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Donald Trump is accused of raping a former Miss Switzerland in a report probing the president’s relationship with Jeffrey Epstein released by House of Representatives Democrats this week.
Beatrice Keul, a retired model and beauty pageant contestant, told the House Judiciary Committee about an incident alleged to have taken place at New York’s Plaza Hotel in 1993. The report, released a week ahead of the midterm elections, also summarizes previously reported allegations from four other women against Trump.
The White House has strongly denied all of the reports’ claims, accusing “crazed” Democrats of “a desperate attempt to distract Americans” and insisting that the president has been “fully exonerated of anything related to Epstein.”
Keul previously claimed in October 2024 that Trump had sexually assaulted her at a beauty pageant staged at the Plaza Hotel, which Trump then owned.
“The president may have raped someone, but we need to double down on the made up rape threat that transgender people pose to women!”
-Republicans, demonstrably.
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Ok, now the elected officials will do something about it? Right? Right?
They did… They released a memo. What, is that not GOOD ENOUGH??
What do you want them to do? The DOJ works for the pedophiles.
We decided that Democrats don’t deserve votes and should be the minority party. They have no power to do anything but write memos. Why are we suddenly pissed they’re not doing more after we stopped then from being able to do more?
What did they do about trump and the Epstein files before they lost all seats of power?
Hmmmm
Checks notes, ahh, I see, wrote memos.
Yes, and also prosecuted the surviving accomplice.
Now I understand that you’d prefer Democrats to be just as openly corrupt and criminal as Republicans, but unfortunately for you the Democrats still do follow laws, even when those laws mean that the Epstein files remain sealed by court order.
Of course, that court order was lifted in 2025 and a law was passed specifying their release. Republicans, being much more willing to openly break the law, chose to not release them.
The only woman? Yeah, she was always going to be the scapegoat. A woman in a crime ring or a poc in a white man’s ring, is a pressure release valve.
There are dozens and dozens of people they could have also been prosecuting. If not hundreds. But all they needed for their little legitimacy play is one. single. solitary. woman. For decades and decades and thousands of rapes and billions in money laundering and god knows what else.
Follow the law? I guess the law doesn’t say anything about being one of the actual hundreds of rapists or facilitating money laundering or anything. Jfc you’re drunk on their bullshit.
Many people have been prosecuted, not just maxwell.
Of course none of those prosecutions have been advertised on Fox News, so I’m guessing you haven’t heard of them. And, of course, since enough people bought into your bOtH sIdEs bullshit, most of those prosecutions have been quietly pardoned or dropped by Republicans.
Congratulations! If I genuinely thought you gave a fuck about the pedophilia, I’d say you played yourself. But I’m guessing you don’t really give a fuck about that, and just want to blame Democrats and defend trump.
Give me an alternative then.
Democrats controlled the DoJ when Biden was in office for four years.
Did they do anything? No. They insisted that the investigation of a man dead for 10 years was ongoing.
Translation: Fuck you voters, we love Epstein, too
The Biden administration slow-rolled the prosecution of Trump because they wanted to avoid any semblance of it being a political prosecution. That was a mistake, because there was no way for them to avoid the accusation of politicization, and failing to act quickly allowed Trump to retake the White House and overtly politicize the justice department.
Though it pains me, and this opinion will undoubtedly be unpopular, I disagree that it was a mistake for Biden to avoid making Trump’s prosecution a priority.
Obviously in hindsight it was a tactical error to allow American voters to re-take the wheel, but in principle the decision to not expedite a trial in order to conclude before the election expressed faith in the public to not screw up.
In technical terms he was acting as a jus post bellum democratic leader, not a responsible-government technocrat, pragmatic tactician, or revolutionary.
So it’s easy to say in hindsight “it’s a pity that he did not stab that vile creature when he had a chance!” But trust in others you claim to represent is never a mistake, even when that trust turns out to be misplaced.
Truth. When you’re the only ones playing by the supposed rules of decorum, are there really any rules of decorum?
The DOJ was not under political control until Trump decided it should be. Again, I get that Republican brainrot has convinced you that open corruption is normal and good, but Democrats generally follow the laws.
Absolutely on brand for Trump.
Its just nuts that the WH can just issue a 3 sentence press release and the story barely rates a mention.
Yea, we forget he is not just a pedo, he is an incestuous pedo
I’d bet some damn good money that that fat orange barrel of syphilis raped his daughter (on many occasions).
There’s a video out there… Can’t remember the show, but they go into her childhood bedroom and she looks visibly shook.
Complete attitude change after memories come back.
Had not seen that, thanks for sharing. The complete tonal and attitude shift is pretty chilling.
It’s a little out of context, but given the mound of rape and child sexual misconduct against orange menace, it’s very telling.
It’s a bad HBO “documentary” from 2003 called Born Rich.
It’s actually a pretty good doc, IMHO.
Also, Ivanka admits to something donnie probably would not have admitted - that donnie was deeply in debt at one point. She says that he points to a homeless person and says they have more money than he does.
To each their opinion, of course.
Born Rich, which originally aired on HBO, is not a good movie. The camera angles are weird, the lighting inconsistent, and the theme never moves beyond “Having money sure is complicated.”
Love the whataboutism in this answer. Doesn’t matter the opinion.
Her reaction alone is impossible to dismiss. She’s obviously traumatized about something here and gets very emotional. If you can’t connect to it I guess you’re a very troubled person. But its just a guess.
I completely agree that the film shows her traumatized in that room, probably related to the fact that her father, the president of the United States, is a child rapist. That has fuck all to do with whether it’s a good film or not, which is what we were discussing lmao
Back all the way the fuck off, homie
Can we start narrowing it down to people whom Trump hasn’t molested? Is that a shorter list yet?
“Fully exonorated”? By whom? When? Where?
BTW, you cannot exonorate people like Trump, who never had any honor to start with.
By FBI agents redacting his name from Epstein files. What a time to be an FBI agent, spending all your time trying to cover up for daddy Donald Trump. I am sure they feel really proud of the work they do.
I mean, this is a new low for the FBI but it’s not that much lower than their last low.
fair enough…
By trump. In his muddy, nasty little mind.
I have the same question. They haven’t even released all the files, let alone investigated and prosecuted anyone. They’ll just lie to your face and the press never ask questions.
an incident alleged to have taken place at New York’s Plaza Hotel in 1993
If it’s not a plus-sized intern, nobody cares.
Children were abused,
The perps get away with it,
Who has the power?
Ah, the “both sides are evil” shills have shown up I see.
Shills?
Epstein’s Lolita Express was full of bOtH SiDeS. You’ll never stop hearing that, because it will always be true. Face the facts.
Fine, let’s assume you are correct (and they are equal in number). Who is covering it up right now?
I mean, the dude in charge. There’s no reason to expect the people not in charge to do anything different once they’re in charge, is the point. If you want that not to be the case, you’ll have to do something other than hope.
Donald Trumps personal lawyer is in charge now. Don’t you pay attention?
But genocide!
Because they are?
“accused” Are we really still giving that sicko the benefit of the doubt?
All sides should lob decades old sexual allegations at eachother before every election. The beauty is finding someone to make an accusation is easy, the claims are unfalsifiable and there is no penalty or risk in making the accusation. Democratizatiin of zero cost smearing for all!
Both sides with rape huh? Bold strategy Cotton.
The dems don’t care. They’re just doing this so they get elected. Then if/when they’re elected, it’ll get buried again.
possibly but better not to have a rapist as President though
“The opposing candidate is not perfect/only slightly better, so we may as well wallow in shit up to our noses instead of it being only up to our chest”
No one suggested not voting for them.
In my experience a very large amount of lemmy users support an idea that you should not vote for the democrats because afterwards complatency is too easy while more of Trump may unlock a civil war revolution.
I highly disagree with it and i dont think it will work out that way. I rather fight facist-lite then cant-wait-for-an-excuse-to-bomb-“woke”-cities-facism but i do understand the logic those “users” apply.
The real question is, are those users actually real people voicing their personal opinions or are they trolls/bots. Its not a good sign how increasingly vocal they are right in front of a US election and suddenly silent afterwards. Complacent much?
My suggestion is to vote lesser evil and then the moment they win a No-kings protest, continueing to grill the entire office to make it clear their polical win comes with 0 support from the people.
I’ve literally never seen anyone on the threadiverse suggest that you should not vote for Democrats.
Maybe you are just lucky but most likely its my own fault for enganging to much with these people. They are rarely explicit about it in the first comment.
Well personally I find it disgusting to suggest that we shouldn’t hold “our team” accountable simply because the other team is worse.
I’ve literally never seen anyone on the threadiverse suggest that we shouldn’t hold them accountable, or that they are “our team” for that matter.
As i said before. My suggestions is to make it clear that a vote =\= support by large anti fascist protestation the second they get elected.
Wait here a second.
There we are, found it.
There are LITERAL accelerationists here that will tell you that voting is bad, because the system needs to get worse, so it can finally collapse. And they are not a small minority, though a minority they remain. They will gladly sacrifice anyone who dies to a fascist regime on their way to accelerate the collapse.
I think you’re mistaken. That post says “vote your ass off”.
I linked to a specific comment by kreskin, read that.
Unless you read this thread (or 10,000 others on Lemmy) where that sentiment is not unpopular
I think people are just sick of Coting for the same thing just different shades. I mean have the demoxrates stood up to trump no they’ve rolled over many times the past two years. I do not expect them to do any better I’d they win the senate. I hope I’m wrong but we well see.
There’s a concerted effort on lemmy to discourage votes for democrats. I think it’s obvious why that is.
Next time if you want to be taken seriously, acknowledge this well known fact, also take a moment to proofread…
Sure, could be that they do the right thing for the wrong reasons. But it’s still the right thing.
So much this. I hate when people are like “they don’t really believe that” in response to some public statement. The public statement itself is important! Half a politician’s job is public speaking. What they say in public matters just as much as what they do in private, and immediately attacking someone for doing the unobjectionably right thing is self defeating.
That’s probably what they hope to do, but as Trump and co. have shown, you can’t quite put that genie back in the bottle that easily. They’ll definitely be looking for an opportunity to sweep it under the rug though.
These kind of defeatist comments smell like all those Harris will start WW3 astro turf comments from the last election cycle.
If they try to bury it they’re going to meet the same fate. And Dem voters will be far less forgiving.
"Democrats aren’t doing anything!
Democrats do something.
“They don’t mean it though!”
Maybe but do you think a rapist is a good leader?
So far as I can tell, the only meaningful push to hold any Epstein pedophile accountable has come from the Dems, with the one Republican who pushed for it being ousted by the GOP and Israel.
I wouldn’t immediately jump to doomerism conclusions when so far all the evidence is pointing you in the other direction. Just get off your ass and go vote for the Dems.
Thank you for the tag request.
The White House has strongly denied all of the reports’ claims, accusing “crazed” Democrats of “a desperate attempt to distract Americans” and insisting that the president has been “fully exonerated of anything related to Epstein.”
Funny, the White House started a whole ass war to distract from the Epstein files. Projection at it’s finest.
In Wag the Dog they only pretended to start a war.
And before the 2016 election he fired off probes to HILARY’S EMAILS which was a literal nothing-burger…
…then HUNTER’S LAPTOP which was an absolute fabrication.
But documented undeniable proof that someone who has been found guilty of rape, has documented history of rape and being a pedo, and openly bragged about sexually assaulted women…yeah that’s just a baseless witch hunt
But wait – Hillary had shared recipes for prosciutto. Prosciutto!!!
It’s weird that when I open the news tab for U.S. in Google, I see the “national conversation” (pearl clutching from reactionary centrists) is all about the Alaska race and how underhanded those Democrats are…
Instead of talking about how donnie is so obviously a rapist and talking about the Republicans that are still propping him up despite the fact that the rape likely extends to donnie fucking kids.
