They went from standing with Anthropic to throwing them under the bus real fast
$$$
Which they badly need, they are in an incredibly risky position right now. It’s very disappointing, this deal might save them from collapse for quite a while.
The only disappointment, is that Altmans head is still attached to his shoulders.
Altman is a symptom, not the problem. The problem is capitalism.
Yeah but its interesting that all of these big tech guys are so creepy. Altman, Musk, Zuckerberg… Do they grow them in labs?
Capitalism rewards sociopathy to a great degree. The less you care about fellow humans, the more you are willing to exploit them.
That’s very true; I still would love to see him guillotined.
No, no, even if we get that wish I dont want the US state propping up AI longer
About half a day.
They probably have been working on a potential agreement with openai for a while now. They just hastily finished it in response to anthropic. But I don’t know if they will keep the red lines anthropic has demanded in place
They won’t.
The red line is the amount of cash they are ready to compromise for.
It was always about the money.
Windows Central shouldn’t be parroting the U.S. government in mislabeling the Department of Defense.
Windows Central should be advocating for return of Windows Phone.
It’s like it joined a cult and got a new name.
I mean it’s at least accurate now, there is no defense when you are starting war with everyone
But MAGA only voted for the department of pedophiles. This is an outrage.
Especially since the Trump admin already made it clear that they don’t respect preferred pronouns. Why should we use the DoD’s preferred pronouns of Department of War instead of the Department of Defense name it legally has? DoW is just DoD’s preferred pronoun.
They aren’t defending shit
Yeah, there are all sorts of ways in which standing up to the administration is hard, but calling something by its actual name should be a relatively easy thing to do!
I think you’re in denial. If they had changed the name of Homeland Security into the dep of National Security for example, you probably wouldn’t say that media outlets is parroting the us government.
Because it’s still officially called the Department of Defense; only Congress can rename it.
More broadly, it illustrates the administration’s use of illegal boat strikes and regime change as foreign policy tools.
I would.
Ha! I fucking called that after they claimed they also were taking a hard line. Complete bullshit.
Amazon, gemini, perplexity are also in the us goverment baby bottle nipples.
The “Cancel ChatGPT movement” doesn’t appear to be mentioned in the article, but other outlets say hashtags like #CancelChatGPT are trending on X.
Now imagine my shock when I had done the swap from ChatGPT to Claude the day before the news about Anthropic’s (now backpedalled) deal. Anyway, I deleted ChatGPT and Gemini accounts and degoogled my life while I was at it.
Honestly - it’s too fucking late. Anyone who had an account with OpenAI and used that garbage is already an abbetor and/or accomplice to anything that is done by Hegseth and his henchmen.
Cancelling now is still better late than never.
Canceling now only means you are not continuing to contribute to the war atrocities that the technology is going to be used for. If you had an account and used it, you have already contributed.
Thanks for doing this - it isn’t a proper leftist get-together without some assclown imposing impossible purity tests.
you are no true Irishman!
I have an IRA account, does that make me kinda Irish?
Does it have 3$ in it and is there a Guinness in yer hand? Then welcome to the Irish me boy
Flogging Molly has been fun to be reminded to listen to. Brought me back to Streetlight Manifesto that i forgot was great, also do you mind if i borrow one of those dollar bills while i go to take a leak real quick?
Well no Irishman is a Scotsman so that tracks
they are essential the same j/k
Impossible purity test? That’s utter bull crap. There have been many warnings about the negative uses of AI for years now, for example: https://aiforgood.itu.int/event/addressing-the-dark-sides-of-ai/
To expect people to be able to understand that this use could be expanded to committing state sponsored atrocities is not a stretch.
Well, judge not lest you too be judged…
There is no such thing as “ethical” AI coming from Big Tech. Google, Microsoft, Anthropic, Amazon, all of them built their machines without consent, all their machines have been subsidized with our taxes and resources, and Anthropic is a pro-Trump pro-foreign-dictator company that crossed every single red line until the very last one.
Anthropic was pro mass surveillance of foreigners.
It was okay with helping Trump plan criminal invasions.
It just doesn’t want to be held responsible for pushing the “go” button, but we know their software was one suggestion away from doing it anyway.
That’s no judgment on me. I don’t use AI. I tried it one night 3-4 years ago, realized that it wasn’t ready for widespread adoption, and haven’t touched it since.
This person uses the internet, which for *years *has had TONs of negative uses.
How do you think Epstein emailed his buddies? The internet.
You can’t trust people that use evil technologies like user Unattributed. Thanks for the incredibly sound and intelligent logical framework!
Yes, there are applications that can be used for good or evil. But being super reductive and claiming the whole internet has tons of negative uses is ridiculous. The internet itself is a series of protocols running on communications hardware.
It is up to the users of the applications to judge whether the application is inherently positive or negative, or whether the use of the technology is being handled in a positive and/or ethical manner. And more so, it’s up to the user to judge wether the technology aligns with their personal values.
Social networks: Xitter, Farcebook, Instawhore, TikTok, Reddit… all of them have proven they are platforms of manipulation, so I walked away. In fact, most of them I walked away from before it was shown how just how bad they were.
Cryptocurrencies: had the opportunity to be good, but grifters set in on them, so I never got involved.
NFTs: the next generation of CryptoGrifters, stayed away.
AI: has never been ready to be a public application / platform. That has been apparent for the last 3-5 years. If you didn’t read and pay attention to the signs and still signed up for an account despite all the warnings being out there, then yes, you have aided and abetted in the use of the technology in manners that are going to have a severely negative impact on the world.
Here’s the thing: we have a long, long history with technology. We know that it can be used for both good and bad. However, we also should have evolved in our thinking over the past 6-7 decades in terms of how technologies are being applied.
Nuclear reactors: Mostly good with negative side effects. Judgment on this needed longer terms study to understand it’s implication. Nuclear bombs? Clearly evil.
Cassette recorders, VCRs, CD Recorders: predominantly good, but open to bad uses (i.e., piracy). The balance: mostly good, minimal negative effects
AI? Potentially good, but immediately threw up huge red flags in terms of negative uses (deep fakes, revenge porn, etc.). Even AI researchers have expressed concerns over the direction of the research.
The thing is, technology is something that we’ve lived with since the industrial revolution. Every single technological invention since that time has had major implications for it’s impact on society. We can choose, on an individual basis, how that impact is shaped. If you chose to use a technology, then you are better that it’s uses will align with your values. Don’t cry when it’s used in ways that don’t align with your values, or is used against you.
You are fucking insane. By your logic any customer of a company that might one day build a weapon is complicit. That is asinine.
With their last link, they’re complicit
That’s not the argument at all. The argument is that there have been warning signs, big flashing warning signs, about the dangers of using AI for years now. Most technology, in general doesn’t come with anywhere near as many warnings.
And, it’s been a known fact that people using AI are also training in the AI. That’s an active choice that people that signed up for accounts are making.
So yes, users of this technology are taking an active role in the training of the technology, that makes them complicit.
That is a far cry from data brokers going out and harvesting public records, or companies tracking your spending habits and feeding that into a database. If those companies then turned around and made a weapon, no I wouldn’t point the finger at people whose information got scraped. OTOH - if you continued to use a platform that you know is using you to gather information (aka, Facebook, Reddit, Twitter, etc.) and let them do it, then yeah…you have some level of complicity.
Yeah, we live and learn. We don’t expect perfection, we expect self improvement. Its important not to excuse bad decisions/behavior. Be more skeptical of new technology in the future and pay attention to who’s creating/selling it.
And this is why anybody who made a mistake in the past should be shunned forever, regardless of their current views and actions. They may as well just jump off a bridge and save us the trouble of setting up a firing squad.
Making a mistake is one thing. Ignoring the BIG FLASHING WARNING SIGNS is another. There have been massive warning signs around AI for several years. If you looked at the warning signs and proceeded anyway, you deserve what you get.
They never said they should be shunned, they didnt even list a social consequence. The fact remains that if you used OpenAI in the past you already contributed.
OK, and the point of the thread was that it’s still a good thing if they quit it now. No one can undo past mistakes but you can decide not to keep making them.
That’s true, people can grow and change. Heck, I used CharacterAI for a very, very brief period when I was lying to myself about it’s impact on not just the world and artists but myself too. I quickly realized I couldn’t defend it, and I didn’t like how it was affecting me personally either so I quickly got rid of it. Been strongly anti-“AI” ever since.
HOWEVER, I also think it is worth criticizing those who are only giving it up now, because that’s absurd. We’ve all know for ages that this stuff is horrible for everybody and everything an disrespectful to artists, and it doesn’t even take much thinking to come to that conclusion on your own. If this is the tipping point that makes someone give up “AI”, I still consider them a fucking idiot. I’m just glad their stupidity is harming everyone else a bit less now.
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Canada recently has had its 2nd worst school shooting ever. The killer had many interactions with ChatGPT that warranted banning her account. A whistleblower has claimed that they wanted to inform Canada’s police force of these comments but were denied by ChatGPT’s management.
They had a chance to stop the death of 8 people, most of which were young children, but failed to do anything.
FUCK CHATGPT AND THOSE BASTARDS THAT RUN IT
Why would you not contact police? I understand that this is a systemic failure and blame does not lie with that employee but if others me I’d rather be out of a job than have those deaths on my conscience for the rest of my life.
It’s probabilities. If you report it you’re 100% out of a job but only maybe prevented something bad from happening. If you don’t report, you keep your job but maybesomething bad happens. Reliance on a job for survival shifts the decision even further to taking the course of action that’ll keep you your job.
That’s a great answer to my question, thanks!
I don’t see how it’s certain loss of job when you could whistleblow without revealing your identity.
In my eyes some blame does lie with them. A systematic failure is a failure of many parts. An employee taking notice and following bad instructions is one of them.
I don’t know what information they had, but if they were at the point of intending to share, it seems like whistleblowing would have been the just and moral thing to do even if it means ignoring immediate authoritative structure.
Hell, yeah SCAM ALTMAN men can get BENT. I cancelled mine in solidarity with the Feb 13th crowd.
Glad that I’ve switched platforms. sam altman should probably be in prison or something.
I’ve been using Venice lately, they claim (I have done zero research to determine if this is true) that they’re privacy focused. They do run uncensored models, which is a big plus.
That said, I find myself using the lying machine less these days. It was like a fun video game when I first got my hands on it, entertaining for a while, and I’m moving on. Maybe I’m not imaginative enough to use it to the fullest potential, but I’m having more fulfillment actually writing and actually drawing (even though I am very bad at both).
I’ve been “canceling” them since they first showed up and I used it for 5 minutes and realized how terrible it is, but nice to see others catching up.
🫡 I’m going to try pressure my employer to do the same. Like is this thing saving anybody money??
Hell yeah!
I’d argue that an armed uprising would have a greater effect than a smaller internet-based boycott but I’m just some random guy on some niche internet forum so… who’s to say?
Quite frankly we don’t have the organizational infrastructure for that. An army, including a rebellion marches on its stomach. Small protest organization feeds into larger scale organization down the road. We’ve got to start somewhere.
Oh the stupidity, they already burn cash in dumpsters, they were always supplementing that with the users paying for it. The billionaires don’t give a shit, it’s a surveillance system not a chat box.
I am canceling my subscription now. Fuckers.
