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Depends. If traffic is light, they’re not going significantly faster than the speed of traffic in the other lane, or they’re going significantly slower than the car in front of them, yes, they’re an asshole. If traffic is relatively dense, they’re passing the right lane at a good speed, and they’re matching the speed of the car in front of them, no, everyone shouldn’t change lanes just because you think, “passing,” lane means, “drive as fast as I want regardless of traffic patterns,” lane.
Making everyone in front of you change lanes because you’ve decided the passing lane isn’t passing as fast as you’d like is just going to create slowdowns behind you as you continually cause other cars to change lanes. Also, no matter what, if you’re following someone that closely at highway speeds, you’re an asshole. Flash your high beams if you wanna pass.
Kind of surprised by how many people are defending this shit.
If you tailgate people, you can go fuck yourself.
Zero “people” are defending this. Anyone defending this is subhuman.
You’re correct, but as a schematic the image is also correct.
Allowing someone to tailgate you for an extended period is also an asshole maneuver.
Seriously, driving slow and clogging the passing lane is irritating and dangerous, but tailgating is just making a dangerous situation even worse. Plus, if a person is already absentminded enough to be cruising in the left lane they’re likely not going to be rational enough to interpret that as “move over.” Instead they’ll just think “some crazy asshole is on my ass” and either keep as-is, panic, or try some spiteful move like slowing down in the left lane and further compound things.
Can confirm. Tailgating will fuck financially and physically. Just ask any insurance agent.
In my state it is law that slower traffic move to the right lane. That means if your hall monitor ass is running the speed limit in the left lane and you are holding up traffic that wants to go faster than you, you are not only the asshole you can be pulled over and cited and I have seen it enforced.
So it’s legal in your state to exceed the speed limit of you want to go faster than the guy in the fast lane that is going exactly the limit?
It isn’t the fast lane, it’s the PASSING LANE. If you are in that lane and you aren’t passing, YOU are the problem.
Edit: And if you are going 2167 mph in a 55 and not passing, you are STILL THE PROBLEM.
I meant passing lane. But I was just asking the question because nowhere in the United States are you allowed to exceed the speed limit legally…even to keep up with traffic. Was just funny that he suggested someone was doing something illegal that prevented him from doing something illegal.
Move. Right.
All the people saying move right just want to drive in the left lane at illegal speed. Crazy lack of self reflection.
I’m not saying don’t move right… just saying the guy used the law to say you need to move over(so he can break the law)… and that this was the law… which it obviously isn’t. JUust thought it was funny.
The law specifically states that you must yield the left lane to faster traffic. Every few months the highway patrol gets real energetic about enforcing it too. Hall monitors are rewarded with fat fines.
You can say that, but there are practicalities here. Where I live, it is highly unusual for someone to be going the speed limit on the freeway. It is completely unfeasible for cops to try to do anything to curtail that on an individual basis, so only the people doing truly dangerous things tend to get pulled over. I just play zebra and enjoy blending into all the other people going 15 over.
Yes. In practice it is legal to exceed the speed limit, as speed limits are written artificially low with the understanding that people will violate them.
“But it’s technically illegal” is a terrible argument. There are so many rules of the road, and you, like every driver, are constantly making minor violations of the law. If every driving law were enforced 100%, there would be no more drivers on the road within a matter of weeks.
There’s a reason it’s long been understood that cops can pull anyone over any time they want. Technically they can only pull people over for violating traffic laws, but it is literally impossible to drive without violating traffic laws.
I regularly have my cruise set at 10 over, going 80 on the 70 mph highway. Most people seem to only go like 75. In well over a decade of traveling forty miles each way doing this and not once slowing down when I see a cop in the median have I ever been pulled over. I like when cops are in the median because then jackasses tend to move over. My adaptive cruise keeps me several car lengths back but it’s still annoying that people just hang out going five over in the far left lane when there’s no other cars around. I prefer not to pass on the right but I’m not sitting behind some jackass for miles just because they think they own a lane of the road. It pleases me the dozen or so times I’ve seen a cop whip out and I’m sure they think I’m going to be pulled over for passing on their right going faster than them and so far every single time their dumbass has been the one the cop pulled over.
You misunderstood what I was inferring. The post I was referring to used the fact that driving in the passing lane at the speed limit is illegal if there is someone behind them that’s wants to pass while driving over the speed limit… which is not true. They sighted using the law to allow them to break the law. Ir was just funny.
That actually is illegal where I live though. If you are in the far left lane going the speed limit and not letting someone pass you will get an impeding the flow of traffic ticket for holding up a vehicle trying to go above the speed limit. In my experience that will be prioritized over ticketing the speeding vehicle.
Which area do you live that allows exceeding the speed limit legally? I’ve never heard of this traffic law anywhere in the United States at least.
Edit: it turns out there are 5 stats that technically allow you to briefly exceed the limit to pass another vehicle.
I’m not saying it’s specifically legal, I’m saying the police never pull anyone over for speeding on this particular highway unless they are going over 10mph over or have another reason to stop someone. Almost everyone goes 5 over. A decent amount go 10 over.
Yes. The speed limit in most states isn’t a hard limit.
The speed limit in most states isn’t a hard limit
The speed limit is the maximum speed allowed by law. Doesn’t matter if you’re passing, delivering a baby or have gone over that speed a million times and never been pulled over, if you exceed the posted speed limit you are breaking the law. It’s one of the few extremely cut and dry traffic laws
Im surprised by the people indicating that they don’t pull over on purpose, literally just to be an asshole… Tailgating is idiotic, but you can do something about it by getting out of the way. Its safer to have as much room around you as possible. Don’t tailgate, let people pass, and pass quickly. Who wants to drive right next to someone, in their blind spot or in yours? Use your controls to either speed up or slow down.
For the tailgater’s here, driving fast barely saves time on short trips. You might save as much as 2 minutes on your daily 20 mile commute driving like an absolute maniac. But who wants to risk a ticket or accident doing that everyday and then paying an increased insurance rate on top of potentially losing your car and spending time in the hospital with an insane medical bill?
Not that it’s the right thing to do, but you can save a surprising amount of time driving fast. If traffic is averaging 60mph, and you, being a psycho BMW/etc driver manage to average 90, even over just 20 miles, you’ll get there over six minutes sooner.
The time savings of course gets pretty nuts over 200+ miles with even just a 10-15 mph difference, and sometimes reasonable speed differences are more than that in situations like getting stuck behind trucks passing other trucks at 55-60 vs the 80mph speed limit on some highways.
I rarely if ever see a tailgater tailgate one car that’s doing something wrong, and then immediately go back to being cool.
So? I don’t want to be the one they crash into.
If I’m in traffic and I need that lane and I’m going at least the speed limit you can suck it bro dozer.
Get the fuck out of the passing lane if youre not passing anyone you fucking degenerates.
If I’m passing people fuck you if you want to do it faster. If I’m on a multi lane city street fuck you if I have a turn coming up.
Go the flow of traffic or gtfo
One speeding tail gating bro dozer isn’t the flow. No matter how fast you are going you will always pick up some asshole who is racing everyone.
Yeah that’s why there is a passing lane, get it off it if you’re not passing. It’s not a hard concept
On the a divided highway, sure. On a multilane city street I’m staying in the lane I need.
I do. Because if there’s room to my right, I can shift over, let someone pass, then move back to the left. It’s not like it takes effort to do it. To be clear I agree about city streets though - I think pretty much everyone will agree there. This is highway rules only (where the signs are saying to keep right).
Okay. I don’t and wont. They can wait the five to ten seconds extra for me to go around and settle back into the right lane. Nearly all of the people rushing the left lane stay in it and never go to the right. They don’t know the rules and wouldn’t care if they did.
If you’re that close to the car in front, you’re the bigger asshole and causing by far the bigger danger
For real though, I will move over to the other lane as soon as I safely can, some people don’t know how to wait for 5 fucking seconds.
And they all get mad on the internet when you call them out on their shitty, selfish impatience.
So true. I can’t believe how often i’ve seen morons like this also say something like “actually driving too slow is dangerous too”
Because it is.
Don’t hangout in the left lane.
It is, but suboptimal driving behaviour of your fellow drivers is never an excuse to consciously make road traffic even more dangerous or behave aggresively.
Yeah. And they rarely give a fully articulated reason why “driving too slow is dangerous”. Because they know that the real reason - “it makes other people drive aggressively” - is trying to place the blame on slow drivers for the actions of actually dangerous drivers.
Of course, you should drive at an appropriate speed. But in terms of safety messaging, it’s not the thing to focus on.
Going significantly slower than the rest of traffic can be dangerous in a limited number of scenarios, but not frequently enough for people to bring it up in casual conversation.
The one frequent scenario I can think of off the top of my head is merging onto the highway. At least once a week it feels like I’m stuckbehingd someone trying to merge onto the highway 10mph under the speed limit making it more dangerous for everyone stuck behind them.
Also going significantly slower than traffic and changing multiple lanes at once, slowing down far too early for an exit, going very slow in the middle lane so traffic flows around both sides, and some others as well. Basically if the car is going slow enough to be comparable to something stationary in the road it can be a hazard.
But it really does have to be wildly different from traffic, not just 10-15 mph different.
There is a entry lane onto 94 north of chicago where the speed limit is 70 mph but every single person wants to merge at like 45 mph, but then they will keep on accelerating (slowly) to like 100 mph and pass you. I fucking don’t understand.
It’s always dangerous on the highway. If you’re going significantly slower other drivers will not realize how fast they will catch up to you and can’t brake properly.
The people who are obsessed with this are also the people who seem to think any person in the left lane at any time gives them justification to aggressively weave in and out of traffic, ignoring the equally present laws against speeding and undertaking.
This is my impression too. The number of times I have been held up by someone hogging the outside lane, or had to change lanes twice around someone hogging the middle, is very low compared to the number of times I’ve been held up by a lorry overtaking another lorry on a two-lane road (perfectly legal, happens at least a dozen times every trip on such roads) or been aggressively tailgated while I’m overtaking traffic (not legal, happens about once per such trip)
or been aggressively tailgated while I’m overtaking traffic
Are you one of those people that creates a massive road hazard by trying to pass by driving a single mile per hour faster than the cars in the right lane?
Are you one of those people who wants to go 30 over everywhere you go, and fuck anyone with the gall to get in your way?
How does that create a “massive road hazard”?
Are you one of those people that creates a massive road hazard by driving two car lengths behind the vehicle in front? Because unlike you I can explain in exactly what scenario that leads to a crash.
You close the gap gradually as a reminder to get the fuck out of the way. The sticker is correct. Get out of the fast lane.
Incorrect in Wisconsin, FWIW. By law, we have the speed limit, and “slower traffic keep right.” And there’s no keeping-up-with-flow-of-traffic clause, either. So traveling at the limit in the left lane is completely legal, there’s no obligation to clear the way for lawbreakers.
Completely legal doesn’t mean you aren’t a dick for doing it
Sometimes you gotta pass speed-governed semis and adaptive-cruise folks; I’m not worried about criminals’ opinions of me.
I’m not worried about criminals’ opinions of me.
Lmao this would be a great bit if you weren’t serious
Thank you!
Atleast you make it easy to tag you as an entitled piece of shit
If you have slower traffic keep right, and there is no one to the right of the slower moving car, shouldn’t they keep right in that case?
No, not if they’re travelling at about the speed limit. It would be illegal to overtake.
It is also illegal to stay in the left lane when other people are speeding. If they are going faster than you, you are by definition slower traffic and obliged to keep to the right.
Your job as a driver is not to police other drivers’ behaviors. It’s not even to follow the letter of the law. It’s to operate the vehicle safely. Creating obstacles for other people because you don’t think they should drive so fast is not a safe action.
Really, we need to collectively get rid of the idea of a “fast lane.” The left lane is a passing lane. You should only be in it when you’re attempting to pass someone, and when the pass is complete, you should move over.
I’d just point out, as in my original comment, that is incorrect in Wisconsin. It is perfectly legal to drive at the speed limit in the left lane here. We don’t have any notion of a passing lane in state law.
Out of courtesy, I stay to the right, but almost every semi is doing 65MPH when the limit is 70MPH, the adaptive-cruise people hanging behind them are even slower. So, I pass them. Interestingly, by following the speed limit, I’ll encounter maybe one or two left-lane campers in a four-hour highway trip. It would seem that the people trying to police the behavior of slower (than they’d like) drivers in fast or passing lane are the greater problem.
Just a quick bit of searching, and I found a Wisconsin sheriff who is far less definitive on this than you:
According to state law, any vehicle traveling “at less than the normal speed of traffic” must be driven in the right-hand lane, or as close as practicable, except when overtaking and passing another vehicle.
So Wisconsin does acknowledge that anyone going less than the normal speed of traffic should only use the left lane to pass. But, as the sheriff points out:
“It describes normal traffic, so to say somebody going 80 is normal is going to be very difficult for me to say that. So normal being above the speed limit, you’ve got two conflicting sets of laws here.”
And it’s okay that traffic laws conflict with each other because, again, the point is not the letter of the law, but the safe and predictable operation of the vehicle.
Eh, I see nothing wrong with passing on the right. If you’re driving correctly, it shouldn’t even be possible for someone to pass you on the right.
There’s legal and there’s things you should do. If the highway is three lanes, move the fuck over.
As I’ve been reminded, it’s not your job to police other drivers’ behavior. 😉
Nor is it yours. Even in your own comments you admit that the left lane is the passing lane. If someone is behind you, you’re slower traffic. You’re obligated to move over, and you’re in the wrong if you do not.
What is it with you power freaks that just have to enact control by fucking with other people? Find a better way to get a rage boner.
You need to have your drivers license taken away. Cops openly brag about being able to pull people over whenever they want. They can do this because there are so many rules of the road, that it is literally impossible to drive without violating them.
So really, drop the bullshit “but it’s illegal!!!” cope. You violate the law every time you get on the road. Traffic laws are written to be selectively enforced. You make it illegal to speed and then leave it to officer discretion.
Hell, I say we throw you in jail for life. If every law was enforced against everyone who violates them, then everyone would be in jail for life.
You’ve committed enough crimes to get yourself locked away for life. Perhaps you shouldn’t appeal to the law so readily.
You raise a valid point about how our legal system can be used as a tool of oppression. However, in practice, the State Patrol here are generally pretty ethical, and they pull people over for speeding and reckless driving most of the time. Never for obeying the speed limit.
So you’re the person who stays in the left lane with a mile of cars behind you?
Do everyone else a favor and stay off the highway.
Lol, no.
There’s no such thing as a “fast lane”. “Fast lane” implies that there’s a speed fast enough to justify staying there, which is false.
It’s the passing lane. You use it to pass slower traffic in the middle lane before getting back into the middle lane. If you’re not passing people, you do not belong in that lane.
But people do go faster in that lane than the other lanes, because they have to in order to pass.
You do not have to pass someone. There’s actually no justification for passing someone who is already driving at the speed limit.
True, but people cleaning things in the kitchen doesn’t make it the cleaning room. It’s the passing lane, speed is a byproduct of the actual purpose.
Fair point!
Your desire to go faster than the car in front does not overrule rules of safe driving. If you think it does, or if you’re so impatient you are unable to think rationally in this situation, your attitude is not suitable for driving a two ton machine at 70-odd miles per hour.
The sticker is wrong. Get out of the driver’s seat.
Lol bro/sphene. Just move over. Your attitude really isnt fit for sharing communal resources.
Just let me past bro. Just get out of my way bro. Just get out of my way or I’ll drive up your arse bro. My right to go fast is more important than your right to safely use the road bro.
I’ll move over when I’m good and ready. Which will be slower if some cunt is right behind me, because I need to make very certain, by double and triple checking my mirrors and blind spots, that you haven’t already decided to undertake, and that there’s definitely nothing that would cause me to have to abort my lane change, because said cunt will already be squeezing past me and I won’t be able to.
I’ll also need to lower my own speed so that their following distance is less likely to cause them to drive into the back of me in the event I have to emergency brake, and less likely to cause their own ruin if I have to swerve suddenly out of the way of some road debris that they than have no chance to spot because they’re trying to get into my back seats.
You must have been a hall monitor.
I don’t know what that is. You sound upset that someone is criticising your driving.
😂
That was my reaction too. The worst drivers are the ones who treat the highway like a race track, always looking to pass anyone in sight, swerving into any lane to do so, and tailgating people as a strategy to get what they want. I hate those people so much. Yeah it’s super annoying to get blocked by a car in the left lane but you’re right, the tailgater is the worse person here.
i hired a car in Miami, driving to Disney world, as an Australian we “keep left” in this situation,. so along with trying to drive at the speed limit, in a foreign country, on the “wrong” side of the road, I kept getting the finger and beeping… wtf. Took me about 4 dudes in trucks “polietly” informing me of my trangression for me to realise… keep right :)
That is just drinking in Miami, and Florida in general.
There is no enforcement in Florida for left hand lanes. Both lanes are for whatever you want and there is very little enforcement. Source: Been driving in Florida for multiple decades.
The tailgater is also an ass hole.
I like to drive about 20 over on long hauls, so technically “I’m passing.” PERMANENTLY
Not how it works at all
I’m more the guy behind the pink one
Boof the sunshine
Sorry that I want to create enough space for safety. If you’d just drive the speed limit instead of switching between 15 and 5 under the speed limit, I wouldn’t have had to overtake you.
Can’t believe they got the apostrophe in the right place.
the arrow is pointing at the empty lane.
Says the bumper sticker on the giant ass pickup truck who blocks your entire view and always drives 5mph below the limit.
They can be an asshole and still be right.
Absolutely but I wonder if they appreciate the irony.
The North American truck schmuck, there are many and they grow larger each year due to environmental pressures brought on by higher temperatures, worsening education and shrinking penises.
I’m in the midwest and the shit is an epidemic already, I’m not going to yuck someone’s yum but there has to be a limit to what people are allowed to drive on the road, those giant trucks are so unsafe, you can barely see anything over the hood unless it’s 20 ft in front of you.
That video of the truck driving over the Ferrari in a parking lot that recently went viral occured because the truck driver literally could not see the vehicle and did not realize there was a problem until their vehicle could not longer move. At least that’s what the truck driver said, but it’s somewhat believable given the sheer height difference between the notably lifted truck and the notably low to the ground Ferrari
“If I’m tailgating you, you’re an asshole.”
The small dick energy of this truck is amazing.
The irony of putting this on the tailgate when he would need to be the car in purple for anyone else to see it.
