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      The Boys is also Zio slop, Frenchy was an IOF soldier (war criminal settler terrorist) who bragged about ripping a child away from her family.

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        Well then, this explains a lot.

        Israeli zionosts seem to have a case of Mel Gibson syndrome… They seem extremely violent, and they like to make violent ass movies and shows.

        I’m not a prude, I watch violent stuff, but wonder woman and the boys are just… Too far. Like, you can tell they’re a little too fucked up.

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          I don’t know or care who either of those people are lol

          If you employ a Zionazi soldier in your show, I’m not watching it. It also got to be a bit shit later on anyway.

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            Wow so staunch. What if someone served in the US armed forces and then became an actor? Would you never watch that show? Genuinely curious

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              Possibly. Probably depends if they saw active duty and their attitude about their service.

              But let’s improve your weak premise a little: if they served in the US military and bragged about ripping children away from their family like the IOF shitstain in question did, I would absolutely never watch that show.

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              “edgy is when not wanting to watch war criminals on TV” - liberal lobotomite, probably

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                You’re what we’d call mentally ill. You might want to try to do something about that before you hurt someone. Or you know, be the next evening entertainment for your dictator. The best thing he knows is when they scrape people like you off the pavement riddled with bullets.

                Go on, be all you can be. Maybe even take an SS agent or two with ya to …well yeah . Why give that fat fuck the satisfaction?

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        The shit your mom cooks is slop. Cancer-inducing, low-end brain rot that’d make Nestlè blush. This 'cuisine is what mostly kept your degenerate incestuous ‘extended family “alive”’. For all these long years.

        When you’re not eating each other, of course, fucking each other. Or both.

        Eventually, we’ll burn all ya’ll alive and dance on the fucking ashes. One day, Fuck-face.

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        So, because a single, secondary actor (who got killed off) has a dark past, the entire franchise (that’s all about reconciling with darks pasts) is ruined?

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          Yes.

          They also tried conflating criticism of the Zionazi ideology as being some weird MAGA fringe attitude.

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            Oy gevalt … OK, I may be an idiot for entertaining this… Conjuncture… but, I’m also pretty open minded, and this is the time where we need to listen to a lot of new voices

            Go on now. Explain exactly what you mean by this. Start from the beginning, and ELI5. I’m listening

            And if you expect me to take you seriously, include references from reliable sources.

            Edit: you can dispense with the anti-Zionism bullshit. Yes I understand. Israel is committing a genocide against Palestine (and currently Lebanon) and all that. Just because I’m a Jew doesn’t mean I’m a Zionist. Let’s move on from that point.

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              I stopped watching the garbage show and am clearly not half as emotionally invested in it as you are, so I don’t recall specifically. I just remember there was one line in the show, iirc by the Nazi lady, which implied that anti-Zionism is akin to some MAGA mentality. It was the only time Zionism was ever specifically mentioned in the show so it shouldn’t be that hard for you to find if you care that much.

              I never accused you of being a Zionist and don’t care what your ethnicity is (in terms of being discriminatory), deep breaths lol

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                Please… It’s not others job to find references for you. If you fail to reference something, that is your cape. We should not normalize outsourcing of referencing.

                lets have good conversation ettiquette

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                  I really don’t care if you believe me about a specific reference pertaining to a garbage show that hired a settler-terrorist for their cast.

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        It’s funny because shortly after I read that somewhere else in a lemmy comment, they

        Warning, The Boys final season spoiler

        killed his character. Lol.

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    kal-el no? thats probably her best line. she probably got nepo her way into hollywood, her acting is bad as the rock, and rock has his political leanings quite questionable too.

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    I was pretty disgusted with the first movie she was in. The original wonder woman movie.

    She was this super powered killing machine just WASTING humans left and right. Just seemed insanely fucked up.

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      I didn’t watch it. I just saw a couple of her interviews and she was super pretty and charming. I watched a clip of the no man’s land scene from that movie and it was pretty cool. Not into superhero flicks unfortunately

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      What’s crazy is that after she killed all these drafted soldiers in a morally grey war, with no hesitation, suddenly there’s this whole moral line drawn about killing someone who’s actively committing war crimes and fully intending to prolong the war and keep making chemical weapons.

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        Yes but the moral line was not from her. It was from the mandated Eurocentric male love interest.

        If anything, her problem (character-wise) was that she believed anything was fine so long as she got to crush the head of the snake.

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    Why I don’t celebrity worship, because not only meeting one’s idols is a bad idea, but also the possibility of them betraying.

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    not gonna make me hate wonder woman because she is not of jewish origin, but greek. the pantheon of gods in her mythos has nothing to at all in common with judaism

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    There’s a scene in one of the DC movies where a german sniper is hiding ontop of a church in a french village

    Ever the pillar of restraint and decorum, Wonder Woman takes down the entire fucking church to kill this one soldier.

    It’s a scene so over the top with needless destruction of a beautiful historical landmark, and you wonder what the filmmakers were trying to say with it.

    Edit: https://youtu.be/BWuafJtMrBE&t=195

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      This is pretty silly. Superhero movies constantly feature superheroes and supervillains causing mass property damage. Superman will be thrown through buildings. Cars will be used as throwing weapons, etc.

      It’s a deliberate cinematic choice. Superheroes just flying in the sky punching each other doesn’t convey the power involved in these characters. No, if you want to portray superheroes in a way that actually feels real to people, you need to show them interacting with our ordinary world. You show them treating things we experience as solid, indestructible, and immobile as mere tissue paper.

      This is just “show, don’t tell.” Sure, you could have some character verbally explain that “Superman has the strength of a million men!”, but if all you saw was Superman fighting in a cloud or an empty field, that wouldn’t really mean much. You can’t feel it. Watch Superman casually pick up a skyscraper, and suddenly your mind can actually grasp the scale of his power.

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        I hear you whilst defending superman in the sense that, he’s either chucked through a populated building against his will to highlight the monstrosity of his assailants, or he chucks buildings with the implication that they’re empty.

        In this WW scene, it’s shown to be a populated church. It just rings odd for me w.r.t to these unwritten rules of hollywood destruction that Im hyperfixated on

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          Populated by a soldier, in a war zone. This wasn’t a puppy and kitten caretaker nunnery on cute orphans visiting day.

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            she’s an immortal goddess, who shouldn’t relish in the destruction of mortals who were handed a gun at a young age and pushed to a front line for a creed they likely don’t give two actual shits about

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              she’s an immortal goddess

              Something she didn’t know at the time. Also, rather a lot of her training was in how to wage war.

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          Christopher Reeves’s Superman was quite upstanding tbh.

          Also the Actor was quite upstanding on it’s own right, he did a lot of activism for my country (chile) to be free, he fought against Pinochet in multiple occasions, like when the regime death threatened the actors guild, he came here so all the worlds eyes would point here and shield them, and he also gave his endorsement to the Chilean democratic opposition who ended up defeating Pinochet and bringing democracy back.

          In a sence, Superman defeated Pinochet and brought democracy back to chile.

          He was awarded the highest honour the Chilean govt can award a few years before his death.

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      I watched it just now and it’s just generic action movie slop? Do you get your panties in a twist when they destroy NYC landmarks in Avengers movies? It was just Nazis shooting at the good guys and them beating them in a fight.

      This is so funny and emblematic of the way you people think. In this dumb movie, they are being shot at, and you wanted the character to not fight back because she needs to preserve the architecture? In the exact same way, you think real Jewish people should lay down and die if Palestinians get mad at them. Stunning

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      I mean, the easy answer is all Hollywood action movies contain gratuitous destruction for the sake of visual interest.

      It was honestly my first thought as a kid: “Oh my god! That guy’s food stall was completely destroyed by that car! What will he do now? Is there anyone he can call to get it replaced?”

      The simpler answer is to accept cinema violence is a childish thoughtless moment anyway, and we shouldn’t compare it too much to real life. But in Gadot’s case, I suppose gratuitous destruction fits very much with her home country’s philosophy.

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        “Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.”

        But as I’m learning lately as I get settled in on Lemmy, some people here will take any opportunity to stretch things to their soapbox.

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        I think that’s the one thing they got right unfortunately, in real life armies (usually) don’t risk soldiers trying to locate and kill a sniper, they just use things like artillery, missiles, or tanks.

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          If you enable the subtitles, it says Flemish.

          Took another listen:

          “Hebde da gezien”

          “Wa is er gebeurd?”

          “Hebde da gezien, wa zij gedaan heeft?”

          It’s perfect dialect, which surprises me, but after this it seems to devolve into gibberish. I can’t make too much out of it, besides French being thrown in, which for our country is, again, spot on, since we are divided bilingually.

          “Veld” also means “field”. it’s such a generic name to give a town, but plausible.

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      Hollywood is fully integrated into the military-industrial complex. Inflicting disproportional damage on the population of whoever the enemy is is how The Great US Empire wages war. So that is what the population at home is meant to support. So that is what is shown to the young, easy to influence generations.

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        Indeed, Hollywood make the directors of the “Wochenschau” (june 1940 to March 1945) look like kindergartners and they learned from them too.

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        i mean they are the copaganda/militaryganda arm of the MIC. Transformers is pretty much all militaryganda and very little actual robots action.

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        I know. It is indeed a wonder when a film like Parasite slips under their radar, and they suddenly have to scramble to make sure the director doesn’t get too direct with their messaging in their next film

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          They make one movie with easy to digest anti-elite digest themes for every dozen that promotes competition between the working class, has libertarian undertones, or otherwise reinforces the status quo. How many Hollywood heroes promote the status quo vs challenge the status quo?

          Also, Parasite is a South Korean movie, which makes it even weird. SK is way deeper in late stage capitalism than the US if you can believe it. When Samsung alone accounts for 23% of their gdp, something’s wrong.

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      One should not ever wonder what the writers of Wonder Woman movies were thinking.

      If that one is what bothering you, consider yourself lucky and move on.

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        Then put a whole battalion up there or something, make it clear that she cleared out a whole sniper nest, not just one guy

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          I doubt much more thought was put into this other than “hey, you know what would look cool?”

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          They already had that scene three minutes earlier into the movie, and unfortunately execs think that if you repeat something then you lose interest from your audience and thus can lose shekels.

          Curiously enough, “repeating plot points and previous information that can be inferred without being told” is exempted from this issue, so there we go, characters re-explaining obvious plot points at every turn.

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            I was just thinking about that–I think I might. I am very pretty and I have a few suitors who are wealthy and successful, or I could go the sperm transplant route if none of them step up. I have a lot of money and went to top universities in the US, so I probably should procreate. I would be a really good mom and I’d have a lot of support. I’m gonna wait until I’m 35 to decide. I just have to make sure I don’t pass down issues around substances and I think I would raise some brilliant kids.

            Is this the level of discourse accepted on this site?

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        I’m not a man and I’m not threatening anyone lmao I’m just saying you can’t hide behind “they’re just 13” or whatever age if they’re throwing rocks at your head. I don’t think you’d react well to someone to a gang of kids throwing rocks at your head either.

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          Are you justifying IDF soldiers opening fire on children throwing rocks at them? It sure sounds like that’s what you’re doing.

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            If a “child” (teen) threw a rock at me with sufficient force to cause a traumatic brain injury then I would shoot them with a gun. I don’t see why you guys see that at a gotcha. If someone attacks you you can shoot them back, isn’t that common sense?

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              So in your opinion, this is most likely justified. The boy in the picture is fifteen, so he qualifies as a valid target to you. A rock could bounce off the tank and hit an infantryman in the head. The boy was killed, by the way, his name was Faris Odeh. I guess you also think this is justified. How about this? And this?

              You’re referring to anyone above the age of twelve as a “child” in quotation and deserving to be murdered by you if they throw a rock in your direction. You’re perverse, despicable and beyond redemption if you ever make good on your threats. I truly hope no parent will suffer losing their child because of someone like you.

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                I’m not threatening anyone. I don’t think it makes sense to use lethal force in your very specific example because that is a tank. If he were throwing it at a person, then hell yeah let loose the hounds of war, that’s deadly force

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                  Again; you’re convinced that you’re entitled to murder a minor because he/she is throwing rocks at you. Glad we cleared that up. Now, would these universal rules of yours apply regardless of skin colour, gender, faith or cultural background?

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                So in your opinion, this is most likely justified.

                In their opinion, killing Palestinians is always justified.

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          Well if I was invading and pillaging their home, I would kinda understand, at least enough to not fucking kill them.

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          No, you don’t get paid. Big yahu pays his chatgpt subscription so you can exist. It’s a different thing.

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            I have yet to benefit in any way from Netanyahu. Nobody has recruited me to vouch for Israel online. I get my money from my savings and my parents and it’s only like 70K a year right now so I’m poor and sensitive about it so don’t be mean

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      One comment you talk openly about being a Zionist, the next you mention how you would kill a child at the slightest provocation. It almost feels like both comments are related somehow.

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        Hmm it seems like I am proudly a non-Jewish Zionist who appreciates our Israeli allies and I also would not lay down and die happily if I was being attacked, like you expect Israel to do.

        So you are saying that your throwing arm is weak? Because if I threw a big ass rock and hit someone in the head they would probably die. You are claiming that’s not an enemy combatant? Or you are saying you cant throw a rock? Both are interesting claims.

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          If you are in someone’s house against their will and a kid who lives there throws a rock at you, shooting them just makes it trespassing and murder.

          Throwing arms at a kid is indeed weak, no matter the reason.

          What a fucking joke. “I am a proud supporter of genocide”. No one gives a fuck what your religion is or what false and disgusting justification you have. Vile.

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            It is very easy to use strong words like genocide. And you’re a rapist! See how that works?

            Inside Israel people have a huge problem with the settlers, just like here normal people have problems with guys who rant outside of planned parenthood. They’re extremists. Most people aren’t. I wonder if you have even thought of a solution? Mine would be to leave the existing borders, curtail settlers, and stop Hamas terrorists from bombing Israel every day. Most people are civilians and they would be dead without the Iron Dome.

            You have no idea what’s going on or how you could arrange it differently. You just like screaming genocide with spittle flying out of your mouth. Vile.

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              You are the extremist. Commiting genocide and applauding it is extreme. Yes, it is a genocide, no matter how much you block your ears.

              Prominent organizations that formally recognize Israel’s actions as a genocide include the United Nations, the international Court of Justice, the International Association of Genocide Scholars, Amnesty International, Doctors Without Borders, and the Lemkin Institute for Genocide Prevention.

              Wow, even people inside Israel are against the settlements?!?!? Do you think that’s news to anyone? I expect at least some in the country to have retained their sanity. The rest who aren’t against it, who participate in it and who defend it are still disgusting immoral blood thirsty rabid crazies.

              I’m not sure what point you’re trying to make, everything you say sounds incredibly hollow. Like a propoganda puppet spouting his little script. You have been indoctrinated, I hope for your sake you haven’t embarrassed yourself in real life. If you find yourself losing friends and people pulling away, it probably has to do with you advocating child murder. To anyone that even has an ounce or morality and common sense, you come off as a lunatic saying shit like this.

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                Ohh the same MSF I won’t volunteer with because they were aware of and failed to disclose Hamas tunnels under their hospitals? Paragons of virtue.

                I’m okay in the friends department. If Canada was bombing me daily I’d probably be okay with us whooping their asses.

                People like you don’t actually care about anything, you just want to be on a high horse. And right now it’s hot to hate on Israel and yell Free Palestine. Average people are tired of your ilk.

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              I don’t see why this guy is getting downvoted. He supports the only thing any centrist democrat has ever wanted, and this is .world

              He’s agreeing with every last biden/harris supporter on their only issue.

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    Enemy combatant status is not defined by age or organisation association, but skin color…

    /S