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Yeah gas should be a lot more expensive.
I agree when it comes to an onn TV. It should be the same price as a name brand TV.
And I think you shouldn’t be driving a giant gas guzzling SUV or truck.
17 gallons is 64 liters, that’s a midsize sedan tank.
Yeah you should not drive a tank either. Even if it is midsize.
some people have a buttload of kids to haul around. generalizing this topic isnt helpful
Could be a labourer. I didn’t see much point in trucks and such before but now it makes sense for some to have them.
I filled up a family members Rav4 the other day. It was $96.
Not exactly the best car, but hardly a gas guzzler. Or maybe it is, idk. I normally drive electric.
Even my motorcycle is $25 to fill
i took a chance last year and bought a honda ruckus for daily driving. it pays for itself in the gas im saving, i spend abt 10 bucks a month for gas. i hope to upgrade to a real bike at some point but for now i will enjoy the 100mpg perk.
can i ask what you ride, and the mpg?
Honda ruckus hell yeah I love those things! Sv650 and I get 60mph
oh i like that, reminds me of the honda hornet! i was wishing i had the budget for one of those lol
Yeah I mean at these prices even a lawn mower might cost $10 to fill
I follow a lot of lawn care YouTubers
More than a few commenting about raising prices and canceling contracts of customers not willing to pay enough to cover it
Its not an insignificant difference either, like +$40 on a weekly cut for a quarter acre lot. That’s between a 35-50% price increase depending on the market of the people I’m watching
The trucks to get there being the big portion of that increase not the mowers, but certainly the mower/trimmer/blower opex increased as well
Regardless though anyone not running primary electric rigs are definitely hurting right now
Those who invested into it early, and especially those who got State and Govt incentives, before the current administration shut them down have a massive opportunity to cash in over at least the next ~2 years while this settles, keeping their prices just below whatever their competitors have to charge until their routes are fully booked while those running gas are forced to raise prices and renegociate contracts to maintain profits
+$40 on a weekly cut for a quarter acre lot. That’s between a 35-50% price increase depending on the market of the people I’m watching
bruh is deep in the lore…
My CRV takes 10 gallon when it’s on empty. and gets 32 mpg. Just saying.
we’ve been going backwards on fuel efficiency. the little compact i had back in the early 90s got over 40mpg.
Greenpeace modified a compact car with off-the-shelf parts in 1996 so it could get 68mpg.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SmILEBecause we discovered that running the engine lean and hot for maximum efficiency creates NOx and we don’t like acid rain.
I think the gas was in the 6.50 range? Idk.
The display say 17.624 gallons. That is a full size SUV or truck.
That’s like 68 litres. My current sports car and my last 3 sedans have all had bigger tanks than that.
Just saying its less than what I paid for what I would consider to be a “standard”-ish vehicle?
I don’t think a rav4 stands out as an interesting vehicle.
Not necessarily. My 4-door sedan holds 18 gallons. It’s 12 years old now. Maybe they’re making them smaller now.
Why is your fuel so cheap??
Political choices and lobbying
Low taxes, high production, and government corn subsidies.
There was a Planet Money episode that broke down where the $4/gallon went in 2022:
$2.40 for the price of crude oil when priced at $100/barrel.
$0.65 to the refiner that turns crude oil into gasoline (this was the prevailing spread in 2022, maybe different now).
$0.184 in federal taxes
$0.30 in state taxes
$0.20 to $0.50 for transportation from the refiner to the actual retail station.
Remainder is for the retailer (usually about $0.30 but fluctuates wildly).
That’s how it is in the U.S. In other countries, it might be higher taxes, higher cost of refining, higher costs of transportation from the refiner, and higher margins for the retailer.
Probably before VAT.
Nope. Gas pumps are one of the only places in the US where the price as displayed includes taxes.
That’s bizarre. Worse than being consistent, somehow.
Because otherwise it would just be confusing? So let’s have two systems instead.
I mean if the US could get away with a more confusing system it would
Because the US is the largest exporter of petroleum products in the world.
Norway exports far more than they use, and petrol prices there are among the highest in the world.
That is a policy decision. In places like Saudi Arabia, gas is cheaper than water.
Norway, correctly, invested more into public transit and EVs, and high gas prices encourage that.
In places like Saudi Arabia, gas is cheaper than water.
Because it’s a fucking desert surrounded by salt water. Desalination is expensive.
Its a matter of abundance and where the government decides that abundance can go. Desal is expensive, but you have all the energy you need to power it flowing out of the ground, the cost is somewhat defrayed.
The Gulf states chose to hoard the wealth at the top and build major hubs without reliable public transit. Which is reflective of a policy decision. Its also a matter of what refineries are where and what grade of oil they will process.
US fuel is heavily subsidized compared to the rest of the world.
And assholes, but I saw a pack of hotdogs for 10 bucks today here in Oklahoma
I was thinking that. Hot fuck is that cheap.
I guess there has to be something positive about the country.
I can’t tell if you’re from outside the US, or from California.
Ha. But am outside, and an online calculator says the price here converts to $9.08 a gallon for diesel. And that’s cheaper than it’s been recently.
Gas is a cheat code to decades of stored solar energy. It won’t be cheap for ever. Once you mine up all that shit it’s gone.
Look at WV and their coal. Use to have 12 ft coal seams. Now all that’s left are hard to reach low quality 1-2ft seams. At some point it’s not even worth the energy to extract.
There are people who believe the earth regenerates and creates more petroleum… In essence it will never run out
There’s probably a step g correlation to flat earthers
It will! Just not within human life spans that’s my answer usually. Alot of their thoughts are grounded in something real. Its easier then telling them they are flat out wrong usually.
Unless it’s the flat earthers
It probably won’t to my understanding. Most fossil fuels are from large organic material deposits (usually from plants) underwater or in low oxygen environments where they aren’t disturbed/don’t decompose. Basically the conditions for fossil fuels to be remade don’t exist anymore so we really aren’t getting any more
There’s definitely location on earth where they will get generate again. Plus climate change only really means the extinction of all human life as we know it. Everything else will carry on, it’s not the first large level extinction event.
The conditions that created it are likely to arise again. Most oil deposits are actually from innumerable numbers of planktonic life that built up on the ocean floor. Coal is from plant matter though.
Point is its generally easier to redirect then reprogram people, with enough nudges they’ll start to see they are being lied to, or at least will know not to bother you with that specific subject anymore
I ride an ebike. Can someone explain the picture on the left? Is it some sort of tax booth for car ownership?
Your bike has zero impact on the environment. Good for you
The metals used in the frame and battery magically floated down from heaven. Also the tires and plastic parts weren’t used from petroleum …not at all
Not zero, but dwarfed by a car. An E-bike is hands down way more eco-friendly option
There was a recent article detailing how if you put a lot of miles on your ebike you’ll need to replace the battery and it’s surprisingly expensive.
But I agree with the other downvoters that you can’t just say “but bad thing” you have to put them into perspective. And your parent comment didn’t claim ebikes are perfect or even good. Just that they literally don’t use gas.
The production impact should be still smaller than the production of a motorbike
Lol you can see where the “I did that” sticker used to be…
Wonder if it was an old Biden version or a new Trump version.
It is an Onn brand tv… so its super cheaply made, sold buy a fascist supporting company, likely contains Spyware, and will break after 3 years of consistent use. Hmm. That or 15 gallons of liquid corpses that i can burn to slowly contribute to the death of all life on earth… hmm. Choices choices. Think I’ll walk/bike.
One of those doesn’t come loaded with ads.
Unless your gas pump has ads, or it’s a non-smart tv
I meant post purchase, i.e. fuel once it gets in your tank and the TV once you get it home, but yeah, you’re right too.
You guys subsidize milk, you should be paying more. And our milk is better quality and organic, Thats why we refuse to buy the crap from the US
Do… do you put milk in your car?
Are you okay, buddy?
Yeah I drive a 2010 Frosted Flakes
32” is tiny and even at $3 a gallon, that fill would be over $50.
I’m not really seeing the argument here tbh. It’s apples and oranges.
What kind of car needs 17 Gallons of capacity?
Generic mid-size sedan from Europe or the US. 64 liters. VW Passat or Mercedes C-class territory. E-class used to get 80 liters as an option.
It’s so you don’t have to get fuel more than once or twice a month at most.
Why not?
Oil is a product manufactured by millions of years of stratified organic stuffs and high pressures, it is a concentrate of energy.
TV is not as useful.
ehh, why not? electronics got really cheap.
Nah its a ad delivery and surveillance device that you pay for, like the superbox but less nefarious https://darknetdiaries.com/episode/172/
Well the gas would be cheaper if they could somehow make it contain advertising and data theft
The pumps do
Oh wait till you find out about how modern cars are mining your data, including facial recognition and reporting of you are having sex in the car! And the best part it’s all unregulated! Govt can simply buy the info for tracking even your Phone would be jealous of!
As someone who makes that software that does this, we can’t even figure out how to properly handle the data we actually want, like analytics to see if anyone actually uses the auto feature on your air conditioner. Nobody actually cares if you have sex in your car. Besides you’re on Lemmy we know your aren’t having sex.
Why is it all in the terms of service? Also there have there been numerous data leaks. The sex thing is from a specific manufacturer m’s TOS, but nonetheless
Sad accuracy noises
Well yea f course I’m not having sex, I’m on my phone at the kitchen table, where do you think I am, my car? (-)(-)
Somebody forgot all previous instructions and dropped those straight facts.
I love it when the government finds out when I have sex. It’s so romantic – just me, her, and the CIA.
It depends, if it out of the country it’s you, her, and the CIA, if it’s inside the US, it’s you, her, and the NSA
Don’t know which one I prefer as a cuck tbh
Why not both?
Sounds like a song title “it’s you, her, and the CIA”
Sounds like something chef would sing.
It’s a party in the CIA
Never been happier to have a base model car from 2012
Never been happier to have a car that can’t even be sold in the US because it can’t connect to any form of network.
What car?
A Peugeot
That sounds like a pokemon
At least send me the footage for my onlyFans
Where in America do you have gas pumps that don’t have ad TVs or ask you for your zip code?
Very few of the ones around me have the built in ad players. Several stations blare ads (inevitably largely for themselves, curiously enough) over the PA system constantly, though.
The ZIP code thing is for credit card verification. I ask for that too, when you pay me by credit card. I don’t have a choice unless I’d like to enjoy zero fraud and chargeback protection.
The gas station nearest me has screens that show ads, but they’re just for that facility and they don’t have audio. However, the store does have a PA system constantly playing audio, a combination of music and ads.
My favorite ad is the one that advertises themselves to advertisers. I don’t remember the exact wording, but it’s basically “want to advertise something? We’ve essentially got a captive audience and there are a lot of them!”
Lots of places now
You don’t get ads on your gas pump?
They don’t exist in my country, and to be frank, I’m shocked they aren’t vandalised to hell and back by masked vigilantes at night.
The screen used for blaring ads is the same screen that you have to read to be able to use the pump.
Show ads on the screen -> screen is vandalised -> nobody can buy gas anymore -> people go to the gas station without ads (and thereby functioning screens) -> lose money to the competition-> recognise that you lose money by blaring ads -> stop blaring ads -> … -> profit
