Yet, the so called “christians” love to tell anyone not straight how unholy their “thing” is; why if god loves you unconditionally? They also love to convert (or try to) other people to their faith; why do so if god loves you without conditions?
Genesis 1.27 says he created us to his own image. Are you suggesting then that god is not human shaped? Then, can we say it is dog shaped?
We are told not to judge, but to leave it to Him to judge, but we can point out the sin in our brothers and sisters so they may hate it and turn away from it, and love is not letting others fall into sin, it is pointing out their sin but only so they themselves may hate it and turn away from it, not to mock shame them. And if a father loves his child unconditionally, and the child wants to leave the house and run off into the forest to be devoured by the wolves, can the father stop them? Bind them as a slave? No.
God created us in His spiritual image, by giving a rational soul.
thats the thing, God has already revealed to us the sins, so we can call them out within ourselves and our brothers and sisters so we dont need to judge by ourselves
We are told not to judge, but to leave it to Him to judge, but we can point out the sin in our brothers and sisters so they may hate it and turn away from it, and love is not letting others fall into sin, it is pointing out their sin but only so they themselves may hate it and turn away from it, not to mock shame them. And if a father loves his child unconditionally, and the child wants to leave the house and run off into the forest to be devoured by the wolves, can the father stop them? Bind them as a slave? No.
But that would make the bolded part unnecessary, yet you seem to say that it is good to do it.
So why is it that only christians are trying to screw non-straight people lives by taking away their rights, and messing with them denying medical care to them ii you are told to “not enlsave them”? And why is it that only christians want to deport any non-white person in the us? And why is it that only christians want to have a say in everybody’s lives even if those people don’t want anything to do with your god? Why don’t you see an atheist trying to ban day-after pills? Or medical abortions or rape abortions? Why is it that only christians want to have a say in the body of a woman? If your god loves us inconditionally, why doesn’t he love a gay person? Are you telling me that god consider’s a sin to love a person of the same sex? Under what basis? Is it worse than pre-maritage sex? Is it worse than working on sundays? Is it worse than cheating?
Got it, so god is not human-shaped. Hence it can be dog-shaped. How do you know the shape of god?
A bunch of non christians are trumpers, and the Pope has condemned his war on Iran. And I think murder is bad. The Bible reveals to us homosexuality is a sin but He loves you even if you sin. Homosexuality is a sin as marriage is between a man and woman, and pre marital sex is a sin as it perverts our very nature and relationship with God and our neighbours.
God is omnipotent, and He exists outside of space, time and our very being. I dont know his shape and I dont even think we can comprehend him if we saw his true form, Ezekiel was shown only his back and he was righteous ever since
I’m sorry, but I find self-hating queer Christians to be comically ridiculous.
Here’s my theological process:
If there is a god, he/she/it clearly makes queer/gay/trans people. Folks are clearly born with these traits.
God made queer/trans people because God wants there to be queer/trans people.
Any interpretation of scripture that concludes being queer is a sin is false by default. I refuse to believe in a creator that would create people hard wired a certain way, and then in turn punish them for acting the very way he made them. That’s not the work of a benevolent God. That’s the work of a psychopath. Really, that’s the work of the Devil.
If you believe being queer is a sin, you’re worshiping an evil god. You may as well be praying to Satan.
Being queer isn’t a sin. Any scriptural justifications for this are false. It’s no different than if someone came to me and told me that they had a Biblical interpretation that said killing children was OK. (I’m talking actual children, not fetuses.) If someone tells me they have some convoluted Biblical analysis that makes killing children OK, I’m not even going to humor such an argument. I refuse to believe in a deity that would condone murdering children. I refuse to believe in a god that would make people a certain way, and then harshly punish them just for acting the very way he made them to be.
Being queer isn’t a sin. If you think it is, you’re worshiping the Devil.
Adam and Eve ate the apple after being tempted by Satan, who had the sin of Pride and was thrown out of heaven for it. It is still eaten everyday.
God didnt want sin to exist, but he gave Satan free will and he revolted against God and tried to “overthrow” Him and was thrown out of heaven and then he tempted Adam and Eve to eat the apple
By this logic, God “wanted” sin to exist, which is contradictory to the Bible, By this logic sin doesnt even exist and there is no evil.
I reject any religion that tells me that good people, acting out of love, without hurting anyone is sinful. Sorry, that’s the definition of a demonic ideology. I don’t care at all what any book say. My first litmus test for any religion is whether it wants me to believe in evil.
The Bible couldn’t even get slavery right. It’s useless as a source of virtue on anything.
Sorry, I know good from evil. I know two adults loving each other is not evil. Any human who believes consensual love is wrong is a monster. And I expect God to be better than humans. Take that “sin of pride” crap and shove it. I know right from wrong. After all, that was the whole point of the fruit.
And when God comes here and personally tells me his morals, you have a point. But all you have is a book written by people you don’t understand, in an era completely alien to your own, written for purposes you can’t comprehend, that’s been retranslated and copied a thousand times over. If there was ever divine knowledge there, it’s been corrupted by centuries of bigots writing their own biases into scripture.
Sorry, you worship an evil version of Christianity. Your God is a demon.
We are told not to judge, but to leave it to Him to judge, but we can point out the sin in our brothers and sisters so they may hate it and turn away from it, and love is not letting others fall into sin, it is pointing out their sin but only so they themselves may hate it and turn away from it, not to mock shame them. And if a father loves his child unconditionally, and the child wants to leave the house and run off into the forest to be devoured by the wolves, can the father stop them? Bind them as a slave? No.
God created us in His spiritual image, by giving a rational soul.
Judging doesn’t just mean being negative about something. It means telling someone that what they do is bad, or wrong.
Which is what you describe as not judging.
thats the thing, God has already revealed to us the sins, so we can call them out within ourselves and our brothers and sisters so we dont need to judge by ourselves
But that would make the bolded part unnecessary, yet you seem to say that it is good to do it.
A bunch of non christians are trumpers, and the Pope has condemned his war on Iran. And I think murder is bad. The Bible reveals to us homosexuality is a sin but He loves you even if you sin. Homosexuality is a sin as marriage is between a man and woman, and pre marital sex is a sin as it perverts our very nature and relationship with God and our neighbours.
God is omnipotent, and He exists outside of space, time and our very being. I dont know his shape and I dont even think we can comprehend him if we saw his true form, Ezekiel was shown only his back and he was righteous ever since
I’m sorry, but I find self-hating queer Christians to be comically ridiculous.
Here’s my theological process:
If there is a god, he/she/it clearly makes queer/gay/trans people. Folks are clearly born with these traits.
God made queer/trans people because God wants there to be queer/trans people.
Any interpretation of scripture that concludes being queer is a sin is false by default. I refuse to believe in a creator that would create people hard wired a certain way, and then in turn punish them for acting the very way he made them. That’s not the work of a benevolent God. That’s the work of a psychopath. Really, that’s the work of the Devil.
If you believe being queer is a sin, you’re worshiping an evil god. You may as well be praying to Satan.
Being queer isn’t a sin. Any scriptural justifications for this are false. It’s no different than if someone came to me and told me that they had a Biblical interpretation that said killing children was OK. (I’m talking actual children, not fetuses.) If someone tells me they have some convoluted Biblical analysis that makes killing children OK, I’m not even going to humor such an argument. I refuse to believe in a deity that would condone murdering children. I refuse to believe in a god that would make people a certain way, and then harshly punish them just for acting the very way he made them to be.
Being queer isn’t a sin. If you think it is, you’re worshiping the Devil.
Adam and Eve ate the apple after being tempted by Satan, who had the sin of Pride and was thrown out of heaven for it. It is still eaten everyday.
God didnt want sin to exist, but he gave Satan free will and he revolted against God and tried to “overthrow” Him and was thrown out of heaven and then he tempted Adam and Eve to eat the apple
By this logic, God “wanted” sin to exist, which is contradictory to the Bible, By this logic sin doesnt even exist and there is no evil.
Thus it is flawed
I reject any religion that tells me that good people, acting out of love, without hurting anyone is sinful. Sorry, that’s the definition of a demonic ideology. I don’t care at all what any book say. My first litmus test for any religion is whether it wants me to believe in evil.
The Bible couldn’t even get slavery right. It’s useless as a source of virtue on anything.
funny how you set yourself as the moral judge and not God
the sin of Pride
Sorry, I know good from evil. I know two adults loving each other is not evil. Any human who believes consensual love is wrong is a monster. And I expect God to be better than humans. Take that “sin of pride” crap and shove it. I know right from wrong. After all, that was the whole point of the fruit.
And when God comes here and personally tells me his morals, you have a point. But all you have is a book written by people you don’t understand, in an era completely alien to your own, written for purposes you can’t comprehend, that’s been retranslated and copied a thousand times over. If there was ever divine knowledge there, it’s been corrupted by centuries of bigots writing their own biases into scripture.
Sorry, you worship an evil version of Christianity. Your God is a demon.