• Drusas@fedia.io
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      This is the fediverse; shitting on the US is its favorite pastime, even when the US isn’t involved.

      Well, maybe second favorite pastime after talking about Linux.

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      It’s weird that the US makes this an everyone problem, but that’s the last hundred years of globalism

    • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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      That’s because he’s recently been on a state visit to the US where he was unanimously welcomed by all of Washington, with none of the politicians of either party bringing up how absurdly anti-denocratic and elitist monarchy is.

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        Im not really a fan of the monarchy but I feel like your assessment might be a little unfair.

        He gave a speech to congress and hilighted a lot of ways in which republicans are undermining democracy, and a lot about how Trump is destabilising global politics for no benefit.

        In that speech, literally in the lions den, he was more critical of Trumpism than any world leader has been in recent months.

        He can get away with it because hes a head of state, yet he has no control - the unique position of a monarch in a modern democracy.

        The silly hat is silly, but traditional garb always is.

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          while he’s here in the USA he should show some respect for our customs by wearing a MAGA hat & speaking our language!!!

        • arrow74@lemmy.zip
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          Don’t forget he is the head of state of a close ally. You should be nice to your allies’ heads of state when they visit your country.

          At least as a politician. The rest of us can rage

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            Yeah it’s not like he doesn’t know where America officially stands on the British monarchy. That’s like the one thing you can’t criticize us for compared to the other English speaking settler colonial nations.

        • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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          Ifeel like your assessment might be a little unfair

          I wholeheartedly disagree. If anything, I’m being too lenient on the ultraleech and his enablers.

          He gave a speech to congress and hilighted a lot of ways in which republicans are undermining democracy

          While that’s absolutely true, that rings EXTREMELY hollow coming from the head of the richest example of the most antidemocratic relic of the past.

          Monarchy even existing inherently undermines democracy.

          In that speech, literally in the lions den, he was more critical of Trumpism than any world leader has been in recent months

          Even if that was true (and I very much doubt it), it would still smack of hypocrisy coming from an ACTUAL king that personally owns more of the world’s real estate than any other human and shielded his child abusing brother for decades before finally relenting to public pressure with the utmost reluctance.

          yet he has no control

          Officially, he has very little control and a gentleman’s agreement not to use whatever institutional power he DOES have unless absolutely necessary, sure.

          In reality, though, he can and will break that agreement and exceed that authority whenever he feels like it and the worst that’ll happen to him is being criticized by some of the press for a while.

          a monarch in a modern democracy.

          Is a contradiction of terms if I ever saw one.

          Hell, the UK “democracy” isn’t even that modern BESIDES him and his immediate family: ever hear of a little thing called the House of Lords?

          The silly hat is silly, but traditional garb always is.

          It’s far past time to abandon tradition for tradition’s sake.

          It’s just peer pressure from dead people, and in the case of the UK monarchy, it’s wasting billions in public resources.

          Meanwhile, regular people in the UK are increasingly impoverished and suffering under draconian austerity policies.

            • merc@sh.itjust.works
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              If it’s done well, the evolution of the British House of Lords is actually really promising.

              It seems to be becoming a “House of Experts”. IMO elections result in a people of a certain personality type winning. There are a lot of people who would make excellent legislators who wouldn’t win that kind of popularity contest. There are also a lot of decisions that are unpopular in the short term (1 election cycle) but critical in the long term. If all legislators are facing re-election every 2-5 years it’s hard for them to pass those critical laws.

            • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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              While that’s DEFINITELY an important step in the right direction well worth celebrating, they’re still unelected elites who get a say on the laws of the land.

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            king that personally owns more of the world’s real estate than any other human

            Pure hysterics. He isn’t even the biggest landowner in the UK. He personally owns 46,000 hectares, while Anders Holch Povlsen owns 89,000.

            shielded his child abusing brother for decades before finally relenting to public pressure with the utmost reluctance.

            How did he “shield” him for decades? Charles has always resented Andrew and got rid of him as soon as he became King. Certainly without reluctance and probably with a spring in his step.

            he can and will break that agreement and exceed that authority whenever he feels like it and the worst that’ll happen to him is being criticized by some of the press for a while.

            As Parliament has proven in the past they can make a King suffer for thinking about exceeding constitutional boundaries.

            ever hear of a little thing called the House of Lords

            Which is an upper house mainly appointed by governments. It’s democratic, but not the form of democracy some people want.

            in the case of the UK monarchy, it’s wasting billions in public resources.

            Citation needed. The British monarchy (at £85m annual cost) is significantly cheaper than the French Presidency (£94m, excl. lifetime pension) for example.

            • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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              Its never time to abandon tradition just for the sake of it. That’s how you lose history.

              That’s not what I’m suggesting at all.

              I’m saying to keep traditions that have meaning to us beyond merely being tradition and stop wasting time, effort, and resources on the rest.

              Retire it for good reason, or repurpose it for the betterment of all.

              Agreed 100%

              Tradition is a symbol and a pillar of community.

              Though often not in a positive sense.

              Even the British monarchy has a place in the modern world

              100% disagree.

              Banishing it to the shadow realm just because it’s out of date is not the right call

              It’s not just because it’s out of date. It’s akso because it’s a gigantic waste of public resources and otherwise an inherently abusive exemplar of immense unearned privilege.

              There are plenty of other options that doesn’t just throw out the baby with the bath water.

              Bad choice of analogy. If the monarchy fits at all, it’s the filthy and cold bath water that’s no longer of use and is currently giving the baby, society, hypothermia.

      • captainlezbian@lemmy.world
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        So what, are we supposed to be insulting our allies and pushing them to change their system of government now? Like, yeah we should for the Saudis and Israel, but there are better things for us to criticize the UK for and we’re really in a glass house at the moment. And beyond all that, it’s not like our country’s official position on the British crown and monarchy in general has been unclear.

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        Lol yeah the US is a real bastard here for being friendly to the foreign leader they’re hosting. Really good take, you should run for office

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        To be fair, while having a monarchy is bullshit, it’s still less ridiculous than electing Donald Trump president.

        • Viking_Hippie@lemmy.dbzer0.comOP
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          it’s still less ridiculous than electing Donald Trump president

          True, but so are 99.999999% of all things that have ever happened in the history of all possible realities.

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      Look, I hope Trump gets skinned alive like that girl at the end of Martyrs, but that ornament is clearly an entirely different design. Compare the proportions of the top third, and the squiggly bit at the bottom.

      • Prior_Industry@lemmy.world
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        Let’s be honest it was probably still 60 bucks with the rest of the mark up miraculously ending up in a bank account that can’t be traced.

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          Nah. It’s actual gold. The more expensive the better. Why? It was bought with government dollars. I’m sure it was bought from a Trump-linked company, and it earned the president a massive “campaign donation” Maybe the fair market value is $100k. The company sold it to the White House for $250k. In return, the company made a $125k ‘campaign donation’ to the president.

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    I feel very comfortable with saying that they symbolise the failures of the human races much better than almost anything else.

    1. Fascism - there is an obvious link
    2. Classism - there is an obvious link
    3. Pedophilia - there is an obvious link
    4. Colonisation- there is an obvious link
    5. Exploitation …
    6. Politics by old people for old people
    7. Traditionalism
    8. …
    9. …

    You get the point. What is wrong with the world? A picture of these people would be a matching picture, no matter what answer you want to provide.

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    Eh, if we’re just talking about the fit, I’m kinda okay with a king as like a powerless cultural mascot if the people like it. Powerless being the operative word.

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      Problem is that they’re NOT powerless. Even in the constitutional monarchies of Europe where they’re SUPPOSED to be almost purely ceremonial figureheads, their wealth and social status means that they still DO have and abuse a shitload of power, political and otherwise.

      Plus, that fit isn’t just a fit. The crown alone is worth hundreds of millions if not billions of dollars in diamonds and precious metals and the reason why the coat is that ugly yellow is that it’s spun from GOLD THREAD.

      That’s right, he’s LITERALLY wearing more wealth than the average million people will ever see in their lifetimes…

  • Ivan Overdrive@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    I recently learned that King Charles was good friends with Jimmy Savile. I’m sure it’s a coincidence his brother, Andrew, was good friends with Jeffrey Epstein. Funny how those two child trafficking rings were two degrees of separation.

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    He’s the mascot for the UK version of KFC, which is King Chuckie’s Fried Chicken, & he’s extra crispy!

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      And Germany has a president.

      I can guarantee you that unless you’re german you know that the post exists and even more likely you don’t have a clue who the president is and what they do.

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      Whether or not a country has a monarchy doesn’t mean much as far as their system of government. All the Scandinavian countries have royal families, while the US, Israel, and Russia do not. Which countries are the most totalitarian?

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        Danish royalty is just as immoral as British royalty. This is pretty much the same as being religious while talking down other religions. No one should be treated like royalty, full stop. Its never made sense and it never will, its just coercion and manipulation turning people against themselves.

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          I don’t disagree, but in terms of real world effects the existence of a monarchy is less important than what power they actually wield.

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            I think large societies believing in this flawed social structure has immense real world effect, but you are right that not all of them wield the same practical power.

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      The fact that like 3/4 of all people are religious says more about the general stupidity IMO

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    If you are a 5 year old girl playing princess at your tea party, its a wonderful costume. And dont forget to hold your pinky up while sipping. Otherwise it just makes one look like an unrelatable out of touch idiotic tool.

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        that’s… awesome. I’m stealing this, in the same way that royals steal money from the UK people.