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Some phone cases have an attached pocket. Barely holds 2 cards, but it’s probably enough to slip in a student ID, travel pass and squeeze in an emergency note (money).
I find that very lope sided as I prefer to have a balance of stuff on both sides of my trouser pockets.
Well the fun bonus effect with those is that if you lose your phone, you’ve lost literally everything.
Finally someone mentions the importance of the wallet as a counterweight
I strayed into not taking a wallet out with me briefly, then I realised my life shouldn’t rely on Apple or Android (or my (lack of) ability to charge devices).
I wouldn’t mind that so much if those payment methods were more universally accepted, but they aren’t.
I use a wallet case so I can put cards in the back of my phone case instead of carrying a wallet.
My state doesn’t accept your license/id to be digital, id also have to walk a few miles before I found the nearest sidewalk, so the idea of going anywhere without a wallet it absurd.
Exactly. We should decrease our dependency on these companies, not increase it.
Or they’re German.
Yeah but inside it is $3.50
Nah. It’s just cards. I haven’t touched cash in a decade, but I do have way too many cards I need that can’t go in my phone.
Same here. I can go with only a phone but then I would miss:
- my ID card (mandatory here)
- my driver’s license card (mandatory when driving)
- my health insurance card
- my debit card (for when wireless payment isn’t available)
- my credit card
- my public transport card
Same here in Canada, except we dot not have ID card. My wallet is a small cards holder with like 6 or 7 cards and that’s it. Last time I used cash was maybe 10 years ago?
Sweden 😁 ?
Netherlands.
The last time I used cash, it was because I visited Germany.
>it was about that time that i noticed @OriginEnergySux@lemmy.world was about 500 feet tall and from the paleolithic era
Im not about to trust a single point of failure with everything. If my phone breaks I want alternative options
When I saw my phone could have a digital wallet I went all in and left my physical wallet at home
- The EFTPOS machines failed to process the payment so I had to leave my groceries behind and go without for a week (I only have one shot)
- Rewards cards all failed to scan or tap intermittently
- My phone ran out of battery sometimes
- Metro card doesn’t support phones
I went back to a physical wallet. It’s way more reliable, the tech wasn’t there yet 5 years ago and I CBF trying again
Eh, my wallet is a single point of failure. My phone is/can be backed up and recovered if lost, stolen, or broken.
Not to mention, if you lose your phone, you can remotely deactivate it, and it (can) take a pin or biometric to unlock the phone and access the data. Your lost/stolen wallet means anyone who has it has access to all the info in it, and you have to go through the hassle of deactivating cards and getting new cards.
In a better world, phone-based payment and IDs would be far superior. The problem is that the current companies and governments involved in setting that up are a bunch of invasive money-grubbing fuckwads.
I have 10€ in my phones battery compartment, because sometimes I leave my wallet at home, or forget it.
And visa has outages sometimes…
It became a habit for me whenever I am leaving home. Phone and hand kerchief in right pocket, wallet and keys in left pocket. If any item is missing I feel an absolute dread that can’t be ignored. Sometimes dap and iem in right and left pocket when it’s one of those trips.
I feel like a handkerchief indicates way older than millenial
Nah, late twenties. Parents taught me from childhood so that stuck around.
I have always found the idea of a hanky really gross. Do you actually blow your nose in it and then put it back in your pocket?
I do that with regular tissue
Yes, I fold it in a couple times so it stays on the inside
I use it to wipe other people’s noses, and then clone them into one mega-human when I get home.
You put your handkerchief in the same pocket as your phone?
First of all, how big are your pockets?
Second of all, doesn’t your phone collect oils from your hand? Do you really want that transferring to your handkerchief in your pocket?
Kerchiefs barely take any space, not sure what size you are thinking of. You change it everyday, just like clothing that picks up the oil.
I guess I was imagining something the size of a cloth dinner napkin, or one of those things bandits cover their faces with. Didn’t realize kerchiefs were smaller.
But my phone seems to attract oil and cling to it. I wipe it down with alcohol every few days but it doesn’t take long to rebuild. Even while keeping my hands clean. I wouldn’t want it in the same pocket as anything I wipe my face with
You phone probable had an oleophobic coating that you removed by using alcohol.
Spectacles, testicles (optional), wallet and watch. I know this is supposed to be how to cross yourself, but ever since my mother taught it to me I’ve used it as a way to make sure I was carrying everything I was likely to need.
Sometimes I’ll quote it to my wife and she’ll say “oh wait, I forgot my testicles!”
You have a phone battery compartment?
Its a fairphone, the battery is user serviceable, pretty much like older phones did it.
Which version? The 6 has screws.
If visa/mastercard has an outage the edge POS card terminal (nets etc) will cover your payment. This happens automatically after 3 seconds.
So unless there’s a major outage you don’t notice it
I’ve memorized my credit card details for a decade and a half for pretty much this reason. I don’t often forget my wallet, but it has happened. The few times it has, cashiers have been confused but generally managed to make it work when I’ve given them the numbers. (And to be clear, I’m grateful to them for accommodating the situation.)
I’ve never considered physically embodying cash within my phone. I’m super paranoid about leaving it behind ever since I broke my ankle and had to call my wife to save me, so I’m less likely to forget it than I am my wallet. Thanks for the idea!
I learned my lesson when my banking app had an error with location detection and wouldn’t let me pay. Luckily I was with someone I could borrow the money from. I now always carry a backup, lol.
Strangely enough thats exactly why I dont carry a wallet. I carry all the things you’d expect in your wallet, but spread out over all my pockets.
I am far too scatterbrained for that, I would spend half my day searching my pockets
I will lose a wallet and keys, but I won’t lose my phone. It’s that simple. I have a keypad lock on my house and a car which uses a phone key, so I only carry my phone and it’s the most liberating thing ever. A few years back I rented again for a year when I moved to a new city, and the mental stress of needing to carry a key around was so much higher than I remembered it being.
Depending on how much stuff that is, that’s actually insane.
Its all mixed in with like snack wrappers that I havent found a bin for, and a biro that might or might not explode at any moment, and a tangle of wires, and a few receipts, and some vape paraphernalia, and on and on.
Mug me if you like, we’ll be here for hours.
I bet standing behind you in line is a blast.
And you have time to set this up each morning before you leave?
Oh no, just wear the same trousers for a few days, same jacket for a week or two. Empty shit when its time to change and let it accumulate in the meantime.
I dont intend to let it accumulate. Every time I swear im going to keep them tidy this time, but ive been an adult for about 20 years now so I dont see it actually changing any time soon
Yeap. That’s what my Gen X cargo pants are for!
It’s OK, Gramps, let’s get you back to bed.
Kids these days with their newfangled ideas!
Get a card binder. Can even put in a note or two with rarely used cards.
But… How do they pay for the finest black market goods if they don’t have a wallet to carry cash around?
I’ve paid for drugs at festivals with card because the dealer had an iZettle
the future is here
so curious what the charge was listed as
AGoodTime
I knew a guy who always wrote “drugs” as the reason on Venmo, for things like paying back for dinner. Then he got contacted by them asking him to stop.
EventSuppliesLTD
Many of my dealers were accepting Cashapp and Venmo when I got sober a few years ago.
Us millennials must age gracefully if youth can’t recognize our age until they ask for our wallet
We’re well known to have aged particularly gracefully
Checking out at the liquor store
Cashier: “Can I see your ID?”
Me: “Awww. I hardly ever get ‘carded’ anymore. It feels kind of nice.”
Starts to pull out wallet
Cashier: “Oh, nevermind. You’re good.”
Me: “…Listen here you little shit. You started this whole thing. Now I’m going to show you my ID anyways and you’re going to act surprised like ‘OMG! I could have sworn he was 22! I didn’t even notice his bald spot.’”.
I’ve literally never owned a wallet and don’t know many people who do actually have one
Do you just have to remember to grab things whenever you go out? I can use my phone for most payments, but not everything. There’s several things I need regularly in my wallet: driver’s license, some cash, credit card, health insurance card, work ID (doors have scanners), punch cards for our local taco, boba, and ice cream place, grocery store/cvs discount card, and some other things I use less often. If I only had one of those phone cases, I could bring like 3 of the cards, but then my phone would be even bigger in my pocket.
The only card I have that I need to take with me is my work pass. Everything else is on my phone, debit and credit cards, train card, loyalty cards. I haven’t needed a physical card for anything other than work since COVID.
I can use my phone for literally all payments. Even kids selling lemonade on the side of the street.
We have digital driver’s licenses, health insurance is just tied to your person.
I bring my lanyard with access card to the office though
Well here in America we’re living in the past. But how do kids have credit card scanners!? I’ve been to Europe several times and the tap scanners are definitely everywhere though, very convenient.
They don’t. They use like a service provided by banks, think cashapp but everyone has it
Ah yeah they’d use Venmo here I suppose
Go out? That’s another millennial thing.
Seems so
I work retail and the number of phones/watches that have just failed to work means I’m never replacing my card. Sure, they could just be idiots who don’t know how to use it like the people who can’t use cards, but card just works.
Cards also need to take quite a bit of damage before they stop working too.
I once accidentally ran over my credit card with my car after a mishap at a parking garage pay station. Still works fine, though it does have some road rash. Lets see an iPhone do that!
Or if you live in the middle of nowhere like I do, stores just don’t turn that feature on.
That’s basically why I carry a wallet – as backup. I got used to leaving my wallet at home unless I was driving and I needed my license. But, then one time I spent 45 minutes shopping tried to pay, and for some unknown reason I couldn’t pay with my phone. Now, if the phone doesn’t work I have the NFC card in the wallet. If the NFC doesn’t work on the card, it also has a chip so I can insert it. If, for some reason, that fails too, I have enough cash for at least the main things I want to buy.
If I’m going out and not planning on doing a major shop, and don’t need to drive, the wallet stays home. If something comes up the phone will probably work, but it’s not worth the extra space to carry the wallet just in case.
There are cash only fairs and stuff but then you just take cash in your pocket or bra
Most places will tell you to fuck off if you start handing them cash from your bra, no one wants your boob sweat.
I had an obese customer pay me from her fat tiddy purse and do you know what I did?
I took the goddamned sweaty bills, thanked her, and used the cash to buy edibles at the dispensary later that week.
Dunno what palace you live in but $ > boob sweat
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Whoof. Tough crowd.
I was hoping to at least get a sensible chuckle from “fat tiddy purse”, but I guess they can’t all be winners
I’ve worked retail, I’ve had people try that shit. We had a sign for a reason, that shits nasty.
Oh yeah for sure. If I was an employee? Nah, hard pass on that ol tiddy sweat. I get it.
Since I’m
unemployedan “entrepreneur” I’ll take what I can get lol
Damn, where I’m from boob sweat is more highly valued than money
I think it depends on the boob, and the boob carrier.
Do kids in the US not have wallets? I don’t think I know anyone who doesn’t have one (in Germany)
Germany is the land of cash. All of Europe has adopted digital payment almost everywhere.
Germany has many businesses where cash only is normal.
Sounds smart
Well avoiding taxes is much easier with cash.
Though I don’t think this is the main reason.
Probably our shitty phone network. Those digital card readers need a good connection to work and in Germany we have many areas where they just don’t work. So cash only.
Yeah, because paying by card isn’t an option everywhere in Germany. The only time I carry cash is when I visit Germany.
In Norway accepting tapping became mandatory from 21, so no one here carries one. The older generations that haven’t activated Vipps carries a card or two on their phone, but seeing someone under 70 carrying a wallet is rare.
Yes but that’s because you live in Norway, a horrible place where all the men look like walruses and the women smell of fish.
You take that back! Norway is the land of mead and honeys and where I want to escape to if I can get out of this godforsaken hellhole pretending to be a democracy. Don’t take away my only hope of a life away from the US. I want to live between a mountain and the sea, only be able to buy alcohol 10:00-18:00 M-F, and go to the municipal pool and sit in a “hot tub” that is cooler than bath water listening to a German complain that “no one uses cash around here”!
*Cries in for-profit healthcare and regulatory capture*
Lol what
Haaland is the exception, not the rule.
They might not use a traditional folding one a lot of the time. They have those intrusion protected card holder things that are essentially the “modern wallet” that better protect the physical cards from damage, and also prevents someone using the NFC stuff to steal your money without even having to dip your pocket.
I thought it was crossbody bags and side partings that gave us away?
I still have a wallet in there to keep my IDs and important cards
Oh crap, has the side part came back too? I used to hate my mom brushing my hair like that when it looked too messy for her… That being said I do miss my mom and would probably wear my hair like that if it would bring her back.
I don’t think it ever left… Its not popular with Gen Z that’s for sure but I love my side parting! Give it a go for her.
Paying with cash is the most private method. I hope it stays.
You already can’t in so many places. I thought it was required to accept cash, but apparently that’s only for paying the government.
You mean Friends lied to me!?
Cash is required to be accepted to clear a debt.
Cash is not required to be accepted to make a purchase.
Still infuriating. I have actual money but can’t use it? Ugh.
That’s how I understand it. Cash is legal tender and has to be accepted to clear debts, so restaurants where you pay after you eat might not be able to refuse cash (though I don’t think there’s a requirement to provide change), though they can refuse all future business with you.
Some ATMs track the serial numbers of the bills you get. Even then, though, it’s more private than a card. Unless they have video of you shoving the bills into a machine for payment, say at Walmart self-checkout, they really don’t know how many hands the bills passed through before they passed through a reader again. Also, good if you can get a store to break the large bills for you. Then, they only know that you paid for a pack of gum with a 100-dollar bill.
I’m in my mid 30s and I haven’t carried a wallet in about 6 years. I switched to a phone case with a slot for IDs. Then 3 years ago I dropped that and only carry my phones. My ID stays in my tool bag since it goes with me everywhere I need it. However I don’t even bother carrying it when I’m out and not driving. I just with my dam province would implement a proper digital ID.
Yeah, humans still occasionally acquire important small pieces of paper or plastic that are convenient to stow in some type of small container that can be keep on the person, what a shock.
