they’re also INCREDIBLY easy to get rid of.

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      It’s not just ads. Every video on YouTube is sponsored in the video itself. You can skip the sponsor spots usually but they mention it multiple times.

      You’re right though, everyone should block advertising and tracking at the router level.

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      I think people like to see marketing as an art when in reality it is more of a science. Ads are engineered to be cost effective, and the design simply follows from that incentive. By taking up any of your attention, even if it’s in the background, even if it’s a small patch on an athlete’s uniform, it will help the product sell. If it didn’t, advertisers wouldn’t have put it there.

      They have more data than you, they are smarter than you, and all they care about is selling their product. You are a tool to boost profit, even if you don’t directly give them money, your attention is all they need.

      Like, this comic is actually a good example of how an anti-consumption response to an ad can actually help sales. If she never knew about Dragon Marrow, she wouldn’t be opposed to it, but you will inevitably just give Dragon Marrow free marketing every time you talk negatively about them. You may drive a majority of people that hear you complain away from it, but maybe one or two of your friends decide to try it anyways, people who would not have heard of it until you complained.

      Attention is the goal, not a specific emotional response. You can’t outsmart an ad by watching it.

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      Consider that there are instances where it’s not practical to remove ads. I could get a new podcasts app with Sponsorblock integrated, but I already have the app I like all set up and I’m fine with skipping them manually. Some may filter through but so what.

      Same with YT videos with Sponsorblock where you’re early and you’re the one doing people the favor. You have to listen at least part of the ad to mark the time block.

      Or sometimes Twitch breaks uBO and you don’t realize until you’re served an ad and you have to wait for the devs to fix it. There’s no simple way of getting around it if you enjoy certain streamers.

      It’s not that we don’t try, but not everyone is capable or interested in insulating their entertainment. There are many factors at play.

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        Wait there’s a podcast app that blocks ads?

        where?

        80% of the podcasts I have, I haven’t listened to because I listen to them at night and the ads being 50% louder than the podcast basically make them annoying jumpscares.

        And I haven’t found anything that blocks ads on podcasts

        • Axolotl@feddit.it
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          Try Metrolist, it’s mainly thought for music but you can also ear podcasts and it’s totally ad-free, it uses YT music as source and it’s totally open source too!

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            Nice - I see they have a build specifically for obtanium too!

            Do they do a sponsorblock thing basically too? I’m not sure how many of my podcasts are on YouTube since I use RSS 😅

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              No, they don’t, i think, i never used it for podcasts but you can just do a feature request on github or discors and they may implement it sooner or later

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                Just updating here for others - it does seem they have sponsorblock as well! And not only that but they also have audio normalization which is great for podcasts as well

                Thanks @Axolotl_cpp !

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      A problem with uBlock, SponsorBlock, DeArrow, etc., is that it makes viewing sites and videos by greedy assholes bearable, instead of making us boycott the assholes.

      I do use uBlock (and SponsorBlock built into a program, along with a site that let’s me avoid YouTube’s site); but I really should be boycotting some sites and video channels.

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        Imma be real calling content creators “greedy assholes” for taking sponsors that are the only way to make it financially viable other than patreon while expecting to consume their content for 0 just sounds like peak entitlement

        Unless you do actually support creators directly in which case go ahead. And I do in fact recommend just not watching people that you judge to actually be greedy assholes, never once regretted that.

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          I’m torn there. Im from the old internet where we all just fucked about and had fun. I dont think any of the end-users asked them to quit their jobs and invest their money into editing equipment.

          Obviously they need paid for their work, but why is it work? What happened here?