• Absurdly Stupid @lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    God loves you unconditionally, under no conditions

    Sure, He loves you so much that He must torture you for all eternity for not letting Him into your heart (or cursing His Magic Bird, of course, that goes without saying)*

    *only applicable to Bible God, your God(s) may differ

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      4 months ago

      Blasphemy of the Holy Spirit is rejecting God until death.

      Hell is just the abyss, non existence and we know VERY little about it, dantes inferno is a blatant fanfic

      • ProdigalFrog@slrpnk.net
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        4 months ago

        Hell is just the abyss, non existence and we know VERY little about it, dantes inferno is a blatant fanfic

        The Catholic Church affirms “the existence of hell and its eternity”, holding that “those who have responded to the love and piety of God go to eternal life, those who have refused them to the end go to the fire that is not extinguished”.

        Thomas Aquinas (considered one of the most influential thinkers in the history of Catholic theology) taught that on Judgment Day, the punishment of hell will consist of fire and of “whatever is ignoble and sordid”, since “all the elements conduce to the torture of the damned”, who “placed their end in material things”. The worm of the damned is a guilty conscience, that the damned will suffer over the fact of having separated themselves from God, that the damned will physically weep on Judgement Day, that hell is so full of darkness that the damned can only see things which will torment them, that the “disposition of hell” is “utmost unhappiness”, that the fire of hell is non-physical (before Judgment Day) and physical (at Judgment Day), that the physical fire of hell will not be made of matter, and that whether or not hell is under the earth is unknown. The suffering of punishment is according to one’s sins, so that some will suffer more, in deeper and darker pits of hell, than others.

        Whatever it is, it is quite clearly infinite torture.

      • HugeNerd@lemmy.ca
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        4 months ago

        There is no god, no heaven, no devil, no hell, no angels, no demons.

        Unless you think these gods are also real:

        Achilles, Adapa, Aeneas, Allah, Ame-no-minaka-nushi, An, Anšar, Antu, Anubis, Anzû, Aphrodite, Apollo, Apsu, Areop-Enap, Ares, Artemis, Asag, Asclepius, Aššur, Athena, Atiya Kuru Shidaba, Atra-Hasīs, Atum, Âu Cơ, Awonawilona, Baal, Baldur, Bau, Beowulf, Bes, Buga, Bull of Heaven, Buninka, Cronus, Dangun, Dâyuni’sï, Demeter, Dionysus, Dumuzi, Enki, Enkidu, Enlil, Ereškigal, Esege Malan, Freya, Freyr, Gaia, Geb, Gichi-manidoo, Gilgameš, Grendel, Hades, Hathor, Hephaestus, Hera, Heracles, Hercules, Hermes, Hine-nui-te-pō, Horus, Hwanin, Hwanung, Inanna, Ishtar, Isis, Käng, Kamui, Kāne, Khnum, Ki, Kišar, Kūkaʻilimoku, Kukulkan, Lạc Long Quân, Lahamu, Lahmu, Loki, Lono, Ma, Mahavira, Marduk, Montu, Nabû, Nammu, Nephthys, Nergal, Neti, Ninḫursaĝ, Ninlil, Ninurta, Nisroch, Nusku.

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          4 months ago

          I’ll honestly believe all those mythological gods are real before the christian god (and any other monotheistic gods that are the embodiment of perfection and omnipotence). See, mythological gods were way more like people, they made mistakes, they got jealous, they got angry and they sometimes even died. They weren’t omnipotent, omniscent or omnipresent, and they had limited power. That makes them not only more interesting and better for telling stories or even teaching morals, but also way more believable than whatever christianism has.

        • root@lemmy.wtf
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          4 months ago

          There is no SCIENCE, no SCIENTIFIC METHOD,

          unless you think these theories are also valid:

          Flat Earth Theory, Fake Bird Drones Theory, Covid Bioweapon Theory,

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          • Warl0k3@lemmy.world
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            4 months ago

            All examples of things that are eminently addressable with the scientific method - so I’m glad we can agree that you believe Innana et. al. exist!

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            4 months ago

            Yes, they are theories. They are also testable.

            Your imaginary gods that don’t exist and have never shown even a neutrino’s worth of evidence.

            Has any prayer ever regrown a severed fingertip? Ever?

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              • Warl0k3@lemmy.world
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                4 months ago

                This is what amounts to a micdrop for you, is it? A link to one paragraph that provides no proof whatsoever, but instead claims said proof both exists and is beyond dismissal?

                Pathetic.

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                  4 months ago

                  How the Healing Was Confirmed

                  The diocesan tribunal investigated the case. The Vatican’s Congregation for the Causes of Saints reviewed the maternal-fetal medical records and comparative ultrasound imaging. Pope Francis approved the miracle decree in May 2020.

                  Understanding the Illness

                  Fetal hydrops (hydrops fetalis) is a severe condition in which abnormal amounts of fluid accumulate in the fetus’s tissues and organs—around the heart, lungs, abdomen, or under the skin. It is usually fatal, with survival rates under 10% even with intensive treatment. Spontaneous resolution in utero is medically unprecedented.

                  Full Narrative

                  Blessed Michael McGivney (1852–1890) founded the Knights of Columbus. In February 2015, Michelle Schachle’s unborn son was diagnosed with hydrops fetalis—a usually fatal accumulation of fluid in the fetus’s tissues and organs—plus Down syndrome. Doctors gave zero chance of survival and encouraged abortion. Daniel and Michelle Schachle refused and prayed to Fr. McGivney. Daniel promised to name the boy Michael if healed.

                  The documentation. The healing of fatal fetal hydrops in utero is supported by comparative pre- and post-healing ultrasound imaging and maternal-fetal medical records. The before-and-after imaging provides objective evidence that the condition—which is typically fatal—completely resolved without medical intervention. Mikey was born healthy and continues to thrive today.

                  Pope Francis approved the miracle in May 2020; McGivney was beatified October 31, 2020. The Knights of Columbus (kofc.org) and Catholic News Agency document the case.

                  Why It Matters

                  Fetal hydrops is typically fatal. The comparative pre- and post-healing ultrasound imaging provides objective, verifiable evidence. McGivney founded the Knights of Columbus—a major American Catholic organization. The case is exceptionally well-documented by modern maternal-fetal medicine standards.

                  • Warl0k3@lemmy.world
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                    4 months ago

                    blah blah blah no evidence actually provided blah blah blah trust me, bro!

                    I did read it initially - that’s how I know they didn’t provide any evidence. If they had it, they probably would have mentioned it.