• minorkeys@sh.itjust.works
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    1 month ago

    Short of nukes, they’re not competent enough to do so and the American economy and the people are not in a position to support a major ground offensive. Nukes probably wouldn’t even work to destroy the political apparatus so it would just be mass murder.

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        1 month ago

        No fucking clue. Depends how well they’ve purged the military leadership and replaced them with yes men and psychopaths. I would imagine the leadership of the last several decades would be very strongly opposed, ultimately I don’t know if they’d refuse an order form the executive. You’d think nukes would require congressional approval except during a Congress declared war, but I don’t think so.

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          1 month ago

          If they don’t everyone dies so they’re likely to be be pretty motivated to say no. Given that the Soviet military back in the cold war refused to launch nukes I’m reasonably confident the human instinct for survival will override any theoretical respect they have for the executive.

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    1 month ago

    This isnt even saber rattling anymore. Its just an old man threatening the kids to get off his lawn, except its not his lawn, its a lawn on TV, and they aren’t even kids, they’re deer.

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    1 month ago

    This is 3rd or 4th time of making the threat. Hegseth is also making mission accomplished speeches, and saying SoH should be Europe’s problem. Latter is not serious because its not his job to ask for help, but it would be way less serious if nukes were flying by the time Europe got there. I think this is all more of an end of war (withdrawal) preparation, than the 4th time being the one where the most psycho part of the brain wins.

      • lemmy_outta_here@lemmy.world
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        1 month ago

        Trump backed down on Greenland when Europe said “nuh-uh”. He will go slaughter some starving cubans instead.

        What a lionheart trump is.

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          My only problem with “backed down” is that he says a lot all the time, but what he does or not does is completely different. He hasn’t actually taken any action against Greenland, just talked about it. (That company that was going to drill is, as far as I can tell, not related to the Trumps in any meaningful way)

          So not that I disagree with you per se, but… Iran he has actually attacked, although not invaded (ground troops).

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        1 month ago

        I’m picturing a spinner with all the countries he likes to threaten. He spins the arrow and decides which one to threaten next

  • III@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    Oh, so upcoming news on one of the other despicable things he is doing to harm people and he needs a distraction.

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      1 month ago

      nah, you’ll see a couple protestors on your feed holding signs. feel glad that “at least somebody is doing something” and then continue to go into work, watch prime, netflix, game, etc. buy groceries. eat snacks. sleep in when you can. maybe write a few angry comments and share a few posts. but you value your life, and the lives of your friends and family.

      like everyone else. just waiting for “jesus to come back”.

      and thats basically it.

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      1 month ago

      Riot now, what the fuck is the goddamn holdup!?

      You won’t riot, you’ll just move the goalposts to “if he invades Canada we’ll riot” or “if he puts minorities in camps we’ll riot” or “if he starts arresting political opponents we’ll riot” and then you still won’t when he does those things

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      1 month ago

      no we won’t. we’re too tired and scared of losing healthcare when we get fired for rioting.

      what we will do is pray Iran uses one back. On mainland US soil. Heck, uses 50 of them back. We deserve, 100%, to get our teeth kicked in.

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    What would anyone do if US Nukes Iran. No one will even bat an eye, sanctions would be far out of realm. West wouldn’t even lose sleep over it. What more brown people dead would make any difference.

    Global south and Middle East better find better partners.

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    But wait I thought they were already totally destroyed and decimated and annihilated and embarrassed and begging for a deal. President Warloser and the Secretary of War (crimes) couldn’t be lying to me and the state of the “Trump Strait” that he definitely controls could he?

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    I am never going to forget that the US political system failed to employ its supposed superior checks-and-balances against a mad president brandishing nuclear weapons.

    Even if you guys elect AOC as your next president, you’re not coming back from this, nobody should ever trust you again, unless you do some big constitutional reforms. The ancient antidemocratic Constitution that you revere is obsolete and antiquated and your quasi-religious devotion to it trash and downright dangerous. Just like Nazi Germany had to denazify, you fuckfaces need to de-american-exceptionalism-ify.

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      The US should never have been trusted, and no superficial “reforms” the dems push should change that.

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      I am never going to forget that the US political system failed to employ its supposed superior checks-and-balances against a mad president brandishing nuclear weapons.

      Are you talking about Nixon, Ford, Reagan, Bush 1, Clinton, Bush 2, Obama, Trump 1, Biden, or Trump 2?

      (Carter gets a pass I think, don’t tell me if he did anything murderous like the others, allow me one good one thank you)

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        As far as I know (maybe I’m wrong), even if each of these fucks was a war crimina in his own right, they didn’t go around threatening to use a nuclear first strike to annihilate a civilization. There is something particularly evil about the brandishing of unclear weapons.

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      Not only did our leadership handcraft the bullet they shot themselves with, they poured the gasoline in the barn and set if off at the same time.

      USA is fucked for a long time. We’ve burned every bridge imaginable for a few dollars. I hate it here.

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    It’s a race! Iran has been 2 weeks away from a nuclear weapon since 1978. Trump has been 2 weeks away from annihilating iran for 6 months.

    Trump propagandists could teach Zeno a thing or two about finish lines.