On August 15, 1996, a discarded consecrated Host was placed in water according to standard protocol. Instead of dissolving, it developed reddish tissue and grew.
The Archbishop who ordered the investigation was Jorge Bergoglio — now Pope Francis
Dr. Ricardo Castañón Gómez, a former atheist, coordinated the scientific analysis
A tissue sample was sent to New York for blind testing
The primary examiner was Dr. Frederick Zugibe, a secular forensicpathologistt and cardiologist at Columbia University
He was not told where the sample came from or what it had been
The Witness
Zugibe analyzed the tissue and identified it as human heart muscle — specifically from the myocardium of the left ventricle near the heart valves.
He found intact, active white blood cells — cells that typically disintegrate within 15 minutes outside a living body
Professor John Walker (University of Sydney) later confirmed intact white blood cells in the same tissue six years after the event
The blood type was AB, matching the Lanciano relic and the Shroud of Turin
When Zugibe was finally told the sample came from a communion wafer that had been sitting in water for three years, he stated: “How and why a piece of a human heart is still alive, sitting in distilled water, is totally beyond my comprehension.”
For living white blood cells to be present in heart muscle from a Host that had been in water for three years defies the known laws of biology. The tissue showed no decomposition. The sample was submitted blind to a secular forensic scientist who had no theological investment in the result.
The Skeptic’s Rebuttal
Skeptics raise two objections. First, they invoke Serratia marcescens — a common red-pigmented bacterium that thrives in damp environments like a wafer in water, and has been blamed for nearly every “bleeding host” in history. Second, they attack the chain of custody: the sample sat in a jar in Argentina for three years before being sent to New York. A skeptic will say: “I don’t doubt Dr. Zugibe analyzed human heart tissue. I doubt that the heart tissue was ever a piece of bread. Someone swapped it.”
The Forensic Counter-Argument
The *Serratia* argument collapses under scrutiny. *Serratia marcescens* produces a surface-level red pigment on bread. It is a smear of bacteria. It does not produce organized, striated human myocardial tissue with identifiable actin, myosin, intercalated discs, and active immune cells.
On August 15, 1996, a discarded consecrated Host was placed in water according to standard protocol. Instead of dissolving, it developed reddish tissue and grew.
The Witness
Zugibe analyzed the tissue and identified it as human heart muscle — specifically from the myocardium of the left ventricle near the heart valves.
When Zugibe was finally told the sample came from a communion wafer that had been sitting in water for three years, he stated: “How and why a piece of a human heart is still alive, sitting in distilled water, is totally beyond my comprehension.”
okay, heres another one
And the evidence is where? Oh, right - we don’t get to see it.
a search engine is free, you can read em
Huh, apparently it doesn’t exist. Wild! Well the search engine proves it so that’s settled then.
https://nacn-usa.org/wp-content/uploads/Zugibe-scanned-reports-26-3-05-and-15-3-05-RON-ack.pdf
Yes I saw that, so the evidence is… where?
that is the evidence?
Those… letters. Are supposed to be evidence?
… No, sorry, do you have any evidence? Because that’s just “trust me bro” with a signature.
it isnt? Its a PhD Forensic Pathologist that didnt know what he was analyzing and he analyzed it and found cardiac tissue
Cardiac tissue forming on the hosts
For living white blood cells to be present in heart muscle from a Host that had been in water for three years defies the known laws of biology. The tissue showed no decomposition. The sample was submitted blind to a secular forensic scientist who had no theological investment in the result.
The Skeptic’s Rebuttal
Skeptics raise two objections. First, they invoke Serratia marcescens — a common red-pigmented bacterium that thrives in damp environments like a wafer in water, and has been blamed for nearly every “bleeding host” in history. Second, they attack the chain of custody: the sample sat in a jar in Argentina for three years before being sent to New York. A skeptic will say: “I don’t doubt Dr. Zugibe analyzed human heart tissue. I doubt that the heart tissue was ever a piece of bread. Someone swapped it.”
The Forensic Counter-Argument
The *Serratia* argument collapses under scrutiny. *Serratia marcescens* produces a surface-level red pigment on bread. It is a smear of bacteria. It does not produce organized, striated human myocardial tissue with identifiable actin, myosin, intercalated discs, and active immune cells.
https://nacn-usa.org/wp-content/uploads/Zugibe-scanned-reports-26-3-05-and-15-3-05-RON-ack.pdf
Neato, so the evidence? Going to provide any of that?
https://nacn-usa.org/wp-content/uploads/Zugibe-scanned-reports-26-3-05-and-15-3-05-RON-ack.pdf
Deja vu, so anyways - the evidence that’s conspicuously lacking - do you have any?
do you need an eye checkup?
Aww, baby not enjoying having to actually prove your claims? Poor thing. Anyways, the evidence?
I gave you proof you went “its not actually real proof” its not proof you want, if you are given proof you reject it