• village604@adultswim.fan
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    4 months ago

    If they released the full, unredacted files they’d be distributing CSAM and victim names, though. Some redacting is necessary.

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      4 months ago

      I’d agree but they already did that. They seemed to have spent far more care and attention protecting the rapists than the rapees.

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          Nobody is asking them to not protect the victims, people are demanding the names and identities of the people that were corresponding with Epstein. All of them. You’re being hyperbolic and reactionary.

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      While the victims need to be protected, that’s not what Trump and the DOJ did. Rather than out the perpetrators and protect the victims, they outed the victims and are protecting the perpetrators. All because the people protecting the perpetrators, the perpetrators, and the officials in charge of this are all the same people. So yeah they already crossed that bridge backwards without shoes.

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        4 months ago

        So the solution to that is to release all of the CSAM?

        Redaction needs to happen, but it needs to be done by an independent organization.

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    A significant chunk of American pop culture of the past decades is based on the premise that The Government is Hiding Something.

    Trump’s going to throw a big wrench in that by releasing fucking everything. Except a few things. A few great secrets.

    I swear American pop culture in the coming century or so is just going to be The Government is Hiding The Epstein Files, over and over and over.

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      Within the next few years America is going to start importing most of its pop culture. The American media industry is dying. Good riddance.

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      Well who can forget ‘’ Roswell Case Closed’’ https://media.defense.gov/2010/Oct/27/2001330219/-1/-1/0/AFD-101027-030.pdf If this is the level of truth we are going to get…who can blame us for remaining skeptical of the Government…

      Chronological Anachronism: The report attributes “alien bodies” to anthropomorphic dummies used in Project High Dive, which did not begin until 1953. Skeptics argue it is a fallacy to use events from the mid-1950s to explain a widely reported incident that occurred in July 1947.

      The “Memory Consolidation” Fallacy: The USAF proposed that witnesses merged memories of different events (Project Mogul in 1947, dummy drops in the 1950s, and a 1956 KC-97 crash) into a single 1947 narrative. Critics argue this dismisses firsthand testimony by assuming a collective, decades-long memory failure among numerous unrelated witnesses.

      False Equivalence of Physical Descriptions: The report suggests that “alien” features, such as bulbous heads, were actually injured airmen like Capt. Dan D. Fulgham, who suffered severe swelling after a 1959 balloon accident. Critics point out that describing a human officer as an “alien” is a logical stretch, especially when the timing is over a decade off.

      The “Moving Goalposts” Argument: Some researchers claim the USAF has changed its official explanation four times (crashed disc, weather balloon, Project Mogul, and finally dummies), which they view as a pattern of circular reasoning or shifting narratives to maintain a cover-up. Selective Evidence: The report identifies “hieroglyphics” on the debris as poorly stenciled labels or flowered tape from the Project Mogul balloon. Critics argue this selectively ignores witness descriptions of indestructible, metallic debris that could not be cut or burned.

    • P1k1e@lemmy.world
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      All the future super spy movies will be about government pedo rings… ugh get ready to have nonstop PTSD

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    I mean his base is dumb enough to fall for this trick, so it will work perfect.

    I really hate how the dept of education has been destroyed over the decades and now over 70% of the country is dumb as bricks.

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    As was said before, this is why the aliens roll up their windows and drive faster when they pass our planet.

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      Honestly, if there were alien craft zipping around, I can imagine why no government would want to disclose them. It would basically be an announcement of, “these damn craft are flying around the atmosphere and the space around Earth. They’re utterly beyond anything we’re capable of. We’re not sure if they’re aliens, time travelers, beings from another dimension, literal angels or demons, or something even stranger. But we are utterly at their mercy. They’re spying on us constantly, for purposes unknown. Oh, and occasionally they’ll just abduct people and carry them off for God-knows-what reason. I’m sorry, but there is literally nothing we or any human being can do about this. They’re basically gods to us, and we know next to nothing about them, where they come from, or why they’re here.”

      What leader would ever want to give that speech? I don’t consider it likely we are being visited by non-human intelligences. But if we were, it wouldn’t be anything like Roswell and Area 51. We wouldn’t have a base full of downed or crashed alien craft. They simply wouldn’t crash, and we would have no ability to shoot them down. A real announcement of alien visitors wouldn’t be the reveal of some vast secret government project, a revealing of secret strength. It would be us saying, “we’ve been working on this problem for nearly a century, and we’ve learned nothing. All we know is that they’re there, and we can’t do a damn thing about it.” It would a confession of weakness and utter helplessness, a government openly admitting it’s completely powerless to protect its people from an unknown outside threat. Can you imagine a president telling the public, “yeah, you might get abducted by aliens. Sorry, that just happens sometimes. There’s nothing we can do about it.”

      It would represent a complete shattering of our species’ sense of value and security. And voters tend not to like politicians who tell them the unvarnished truth.

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        They simply wouldn’t crash

        Why would that be assumed? Yes flying across space is a level of technology we can’t comprehend, but unless these beings have truly become gods, technology breaks. Something can always go wrong.

      • we are utterly at their mercy. They’re spying on us constantly, for purposes unknown. Oh, and occasionally they’ll just abduct people and carry them off for God-knows-what reason.

        Sounds like the sort of thing this administration would be proud of. It’s what their supporters voted for!

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      He did do this during the first term. There wasn’t anything interesting, but it did distract the conspiracy folks.

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        The pullout was weird at the time. Handful of censored videos, talk of more then nothing. A couple of senators or house members suddenly became disinterested for no reason in particular and it died.

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    This looks like a yakuza game at this point, with these cartoon evil pedo politicians pulling the alien defense.

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    I was sure you meant “alien” as in “foreigner” but no, you actually mean extra-terrestrial. 👽

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    Didn’t they already try to do this before with the alien bullshit?

    Between him and Obama pushing aliens it seems like America is just psyop at this point.

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      Obama isn’t pushing aliens. He was asked a question and felt he needed to clarify his answer because people were not understanding his answer

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        I watchedthe interview before it blew up. right after the alien thing he said that tupac was still alive…. in his playlist.

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      4 months ago

      This time he has “proof” that thousands of Martians illegally voted in 2020.

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      Back around… 2020 or so we had a release of files that were basically ‘There are some weird flying things and we have no clue what they were’. After that we had that some coverage a few years back confirming that all of that led to ‘No definite evidence of aliens’ but I feel like I remember just last year we had a congressional hearing with some guy who worked for the DoD saying Aliens did exist and we had captured some of those UAPs. However, then again… I do think said guy who was most vocal on those hearings had a book he was trying real hard to sell.

      Who wants to take the bet that Trump is going to take a financial interest in some guy selling books on this and prop him up as ‘the’ expert.

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        Most old UFO sightings were in areas that are now known to be places where drone technology was being developed and tested.

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          Yeah, that makes sense. No way we’d have drones without alien tech.

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          I feel like that’s something a lot of people are just not thinking about for some reason

          There’s a simple explanation for the weird videos, and why the government didn’t want to talk about them. And it’s just it being experimental military technology

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        some guy who worked for the DoD

        David Grusch I think his name is, from memory.

        a book he was trying to sell

        That’s probably Ross Coulthard (whose book isn’t bad btw) who’d just released his book and was promoting Grusch’s story.

        That sound familiar to you?

    • Sideshow_B00b@lemmy.zip
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      The world: Release the damn Epstein files already!

      Trump: Look at the keys, look at them. Thery’re the best keys, terrific keys. These keys came up to me, tears in their eyes they said ”Sir…” [trails off, makes be-boop-ahh sounds and sharts audibly while smoke from the burnong Epstein files fills the room]